Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

id say from februaruy 1st we will have 10pm curfew, thats what NYPHET will be happy with as its people in restauraunts who dont behave same way as people on a big sesh. so they will be happy enough to bring that in but id say everything else in hospitality offical rules will stay the same. cant see nightclubs open til mid june. they will be on about saving summer, unfortunatley we could see the nightclubs shut in late october and 10pm curfew again next winter. that would suit the medics really well, no late night A and E incidents, drunken violence after nightclubs etc. You get the feeling medics would be happy to see an 11pm curfew end of story for all hospitality in ireland. They believe people should just sit at a table drink 2 or 3 glasses of wine or 2 or 3 bottles of beer and head home, or go for dinner and glass of wine and home by 11pm. they seem to not be bothered as much with younger people having parties in houses where they can drink bottles of wine and vodka and take ecstasy and coke all night, seem happier with that than having it happen in a nightclub. I would say the likes of Galway Race week really drives them mad, where you have all ages acting like teenagers, 17-50 year olds!

they can think what they like but nothing bar an unrestricted full opening is justified.

Anyway RTE have asked the HSE for a breakdown of the numbers of who is in hospital with covid and who is in hospital because of covid.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0112/1273204-hse-hospitals-covid/

The cat will be out of the bag I'm sure as I've always been convinced the numbers were inaccurate - in fact a sham to perpetuate the whole hysteria and rule by decree that we have endured.

This could be a government ploy to cut the legs off NPHET scaremongering

Interesting question - did NPHET have this info all the time and refused to release it?

you nailed it. I have a firm belief your analysis is correct . there is control of information to control the message and process.

if it was clear that most of those hospital cases and ICU cases would be there anyway this would have ended in the summer of 2020.

That's correct, employers can't ask about your vaccination status barring a change in legislation happening.

People can sue the manufacturers to their hearts content as part of the FDA full approval process and the EMA Conditional Marketing Authority (it's literally there on the site describing what CMA is), not sure why people keep pushing this as a point.

did you link the wrong post? - i didn't mention suing anybody

but in reply - this is the response in the European parliament - the answer is probably not to suing pharma.

question

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2020-004950_EN.html

Answer

As defined by the Product Liability Directive(1), any defect will need to be established before the competent court with a proof of the damage, the defect and the causal relationship between defect and damage.

The Commission assumes that the second question refers to a situation where a company is not held liable due to a hidden defect.

Article 7 (e) of the Product Liability Directive provides that ‘the producer shall not be liable as a result of this directive if he proves: that the state of scientific and technical knowledge at the time when he put the product into circulation was not such as to enable the existence of the defect to be discovered’. If the company is not held liable, it will not be obliged to pay compensation.

The COVID-19 vaccines advance purchase agreements provide for Member States to indemnify the manufacturer for possible liabilities incurred only under specific conditions set out in the agreement. In all other conditions not defined in the agreements, Member States will not be obliged to indemnify the manufacturer.

more BS reporting and have myself to blame for looking at it 🙄

Massive boost If this was to happen but nope not happening

I dont take issue with the HSE sharing that with Nphet. Not sharing that on the official HSE website is my gripe. It seems that Nphet acts as a Politburo the same concerning government with 'asking' the CMO what they should do.

Positive news. Lets hope so.

'Prof Nolan said there ‘won’t be a sharp descent’ in cases after the peak, but a levelling off.' Where the hell would he get that calculation from given the sharp rise and fall in other countries including the UK now? Never mind, the man is not to be taken seriously. Too bad it continues to hit the news..

It could affect the worry index. The deliberate obfuscation of this info by Holohan with his 5% nonsense took some neck which is no surprise from him. Of course very little blowback from our media.

It is not his job or at least it shouldn't be his job to try and frighten the nation by inventing bullsh!t stats.

Looks like case numbers have peaked, as test positivity rates are coming down.

This is the one where Government did nothing, just stood off and let nature take its course. The spike curve will look very similar to last year's, when they locked us down.

It's almost as if Restrictions don't actually do anything....

Anecdotally, I have heard of quite a few people getting the **** kicked out of them with the booster while the first two shots were relatively mild.

This may shock a lot of posters on here and that absolute turnip Styo Speedman on Twitter but, here is the fundamental truth...

We're not God! We're human beings! We cannot stop the impossible so stop trying!

They did the 5pm closure after they opened up too soon in summer/autumn. A 180 degree turnaround in december. But that was during Delta. Hospital numbers still going down there despite Omicron taking over. There are a lot of people now demanding the 5pm closure to be scrapped.

The more Omicron data comes out the better it looks.

It is milder and that is not simply because of immunity and vaccinations like some continue to insist upon.

How long can health officials hold on to the old narrative? It is tipping on all fronts outside their domain and even inside..

I get it. Same reason I took the "first" vaccine myself. Hopefully the States will be better craic than here!

Michael Martin is apparently on the Late Late tomorrow to give a coronavirus update.

There's a small possibility that he could be aiming to soften the country up for an actual relaxation of restrictions. By God I hope that's the case.