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Anyone thinking of emigrating?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    One thing to look out for abroad is high Property Tax compared to ours. Even in the North.

    Property taxes in Texas are the seventh-highest in the U.S., as the average effective property tax rate in the Lone Star State is 1.69%. Compare that to the national average, which currently stands at 1.07%. The typical Texas homeowner pays $3,390 annually in property taxes.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yup, hence why I'd be planning to rent medium term.

    The high property taxes work to keep prices down though. That $3390 would be the equivalent of an extra 100k on a mortgage. Which is a lot but then the prices are lower to begin with partly because of the property tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    By all means if you can see a better life somewhere else then of course you owe it to yourself to emigrate and make the best of life, I've no problem at all with people who do that and more power to them if they can get a visa, but it's the griping and whinging that gets to me, people blaming the government for their own bad decisions



  • Posts: 471 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sure the government are perfect in everything they do! Houses in my area were 130,000 during the recession, there now selling for 240,000.

    A young person on 50K a year can't get a mortgage due to the 3.5 rule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭HBC08


    A lot of people see the term "right wing" being thrown around on twitter at racists,trump supporters,anti gay etc.

    They haven't a notion what it actually means.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Will they be able to get a mortgage in New York or Sydney?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭techman1


    Thats the funny thing , all these people complaining that Ireland is a shithole with feral kids on the luas etc etc , keep voting for all these left wing parties that are never going to tackle this. Then the supposedly centrist parties like FG and FF have also moved to the left. The young are sick of Ireland now because our government has taken the most extreme position as regards Covid restrictions and now we are 2 years in they see no end to it. But these are classic left wing policies of "Big government" and "Central control", nightclubs must close, pubs must finish up at 8pm, etc etc



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How much of there has there been on this thread?

    I criticise the government for the enabling of a non-contributing former working class seemingly having the right to the same standard of living as a couple who work full time. How many usually vote in an election, 2 million? So maybe I'm 0.00005% responsible for that.

    I criticise the government for prioritising new arrivals for accommodation. Again, maybe that's 0.00005% my fault.

    I criticise the government for spending massive, massive amount on health for no return.

    etc.

    Call it moaning and whinging if you like but it's mostly not stuff that I can effect massive change on. I've made some really **** decisions in my life, no doubting that, but me realising that there are better opportunities elsewhere isn't moaning and whinging.

    EDIT: Just to maybe round off the post a bit. :P There are people who'll never do anything to try and improve themselves or their situation, for sure. But they exist everywhere. Seeing actual issues first and second hand is a bit different though. Again I'll use my sister as an example, hitting 30, all her mates are now realising, ****, time to settle down if I want kids. Her friends from school got pregnant in their teens (or early 20s while doing FAS courses) and are happy out, never worked, never will work. One of them is considering having another one, financial considerations don't need to be taken into account. Her friends from college got qualified, worked their absolute arses off, got fucked with massively reduced pay when they graduated post-recession and are just about now getting on the property ladder. Even on their excellent salaries they're having to borrow for a deposit for the most part so that's another couple of years of not being able to afford a kid. Then when the kid does come along they'll be paying extortionate creche fees while the ones who aren't working will get free creche places.

    Those are the kind of issues I see among my peer group and it's **** infuriating. I'm fine, it's just me and the dog and other than starting a menagerie that's all the responsibility I see me having any time soon. So I'm lucky in comparison to some. But seeing people who worked their absolute arse off (and btw my parents both came from incredibly rough and poor backgrounds) like my sister and seeing her get the square root of **** all as reward, well it's just bloody wrong. These are people who made all the "right" decisions btw, I think a lot of them are right to feel sleighted.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's funny that you make a comparison between Dundalk and New York. 😂🤣😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    And Glenamaddy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I emigrated about 20 years ago (I'm not sure if that's the correct term though as it was more to do with having an adventure and a bit of craic than anything else) it was near the height of the boom so there were loads of opportunities here but I just fancied something different.I was 24 and single so I could just head off anywhere.I had a great time,made lots of friends,decent cash and came back after 10 years.

    If I was the same age now I'd be gone again.It could be that I'm a grumpy old man now in my 40s but it really is no country now for a young person,it's so hard to get ahead and then you see people contributing nothing but policies in place to make sure they have the same standard of living with none of the work or responsibility.All the usual (valid gripes) covered in this thread and others,no point rehashing them.

    Anybody thinking SF are the answer are in for a big land aswell.



  • Posts: 471 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Who mentioned anything about Sydney or New York 🤣

    To even get to the states you need to sponsored by a company, Australia not easy to get into now either.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't disagree with too much there. I remember maybe 10 years ago on this very site there was a thread about an article about SVP. In it the SVP guy addressed the suggestion that if someone has a couple of 50 inch TVs (worth a few quid back then) and loads of designer gear then maybe they should be told to sort something out themselves then SVP would help if still needed. He reckoned that big TVs are of a big cultural value in the typical communities they were doing their work.

    The thoughts of Sinn Fein getting in, Christ. The useless **** we have in now have created the current mess by trying to cover off SF getting support by pandering to the same arseholes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's ways around it (perfectly legally) in some cases. I've got a couple of leads (I won't be sharing, yes I'm a prick :D) on visa-sponsored jobs with no qualifications and full training provided. $25 an hour plus OT. I know that sounds too good to be true and goes against the point of the visa but they exist. Then there are some that are more "professional" in my area that are $80k+. I'll be making a fact finding trip to a couple of states later this year to see if in-person leads can be found and just to scope a few areas out.

    Chances are though I'll probably just **** off to Europe part time for a couple of years (maintain residency and employment here) and figure out something else. I have no intention of being here past the summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Are you going to go ahead and complete the rest of the top 10 most expensive cities in the world and compare them to Louth?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    At 3.5 they can get a mortgage for 175k if they meet the criteria, on daft now there's 74 properties in clare for under 175k and 270 properties in limerick under 175k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I worked for a company providing visas to the States and yes you're correct,there are ways and means outside of the traditional sponsored route to get a visa.At least there were,I left that business in 2016 and things changed a bit under Trump re visas,not sure the ins and outs of it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The title of the thread probably can't be amended. Could the OP give a list of where they mean by the question (Anyone thinking of emigrating?)



  • Posts: 471 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Limerick and Clare fantastic, what about places that actually matter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭yer man!


    I’m abroad now and own a house in Ireland. Making plans to move back this year to live in it but Jesus the negativity across Boards and Reddit and even the news really makes me consider otherwise.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah I was disappointed to find that despite my company having a presence in the states it seems the only long-term visa for internal company transfers applies to executive and upper management roles which isn't the path I'm on. There's a semi-loophole where if you do get sponsored to get in then you can work for a different company once they'll do the paperwork. Seems like a lot of companies will hire people already there on such a visa but have much less interest in doing the legwork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    You're in the Social and Fun section here, it's all very jolly.



  • Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Me too. Good Government, functioning society, variety here. Why would I inflict Ireland upon myself. There is still a pull but every logical bone in my body says don't do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Yes,if you look at it from the point of view of the company in the States it makes sense.You have a role and presumably a good few candidates to fill it,do you pick the local candidate or the Irish one with a load of associated paperwork?

    Even still,plenty of Irish managed to get grad visas,intern visas etc.

    I can't remember the exact details but there was a little known visa at the time (may have been training visa?) Whereby you didn't need a qualification, but a couple of years experience in your field and applied to hospitality and other sectors.I actually never completed one of these for clients but I always thought it would be a good one and open to a bit of wangling if you had some contacts in the States.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I already owned a house then I'd be more likely to hang about. The security would be nice.

    I dunno man, the last 2 years have just been so constantly bloody miserable here. Last year while we were doing **** all I sat and watched 135k people in Indianapolis cheer some guys vroom vrooming around. Switch around and see crowds at F1 across Europe. The fact that so much of our "culture" revolves around drinking (and I don't drink anyway) was obvious before but after the last 2 years it's even clearer. I look at Europe and America and see cities nicer and cheaper than Dublin with so much more to do. Hilarious seeing bands selling tickets in Dublin for twice the price of elsewhere. Any time I look into hobbies there's roadblocks to them in Ireland. Want a nice car? Better make a **** ridiculous amount of money. Want a powerful car? Good luck. Want a motorbike? **** you you can't be trusted and have to dick about for 2 years. The low population also just means that a lot of stuff that are hobbies even in the UK never reached critical mass over here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭LapsypaCork


    I encouraged both of my children to travel and qualify in a career they can use abroad. Eldest left 3 years ago to Australia and in the last stages of becoming a permanent resident, she works in health care and although works just as hard as she did here, has a much better lifestyle, everything is very affordable and she’s way happier, second is heading away also when college is finished next year. I’m in my mid 50’s, both of us work our asses off and some weeks have little left from our wages if we need to go to a doctor, buy medication etc. Neither of us live extravagant lifestyles but never seem to see any return for our taxes and I wouldn’t like my children to spend their adulthood like this especially if they want to buy a house and have a family.

    OP, if it’s on your mind, go for it. Pick 3 places to narrow it down, do your research, always lots of forums online offering help too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3




  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh absolutely I can't blame companies for taking the option of someone who's already there in person. It's just a funny loophole in that it's a non-residency visa yet it's not technically tied to the job that sponsored the person in the first place.

    Funny enough any time I go off foreign I seem to have no problem getting dates. Maybe I'll see if someone wants a baby. 😂



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  • Posts: 257 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you have family members living in the US they can fulfil the sponsor route as well, providing they are willing.



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