Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

That's not patronising, that's just somebody being a complete dick.

Plus if one of my friends or work colleagues (to use the examples in the ads) had the virus the rest of us wouldn't even be going out as we would most likely all be deemed close contacts... What an idiotic advert

Ironic that with more people there's less restrictions, as clearly more people in that scenario means an increased risk of someone actually transmitting Covid.

I'd understand it with U18's more so if it was going to have a massive difference on the level of transmission (I understand vaccines do reduce transmission somewhat).

But you're talking about a population who are very unlikely to become seriously ill themselves from it, so there really should be more of a choice in that age category, no real need to coerce them.

Slim chance the government are going to go against NPHETs advice

You want to close schools early where kids play with friends and believe if a kid doesn't take a vaccine they don't need then tough look about social activities.

You certainly have no kids or care about kids in general and I would be banned it I said what I would like to say.

I actually just heard that ridiculous RSVP ad on the radio there again and caught the website this time - https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/84a4f-risk-symptoms-venue-people/

The undertone of fearmongering under this supposedly sensible official advice is frankly disgusting. Basically trying to make people afraid of doing perfectly normal activities with friends and family.

There has been a definite ramp-up on these ads in the last week or so - probably explains why the media are pushing the agenda so heavily again (as we saw in the reports on the profits made from these ads by TV/radio stations).

I really want to understand what you think is the risk here.

The vast majority of adults - especially the relatively small cohort ACTUALLY vulnerable - have been double/triple vaccinated.

Who are you protecting with this approach? You said earlier about hospitals being overrun - from what? Mild case of the sniffles?

I think your issue is more with HSE capacity but as I said before, that's a long-standing problem and nothing to do with/long before Covid.

Not OP, but the vast majority of decision makers / advisors etc. in relation to COVID restrictions, being forced on the young today, are middle aged white men.. not sure how diverse our government is, but the only faces I see on a daily basis are the faces of boring middle aged white men.. who clearly are not interested in the damage they are doing to our younger generations..

I think we can leave the nonsense Twitter-baiting gender/race stuff out of it and just refer to them as overpaid, out-of-touch/insulated bureaucrats in fairness

There's plenty of poor quality (younger) female TDs in Government too. Gender doesn't indicate competence.

Middle aged is a stretch to call some of them too. Some of them are elderly.

It does have an impact though. Someone who owns their own house, stable employment that hasn't been affected is less hurt by their restrictions as they have been as much as a college student who works in a bar part time as an example.

I agree, perhaps the description was unnecessary, I did add my own work 'boring' to the OPs wording, also unnecessary .. oops

but I think possibly, what was implied is there is only one particular sector of this society who are making these restrictions and they are blissfully unaware of the restriction are effecting the people and the future generations- those people are middle aged, have bought houses- probably multiple, have had college education- and all the experiences that can goes with that, have partners living with them, have financial stability and security, and lets be real.. they have a very comfortable life to live ahead of them in their golden years...and so do their children.

For the rest of us, ALOT of us, and our children, our lives are being effected by these restriction, more than they will ever ever realize.. only yesterday I heard of a 38year old man who hanged himself at home in his mothers house... (he was living at home to save for a mortgage and had an appointment with HSE - which had been pushed out).

I think when people are angry at the government and NPHET and restrictions, perhaps the image that is conjured in someone's mind is that of ''The Fat Cat''

How can you mock someone for predicting there will be more restrictions at some point in the future? We have been at this for almost 2 years now and have had restrictions eased/worsened several times despite our high vaccination and at times low rates of covid

It's to stop the unvaccinated taking up hospital beds by not having them in places where transmission is high.

Vaccines are effectively keeping the R number down along with other restrictions, they're not perfect, but good as a range of measures (and transmission post vaccination drops significantly which is great as a lot of Irish have had the booster now).

The problem is that there’s still a massive stigma about not getting tested, theres people out there who’d considered you a granny killer for leaving the house with cold symptoms