Any thoughts on this given the large uptake of vaccination for Covid in Ireland?
They did at Delta airlines.
No, we aren’t living in a hitler state just yet.
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Is this for a Covid related illness - covid pneumonia or covid kidney disease/liver. It is an interesting concept to get people to think about their own personal responsibility to health in general. Not overly keen on mandatory covid vaccination, speaking as someone who has has had jabs, plus booster.
Have health insurance premiums increased for unvaccinated people?
Unfathomable that you think underhanded emotional-blackmail tactics like this still work. The world has moved on and you will have to move on too.
So at what age in your life did you stop caring about the safety and care of those about you?
Who I am kidding. You can’t answer that question.
Hold on a sec. The issue is with obese people taking up hospital beds where there may not be enough available. Do you think they should have to pay for treatment due to their lifestyle choices? Speak plainly.
Also, in terms of taxation: will people like myself that are vax-free be returned our tax money? After all, we’re paying for other people’s pharmaceutical products that we ourselves don’t want or need? Didn’t think so.
I might be alone in thinking this but i dont think we should be calling these shots vaccinations.
They should be known as temporary pre-exposure preventative therapeutics or something like that.
Being called an anti-vaxer to me means that you are happy to take your chances with diseases that have successfully been all but eradicated by vaccine like Polio, measels etc etc.
If these shots were as successful at wiping out covid 19 as those vaccinations then I could accept the need for certain sections of society having to get them, but they clearly dont contain the spread while they clearly albeit temporarily reduce the effect of the virus.
Covid isn't causing the economy to shut down, that's a political decision. We've had rammed hospitals and massively busy ICUs every winter for decades. People continuously forget that conveniently enough.
About half the population don't have any form of health insurance.
And we're talking about lemme who need hospital treatment here. Thankfully we don't turn people away those who need such treatment despite the wishes of some on here.
If flu was causing whole economies to get shut down then I would say yes.
Why should it worry anyone? It's a threat to almost no-one.
I thought we were charged for everything already. Is that not why we have insurance.
Also if someone has issues like these they already may not get priority on waiting lists and indeed often required to lose weight or such before being considered for treatment. No matter what age if someone is less viable they will be filtered. That is the reality of finite resources.
I see no point in mandatory vaccination, the facts for and against have been shown, let people decide the risks. The fact it still spreads after being vaccinated should worry those unvaccinated more than anyone else.
What about people who wind up in ICU every year with flu and no jab. Presume they should be charged too yeah?
Breaking a leg as a result of a choice would fall into your view of the world, unless you are trying to claim that ending up in ICU with Covid is a choice?
The fact you consider it "proper order" to mandate it in any setting shows how far from humanity you have fallen.
So?
This by a billion. Sadly the nutcase anti-sciencers are quick to jump on the ”Ah ME HoOmman roightz” with their heads stuck up their vaccum cleaner without realising that the paper will likely show justification for not introducing mandatory vaxs.
Although I suspect it made be made mandatory in healthcare settings and proper order.
Obesity is not a highly contagious virus for which ICU occupation is an example of the pareto principle. In the case of smokers the cost is already priced into how much they pay for tobacco.
Breaking a leg is not usually a voluntary thing.
All principles are absolute until they're tested.
I’d agree that it won’t be introduced as policy but I feel covid certs at least for the start of summer may be used so essentially if you want to do anything social you’ll need a vaccine. Mandatory in all but name but I hope I’m wrong and it doesn’t happen like that. I think with our high uptake on vaccination their should be no need. Booster at winter time yes I’ve no problem with that and I think there will be a big uptake in it Irish people in general aren’t anti vaccination.
Vaccination for travel well that’s up to other countries and I will have no bother getting vaccinated to go on holidays if that’s what other countries require.
Settle down Robocop, it's not going to happen.
Many of these self-described left-wingers will be in favour of all sorts of measures like the one you describe, sooner or later.
Is there likely to be a pandemic of that, which overloads the health service. Irrelevant.
I'm not against it in principle, but right now with this virus it's not warranted. These vaccines do not seem to slow down transmission much and ICU is pretty stable. If another virus comes along much worse than covid, and the same or worse level of anti vax stupidity remains, at a certain point it becomes necessary to save lives.
Probably illegal in Ireland to do that but as you're at it I presume you think obese people should be charged for related hospital treatment as well as smokers?
Broke your leg playing football? Well you'll be billed for that too.
I am surprised by the situation how people are afraid of compulsory vaccination. I think that everything is not so scary as many people think.
Imagine a woman who has a baby which is disabled, despite being advised of the issue before birth and offered an abortion.
Should she be billed for the child's medical care?
That's not the case either though. If vaccination uptake was low and Delta remained dominant there would have absolutely been justification for it.
Bull-headed refusal to even discuss a measure is pure ignorance. A wilful desire to put emotion above facts.
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