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Irish language gets full EU status today

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    As I understand it, Francie lives in Co Monaghan. It has the highest density of children attending a Gaelscoil (outside of Galway and Donegal, the two main Gaeltacht counties) so maybe it is no great surprise that he now hears children running around speaking Irish at GAA matches.

    http://www.gaeilge.imeasc.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMEASC-Heat-Map-of-in-IME-@-primary-Download-file.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭boardise


    I'm wondering what 'meaning' one should get from a county division being described as 'the fort' . There's really no meaning at all.

    What fort ? Where was it ? Who built it ? Was it big or small ? Is it still around ? etc. etc. 😃

    No one needs to know what ,if any, meaning a county has ( in any language) . It is known where it is ,people can find their way there. That's all that matters. 'An Dún' might as well mean 'the bucket' or 'the back axle ' or anything -it doesn't matter a damn. Surely a man of your intelligence can see this.



  • Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dún na nGall. The back axle of the foreigner. Jesus wept, aren't some people just cuckoo bananapants?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,694 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Well I am on your side in this in that I do see interest in knowing the meaning. This though is an excellent example to back up my point.

    let’s imagine it is in ni and the sign reads ‘welcome to Donegal’

    i am imagining that all proficient Irish speakers know what it means? The vast majority who are non Irish speakers have no clue what it means.

    now my Council is trying to tell me Donegal is English and they will create an equitable position by adding the correct Irish spelling. Still only the Irish speakers though could understand it. Would some posters not consider shifting their position and accepting that this is not dual language and certainly not equitable?

    my point is add Dún na nGall if they must and probably add Ulster Scots then as well for equity. But surely most of all, add the English the fort of the foreigners below the sign. That is a wonderful piece of info for locals and tourists alike. I have a love for and connection with Dún na nGall and I never knew what it meant.

    now this really would help beginners and instil interest in Irish history and both languages. To see signs like Donegal have the English on them will prompt most people’s curiosity to know more.

    why is this regarded as ridiculous and unreasonable by so many on here, and my republican Council?

    I can only see that this position is borne out of either insecurity or blind sectarian stubbornness - unless someone can give me a more realistic reason.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,694 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    What was it francie said “they are going up all accross the north without issue” (not verbatim)

    This weekends Belfast telegraph, and this just about my council https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/grinders-used-in-spate-of-attacks-on-dual-language-signage-41220971.html

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    But what do you want us to take from this DC? These people are knuckle draggers that would freak out if someone of a different ethnicity moved next door. They shouldn't be used as a barometer for cultural acceptance or otherwise. Next you'll be telling us the KKK don't like African Americans moving into the area so we can assume African Americans are bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,694 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    I told you what I wanted you to take from that tiny bit of evidence to add to all the rest ie francies claim that they are going up everywhere with controversy is at best I’ll-informed.

    but sure you twist away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    But it's pointless. These people will find someone the wrong skin color controversial and their disapproval shouldn't be treated as something normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,694 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    great To see the proposed ILA stalled again.

    I was told many times that it would be implemented last October whether unionists liked it or not. I did say which October.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,656 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    So the Tory's cannot be trusted by any Irish people, shafted Irish Unionists and shafted Irish Nationalists.



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