Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

A vaccine will limit the spread in the early months, still about 50% reduction 3 months later. A negative antigen means you're not contagious when you take the test.

So for the vast majority of us who got our second dose over 3 months ago your statement is true

Ideally people should have a negative test and a vaccine so that the few breakthrough cases cause a mild cold

I'm heading to a couple of gigs this weekend. On Saturday night I was supposed to be staying at a hotel with a friend but he has pulled out at the last minute. He's double vaxxed and boosted but doesn't want to take the chance of going to a sold out gig and risk contracting it a few days before Christmas. He has a few vulnerable contacts that he would like to see over Christmas. Fair enough. I'm not vaxxed but recovered. I don't agree with the passes but thankfully they're accepting a negative LFT in the north. That's how it should be done. Driving up and back now.

From those stats it is impossible to work out the likelihood of being hospitalised due being unvaccinated as opposed to being vaccinated for October as they do not give the numbers, just the percentages and the percentages only add up to 65% for both.

What we do know is that from ICU figures for October 1st. it is 15 times more likely to require ICU treatment if you are unvaccinated, so I do not see how any point can be made on hospitalisations not being greatly skewed by those unvaccinated.

A child in my family has been sick with an ear infection since the weekend. She has a history of suffering from these, and has no flu/cold symptoms. She just has a very sore ear and a slight temperature.

Her mam rang the doctor, the doctor wouldn’t even entertain seeing the child without a negative PCR.

Mam assured the clinic that there were no flu symptoms and she just needed an antibiotic for the ear infection but the doctor wouldn’t budge.

The test unsurprisingly came back negative today, but because they wouldn’t let her book an appointment without a negative test, they now can’t fit the child in for an appointment until Tuesday…By which time she might have covid symptoms. So her appointment on Tuesday was only booked under the condition that ANOTHER negative PCR result is obtained before then.

She is now booked for another PCR test tomorrow.

How much are GP’s getting for referrals these days? I don’t think the test numbers would be so high if doctors were refusing to see patients for non respiratory issues without a negative test.

The poor child has missed school all week and is in agony with her ear, but obviously getting the referral fee was more important than seeing a sick child.

This system is farcical.

This must surely be having a knock on effect on A&E departments, parents with sick kids having no other option, even though they only really need to see a GP.

It was. I remember having Christmas party with my friends when a news broke out about very contagious variant spreading in UK and then we had a lockdown.

Sorry to hear about this, a sick child with an ear infection is no fun for anyone..

This is frightening though , so what if it was a suicidal person who rang their doctor with a covid symptom.. ? told to go away? or sent to A&E to sit there?

I already know of 1 suicide this week, where their appointment was pushed out..

What if that ear infection was to get worse ? or spread.. that can result in further infections/complications and more pain for the child?.. I know Im being overly dramatic .. but isnt that how they wants us live our lives..by being super duper overly cautious? Or is that only when it comes to covid?

When will it all end?

Yeah, that was the Kent variant, not the Delta variant.

Lockdown so we can avoid Lockdown.

All these people walking around living in fear, brainwashed, not to mention the curtain twitchers

I must be going around with my eyes closed

Seems to be a theme here

Lockdown to avoid lockdown

Avoid the doctors to keep the doctors open

Avoid hospital to keep the hospital open.

Avoid others to stay alive.