Mandatory vaccination in Ireland

Probably illegal in Ireland to do that but as you're at it I presume you think obese people should be charged for related hospital treatment as well as smokers?

Broke your leg playing football? Well you'll be billed for that too.

Is there likely to be a pandemic of that, which overloads the health service. Irrelevant.

Settle down Robocop, it's not going to happen.

All principles are absolute until they're tested.

I see no point in mandatory vaccination, the facts for and against have been shown, let people decide the risks. The fact it still spreads after being vaccinated should worry those unvaccinated more than anyone else.

About half the population don't have any form of health insurance.

And we're talking about lemme who need hospital treatment here. Thankfully we don't turn people away those who need such treatment despite the wishes of some on here.

I might be alone in thinking this but i dont think we should be calling these shots vaccinations.

They should be known as temporary pre-exposure preventative therapeutics or something like that.

Being called an anti-vaxer to me means that you are happy to take your chances with diseases that have successfully been all but eradicated by vaccine like Polio, measels etc etc.

If these shots were as successful at wiping out covid 19 as those vaccinations then I could accept the need for certain sections of society having to get them, but they clearly dont contain the spread while they clearly albeit temporarily reduce the effect of the virus.

Have health insurance premiums increased for unvaccinated people?

They did at Delta airlines.

We have 92% of people over the age of 12 vaccinated at this point. That fact that mandatory vaccination is even being discussed with such a high uptake already is troubling.

I would want to know about all the different kinds of people who are not vaccinated and their reasons before deciding on some kind of punishment or method of coercion designed to basically force them to be vaccinated.

Unless, what's really going to happen is that the need for boosters is going to be far more frequent than we are imagining and a lot of people are going to draw the line at, for example, quarterly boosters and uptake will wane.

In terms of being principled I would say you have two pretty obvious ends of the spectrum here when it comes to covid vaccines. At one end you've got the people who think that nobody should ever get them ever. At the other end you've got people who think we should forcibly inject a vaccine into the arm of anyone who refuses.

Most normal people will be somewhere in the middle. Probably in the range of "it's OK for people to make their own decisions" and "people should be encouraged to take a vaccine but not coerced and certainly not forced".

What troubles me is that we never really had a period during this where people were incentivized to get a vaccine. Before the vaccines had even been properly rolled out people were talking about how we might "convince" people who would refuse them.

I booked my appointment to get vaccinated on the same day that my age group was allowed to book. Yet before I had even booked I had work colleagues in calls and emails going on about how people who won't vaccinate shouldn't be allowed to work or go to the supermarket or use public transport or use healthcare and welfare services. I couldn't even book an appointment to get a vaccine yet and people were already fantasizing about how "anti-vaxxers" should be treated. It's disturbing.

Talking about vaccine mandates when we probably only have about 300k people across the entire country unvaccinated right now is a bit troubling to be honest. Feels a bit like a message to people who already have two or three doses to let them know that now they are locked in they better keep getting the boosters or else.