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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    You can probably buy old Chump University bachelors certificates online for cheap. You can’t find old Chump rump steaks online. That doesn’t mean the Chump brand is not bankable. Lawl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,136 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The Pelosi example? I must have missed the actual evidence because that is not it surely?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    So something that the party leadership is vocally against according to the article, and reading between the lines of the article sounds as if the local Democrats haven't done a particularly successful job of re mapping compared to Republican efforts in other states.


    Still bad obviously, not anywhere near the same scale though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,805 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Gerrymandering is the most undemocratic bit of democracy since some idiot said I’ve had an idea for a college system of votes to pick a president. It’s a scummy thing to do and is in general done by people clinging to power somewhere or to suppress people and their rights. It has an odd legitimacy in America like it’s an accepted part of how things should be done. How a country that likes to think it’s a great democracy can accept it is really just showing that they say democracy but really mean democracy that keeps out lot in charge.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    If Trump runs 2024. DeSantis will not beat Trump in Republican primary. Maybe Trump will select him as his vice president running mate? Maybe not. Trump may want a woman to attract Republican and Independent women.

    Doubtful that DeSantis will be able to use Covid prevention or mediation as a platform plank. He has been threatening school district administrators by saying he will withhold their pay if they mandate mask wearing in their Florida school districts. "The preponderance of evidence indicates that mask wearing reduces transmissibility" of Covid and its variations. DeSantis chooses politics over science for Florida's citizens.

    Ref: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,412 ✭✭✭✭briany


    "I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding. He spent $2 million in legal fees trying on to get away from this issue, and if it weren't an issue, why wouldn't he just solve it? I wish he would because if he doesn't, it's one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and in the history, period. You are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts."

    -Trump on his suspicions about Obama's nationality.

    It's really amazing some of the lies Trump has told down the years that not only were they completely demonstrable ones, but Trump was just able to drop them and never say a word about them again when something else came along. But I suppose that's what happens when you tell so many whoppers. No one whopper tends to have as much of an impact.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Your claim obviously ignores Trump's January 6 rally. Followed by the storming of Congress while in session by Trump's supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭phater phagan


    Many of the Trumpists know that he has shown them a roadmap of how the party can stay in power, even though it's in the minority. They know that the demographics are against them, but he has has gotten away with everything, and they know if they follow the same path, they as well, will also get away with it. It is happening in every state, and even in the US congress.

    Trumpism is becoming a greater growth, even without him. If the Republicans take over the House and the Senate and take over the government, then help us all. Canada will be our saviour in that case, because they will become the only the sensible government in North America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,192 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Think Nikki Haley would be forerunner if she doesn't end up going for the nominee herself. If she does, she'll tick a lot of boxes for them in terms of she's female, she's a Trump fan, can appeal to minorities and she has history both as a Governor and UN representative.

    I expect Mike Pence to try to make a primary run for the Presidential nomination as well but think he is too easy to negate with claims of lack of loyalty towards the base. But, curiously, if Trump is ruled out for some reason, Pence might appeal to Republicans looking to bring the party back towards the center even as DeSantis will be trying to stick to Trumps playbook.

    Expect Kemp and Abbott will probably also be in the mix and probably Chris Christie with a nonsensical attempt once again.

    I hope the eat themselves from within throughout the primary, but, if Trump is any way feasible for the actual election and has no health issues, the primary will be a non-contest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    I don't know how Pence could be considered a candidate to bring the party back to the centre. He's a hardcore evangelical tea party ballsack.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    If the Republican Trump voting block led to civil war should they violently dispute the 2024 election, this may push for CalExit. It's the only state that could realistically become a nation. Highly diverse economy. Heavy Pacific Rim trade. Largest combined seaport revenues. Largest agricultural state in US. One the the world's largest R&D tech centers (Silicon Valley, etc). About 5th in world GDP. 63.5% of Californians voted Biden 2020 (11,110,250 votes). Reuters/Ipsos poll published in January 2017 showed 32% of Californians supporting CalExit, up from 20% in 2014 (thanks to Trump). CalExit platform poorly developed and poorly funded. Would require a referendum with 55 percent vote to secede, plus US Congress favorable legislation, presidential signature, followed by 38 states to ratify. Add questionable secession rights since the Civil War. Stacked Republican Supreme Court would try to block it, as CalExit would probably throw the remaining 49 states into the worse depression in history. Today CalExit is a joke. But it's fun to fictionalize.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭phater phagan




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭francois


    More evidence of electoral fraud


    https://t.co/eKOE5juaRm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,884 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Well, seems like the rats that got involved with the SPAC are turning on it. The guy suing here deserves no sympathy, 'lay down with dogs get up with fleas' and all, but this I think is the first of many lawsuits that'll bring the SPAC down.


    Like all of #2xIMPOTUS's businesses, it ends up in a bonfire of lawsuits.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-spac-deal-fraud-lawsuit-shevland-9f7f811e-36a2-4a97-b37a-b1537063caac.html



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Unfortunately, Trumpification is seeping over the border into Canada. Especially in oil rich province of Alberta, which is essentially turning into a mirror of Texas.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    A judge has denied Fox News' motion to dismiss Dominion Voting's $1.6 billion lawsuit.

    Dominion's closely-watched defamation case will proceed toward trial. Dominion is expected to seek internal Fox communications and testimony from Fox higher-ups during discovery.


    Hope it bankrupts them.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Fox will tie this up. For years in layers of court actions and appeals. Ultimately, they will settle. Without claiming they were wrong.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Should Canada build a wall? And get Trump Corporation to pay for it?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,480 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    NYT Dec 17, 2021: "Omicron Threatens Red America...unvaccinated Americans — who are disproportionately Republican — are now in even more danger than a few weeks ago. Omicron seems to be qualitatively more contagious than any earlier variant." Will the Reds self destruct? Will Trump in 2024?

    Ref:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/17/briefing/omicron-spread-red-america.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Rick Perry, Trump’s Secretary of Energy, texted @MarkMeadows

    “Why can’t the states of GA, NC, PA and other R-controlled state houses declare this is BS (where conflicts and election not called that night) and just send their own electors to vote and have it go to the SCOTUS?”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    The term 'florida man' shouldn't become a term to pass this off, like lone wolf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,884 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,192 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Yes, but when she saw the lay of the land, she rowed back from that dramatically. Link

    Washington (CNN)Former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley on Monday said she would back her onetime boss, former President Donald Trump, if he decides to run for the Republican Party's presidential nomination again in 2024 and not mount a bid against him.


    "Yes," Haley, the former Republican governor of South Carolina, said in response to a question from The Associated Press during a news conference at South Carolina State University when asked if she would support another White House bid from Trump. Haley explained that she would not launch her own presidential campaign "if President Trump ran, and I would talk to him about it."

    And your first paragraph is why she'll probably be forgiven for her earlier comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,600 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Are you shocked? Apart from being actually from NY, he screams Florida Man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    I know it's a meme, but it shouldn't be used as an excuse for people doing stupid and dangerous ****. Ie oh he stormed the Capitol building and assaulted some police offices 'Oh Florida man, whataygonna do?' (Seinfeld bass sting plays)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,884 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Speaking of the #2xIMPOTUS, seems he threw American Jews (the ones that vote Democratic) under the anti-semitic bus in a recent interview


    Several doozys:

    Didn't like Netanyahu for congratulating Biden:

    “He was very early—like, earlier than most. I haven’t spoken to him since. **** him,”

    Tired Anti-semitic tropes; fwiw the Sulzberger's that run the NYT today, are Presbyterians:

    I grew up where my father was very close to many Jewish people because it was Brooklyn real estate, Brooklyn and Queens. Many Jewish friends. A great love of Israel, which has dissipated over the years for many people in the United States. I must be honest, it’s a dangerous thing that’s happening. I told Avi, I told others, people in this country that are Jewish no longer love Israel. I’ll tell you the evangelical Christians love Israel more than the Jews in this country. It used to be that Israel used to have absolute power over Congress. And today it’s the exact opposite. And I think Obama and Biden did that. And in the election, they still get a lot of votes from Jewish people, which tells you that the Jewish people, and I’ve said this for a long time—the Jewish people in the United States either don’t like Israel or don’t care about Israel. I mean you look at the New York Times—the New York Times hates Israel. Hates it. And they’re Jewish people that run the New York Times, the Sulzbergers. 


    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/12/donald-trump-shared-some-thoughts-about-netanyahu-israel-and-the-jews.html



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