Irish language gets full EU status today

Seems like I was right. If you go back to early in this thread you were leading everyone to believe that the Irish language was sorted by consensus. It took 7 pages before we discover that what you mean is you don’t have the first clue what impact this fudge would have on Irish signage, whenever, if ever, it is implemented.

so we are agreed that the is no consensus on whether Irish language signage will be going up. phew!

Firstly Donald, I am not a big fan of funding be pumped into Ulster Scots language. Our communities are not symmetrical. I would suggest other aspects of Ulster Scots culture are much more important to our community like marching bands, bagpipes, drumming, Scottish dancing (and indeed to a smaller degree Irish dancing), our friendships with Scottish people, etc.

just on a side note, you will be hearing much more reference to ulster-British culture.

I would suggest that Ulster-Scots language is in use everyday by almost every person living here. Our English spake here is peppered with it, much more than I am aware of Irish words being used (except in the likes of place names).

the support I would like to see for ulster/Scots culture to compare with Irish language would be very practical ie support for music lessons, band uniforms and instruments and running costs, Hogmanay events and Burns nights, and indeed subsidy for ferry travel between ni and Scotland to ease travel costs. They are just some of the top of my head. Do that and I am sure most of my community would welcome similar support for Irish. As Francie says, no one should fear equality - and in this case equality will cost serious bucks for the Ulster Scots community to catch up on funding levels, not to mention the ulster British aspect developing. Maybe Europe would help 😳

No I would love to respond to you about the spelling of Irish but I would be risking giving people cause to report me and have me banned. There is no point in me reporting your scoff at ulster Scots as it will be seen as fine. Was there anything in NDNA about treating the two cultures the same on forms?

Having said that, I have some sympathy with your statement. I would hear similar said within my community and might have said the same myself until recently, but some people have a real interest in developing it.

I might surprise you, but I got challenged for saying I only know one person reared in the unionist community who has a big interest in developing Irish language, well that is one more than I know has a big interest in developing ulster-Scots language

I do though love the words peppered through our lingo and would hate to see them go. I am curious do you guys use many Ulster Scots words down south?

like would you know what I meant if I said that one particular poster has been doing a lot of blethering today?

Would you include the Gaeltacht areas for your dual language diktat? They might not be to happy with you, but sure you could relocate them to the islands

Francie you are looking at ulster-Scots through Irish eyes. To suggest that our cultural identity has just arrived is nonsense. The difference is it has been self sustaining and the community follow their interests instead of being directed by funding down narrow routes like language.

I would suggest the best bits of Irish cultural identity have also been self sustaining and I personally wouldn’t include language in that.

i guess most of you guys must be amazed by our decision making.

A majority on a council vote through a decision that only 15% are required to win a vote ie 1000 voters. 750 vote against and 150 vote for - the vote is carried.

Francie is not wrong about that. That’s what he means by a majority decision - over 15%.

only in nationalist controlled councils mind you. Gerrymandering 🙂