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Mental health and CoVid-19

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,079 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I see what your intending to do but I won't bite, but just to clarify as you've clearly missed my point, Depressing as in your quite extraordinary sentiments towards elderly people, actually it's disturbing.

    Let's leave it at that

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭HalfAndHalf


    No, I don't think you understand what you are saying or what is being said back to you! Nobody said you are in immigrant, I said you are a guest of this country, you are not a Citizen and you do not have exactly the same rights as any Irish person as you point out yourself you can't vote in Government elections and if you break the law you can be deported. However you completely miss my point, which I am not surprised about. You are Dutch, you live in Ireland, base common decency and manners would dictate that you do not come onto an Irish forum and spout vitriol and hatred about said host country, or comments such as 'I couldn't care less if old Irish people die'.

    I would recommend not staying seeing as you clearly hate it here, as you say, you've the pick of another 26 countries to go and live in and moan about not being as good as the Netherlands!!

    You may have learned English but you clearly haven't learned to read properly, I didn't say I was Irish, I said I was an Irish citizen, this is a right granted to Foreign Birth's of Irish descent. I was born in England and reared there, my parents were Irish and so as myself and my Irish wife live here, I became an Irish citizen, I can't speak Gaeilge but then my wife only has a little and she was born and reared here. I'm sure you're fluent! LOL! All of this does however make me more Irish than yourself!

    Again with the Xenephobic rhetoric, this 'Brit' isn't trying to influence your decisions, as you say yourself about not caring less about the people of Ireland, I couldn't care any less about yourself. I'm just saying it's clear you hate it here and don't care for the people so perhaps you'd be happier moving on.

    I do find it laughably ironic though that someone whose parents were Irish who you term a Brit is giving out to a fellow EU citizen about their disgusting attitude towards the country and it's people!

    If it helps with the Brit bashing rhetoric, the wife and I moved back here as soon as we could after we found out 51% of the country were total morons!

    I feel sorry for you, you're obviously living in a seriously negative world right now, blasting your host country and it's people with bile isn't going to help you and it's becoming apparent that you're not going to help yourself, just moan you can't get someone else to help you on your terms.

    Good luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭machaseh


    Maybe in about a year or so yeah. Still not entirely sure about it.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,456 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A number of posts deleted. This is a serious thread for those seeking or providing support on mental health issues in a constructive manner. Please stick to the topic or do not post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    Great post Graces7, head up and keep going, we'll all get through this



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,456 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    More posts deleted

    If you wish to discuss masks use the dedicated thread, which is not this one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Totally scared here - not a virus but global digital humankind control. Going back to 90's in my memory is like travel to fairyland paradise. People will NEVER have a fraction of freedom we had then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    I'm late at replying, I apologize.

    No, I'm not American, I'm Italian and live in Italy. But I love Ireland and, like someone said, for a weird reason I have a passion for Boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,057 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Don't think I can take another lockdown

    Bloody have tickets to a concert in the UK in September and they will probably ban any foreign people entering the venues even fully vaccinated. What's the point heading over for the trip if the main reason is taken away



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    Luke O Neill now talking about post Covid ptsd. How about post Covid euphoria for a minute? I’m buying a new watch!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,057 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    And now this new 'MU Variant' is here and no doubt calls will start about delaying the reopening cause of it please god it doesn't happen

    Yep post covid hysteria will hit in a big way. Going to the UK in 2 weeks time for a concert and can't wait to for it. Getting back to the Airport and that pre flight pint will be like gold

    I wonder will people start panicking a bit when we do reopen as they will be have lingering thoughts of previous reopenings where we closed very shortly after. The media need to play there part in this regard and try be positive



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yup.

    I must go and buy a new coat to reflect the spirit in fashion!



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,456 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A number of posts deleted

    This thread is a resource for anyone who may be struggling with mental health issues surrounding the pandemic

    Take discussions of vaccines and the like to one of the many dedicated threads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,057 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The mental health effects of covid could take a long time to overcome and some Government members are to blame for 80% of it

    Constant doom and gloom, predicting this and that, not giving any hope etc

    Lockdown has shown how easy it is to implement. One day you're working the next closed in a flash

    The way the health service is, it's going to be manic esp in the mental health sector. The easy route of 'take these tablets and you'll be grand' will be rampant



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And national TV and radio too. Especially the more 'talk' centric stations and the ones with "Eireann" in their initials.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭Tork


    Boards and social media have a lot to answer for too. Some posters seem to have become addicted to trawling the interwebs in search of material that would confirm their worst fears. That HAS to have done damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    The uncertainty and fear being whipped up by the media and the government this week has pushed me back into a depressive slump that I fought hard to get out of. The fact that we’re even talking about continuing restrictions with our stellar vaccine uptake has me thinking that life will never return to normal in Ireland. It’s been almost 2 years since I’ve felt really happy and even if the promised restrictions are lifted next week masks will stay which still largely makes me want to avoid the activities I enjoy. As sad as it makes me, I’m starting to think seriously about emigration. Nothing is certain of course, but in Ireland I’m constantly missing the real normal that I loved and it’s not healthy to see it constantly out of reach.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    I am with you completely on this ShadowTech. Hell I'm now even regretting that I bothered getting vaccinated!! Whats the point really? This covid crap is hitting some people very hard but unfortunately we're "the minority". I have ASD and masks are the worst of the restrictions for me. Cannot stand them. So much so I've been avoiding most activities where they are needed. Unfortunately again most people seem ok with them..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    I’m really sorry, @yoyo . I feel much the same way about masks and about the vaccines. I thought that we had a social contract in place, that if we get our vaccines we’d get our lives back to normal. I think it’s impossible to pretend that’s ever going to happen now. It seems that the majority in Ireland are accepting of restrictions that cause me distress so I don’t hold out any hope anymore that there will be some kind of backlash. I feel utterly powerless because even as I watch the same pattern play out again (promises made, sudden last-minute concern, non-stop fear-mongering on every media, followed by reneging on the promises made and a moving of the goalposts) it’s already clear that most people will go along with it. I just know that I don’t have it in me to do this “new normal” in Ireland for much longer. I had some very dark days this year and I’m starting to feel that same despondency all over again.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    The shifting goalposts is extremely frustrating to me also. What is even more so is the inconsistent advice throughout. For example, everything is unsafe except for schools? Schools cases are up at the start of the new term? Lets do a Trump on it and stop testing the kids! So of course cases are up with schools back and kids passing it on to their parents and then on and on. Of course I believe schools should be open, but I am really angry when such contradictory advice.

    I still believe a lot are happy to get on with these restrictions as many have found a fondness for WFH (note: no agenda here, I always WFH before covid, and like it) and with "concern" and "fear" it keeps the offices closed. My 2cs on it anyway, I cannot understand why people are so accepting at this point, with well over 90% of the adult population vaccinated.

    But with RTE and co making a fortune from this, and with the general acceptance of restrictions I do also believe we have another few months even a year of this. But I hope to be proven wrong.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Galadriel


    I'm so upset over the latest announcements, I don't know why after almost two years I expected the government to act in a coordinated, logical manner.

    It just makes me so angry, restrictions are in place until February with the threat of more to come if things don't improve, it's that constant threat hanging over us, how can we enjoy anything?

    We have done everything asked of us, we've got a huge vaccination uptake but it's still not enough for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    Mother of god, everything is 95% open now, yes you have to show your covid vaccine cert and that's all you have to do, what the hell more do you want



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Galadriel


    You know what, I am sick of your catty comments on this thread (and others), it's about peoples mental health, if you've nothing to add keep moving.

    Why do you feel the need to move from thread to thread can dismiss people and what they feel?



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,456 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    I received a positive antigen test yesterday, had my PCR this morning and have been self-isolating since yesterday. Symptoms are mild, however, my mental health has taken a pretty bad beating. My current housemate where I rent isn't in any way understanding, he said to me yesterday: "Make sure you clean surfaces after you as you don't know what you could be leaving behind." Today I found a note that out that that I should be avoiding all rooms in the house especially the kitchen. I need to eat (As he won't cook me anything and leave it outside my bedroom door) and I am extremely careful with sanitising work areas etc. Passing on Covid to anyone (if I have it) is the last thing I want to do. He makes me feel like I shouldn't even be here. I could cry right now I just feel so unwanted and alone.. Sorry for the rant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Lisha


    God that’s hard I’m very sorry. Your house mate needs to help you in some way. If he won’t help you with food then you will have to leave your room. Even if you got food ordered in you need fridge access etc. makes more sense for him to help you. I’m sorry he isn’t helping you. I hope you get better soon and feel ok…. Could someone drop supplies to you…?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    My parents have dropped off food yesterday. They even asked me if I wanted to go home to self-isolate. But I didn't want to chance passing it to them. As they are both 60. I told them that it would be safer if I stayed in my rented accommodation, so I decided to stay here. At present, I am using my own utensils and disinfecting areas when I cook etc. I think it's the best I can do given the circumstances.. I have friends that live locally that have offered to help out in any way. But they can't really help in the way I need them which would be a place to stay, I can't ask anyone for that anyway. I chat to some of my friends though and I am finding that is helping somewhat. Yeah, I was surprised by his attitude though. If the roles were reversed I would cook for him and try to help in any way I could. But no, he doesn't want to have anything to do with me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Lisha


    It’s silly though as if he left food out for you you could stay in your room and it would be safer for him all round. So sorry he is adding to your stress. It’s not what you need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    Yeah that is my logic also, Thank you. I'll leave it at that. As I just realised that this thread is supposed to be for resources etc. I assumed it was somewhere you could express yourself. As I find talking helps a lot. However, it's not.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,040 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Sorry to hear that about your housemate. Just put it down to bad manners and do your best to ignore.

    All you can do is follow the guidance as regards self isolation. You can do no more.

    Afaik, it's fine to chat on here, if it helps. Get some stuff on Netflix to distract yourself as much as possible. If you are a reader, BorrowBox is a good resource and it's free.

    I understand your concern for your parents, but it might be easier self-isolating in their house, and you would feel more supported there.

    Mind yourself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    Thanks! Bad manners is right!

    Yeah, that's exactly it! I will remain to be very careful.

    Thanks for the recommendations by the way! I'll look into the borrow box app and I'm looking forward to some Netflix.

    I'll definitely consider going home. You're right about the support!

    Thanks very much!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,057 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Hang In there everyone

    This place can be horrible at times but remember it's only words and a screen at the end of the day. We're all here for each other and no way do we mean harm. We all agree and disagree but at the end of the day it's a way to express our views and opinions.

    Go to your grave/crematorium etc feeling happy. Go out and do whatever makes you feel happy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,977 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Not to go off on a tangent but I think Netflix is bad for your mind. A lot of the shows are about serial killers, dystopias and other very dark stuff. In the past, even a decade or two ago, people did not have this steady diet of really heavy themes they were absorbing all the time.

    Some scientists believe that television images implant in your mind like memories.

    I boycott Netflix for psychological reasons, its bad for mental health imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    YouTube is similar in that if you watch one negative video it will keep reccomeneding you similar stuff. It's hard not to go down a negative black pill worm hole. Anytime it reccomeneds me these now I tell it not to reccomened me it.

    I've cut out news completely from my life and its much better. Ignorance is bliss as they say. I only come here the odd time and I'm usually posting negative stuff I so have to check myself on that.

    I really had to cut out all this stuff and just focus stuff I actually enjoy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    I honestly don't know how I would have passed the time only for Netflix. I would have been forced to sleep and look at 4 walls. Plus it's not an "only serial killer" streaming service! There are many series and movies of all genres..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,977 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yeah I know. It's just that it has A LOT of disturbing content.

    But I'm not saying that everyone has to do what I'm doing, just trying to help anyone who may be exposing themselves to negative stuff and hadn't thought about cutting it out.

    If its personally good for you then that's another thing. There's no one-size-fits-all solutions.



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    How are you all? 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    I am so happy to finish my self-isolation tomorrow! Really looking forward to hugging both my parents tomorrow when I see them for the first time in 11 days!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Not doing too great now. I normally get the bus to work so was considered high risk and asked to stay at home for the time being. So I feel locked down again. I can't do everything from home that I would normally do in the office so it gets a bit tedious being at home.

    All this keeps telling me is that the vaccines were only a temporary solution and that we'll need to keep boosting. I've had all sorts of thoughts lately, ranging from "will this ever end?" to "what's the point in carrying on?".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    I'm currently in a near to desperation condition.

    I'm not Irish and live abroad, and in my country, despite the very good vaccine uptake compared to the EU average, most restrictions are still in place and it doesn't seem to me we're seeing the end of this. They keep moving the goalposts every week. Last summer they told us that once we had reached 80% of vaccine uptake, most restrictions, starting from the masks, would have been lifted. Well, it didn't happen, in fact they introduced more restrictions and rules, and now that things are going worse, they're thinking of something more. And now the minimum vaccine uptake has been moved to 90%, then it will 95% and eventually 100%. And even then, it won't be enough.

    It's easy to understand that this thing is endless, we will go through relatively good periods, possibly in the warmer months, then through dark times again, for years to come.

    I've lost interest in just everything. I had a couple of activities that were making my life bright and interesting, but I cannot do them anymore, and this is slowly killing me, to the point that nothing else catches my attention. I had a heap of things to do at home, but I keep postponing them, waiting to find the motivation to do them, and the motivation isn't showing up.

    This is what some experts called it "languishing", as one of the consequences of the post covid, a mental condition that shuts all interests off.

    Well, this is me at the moment, and I fear in the future as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    Do you think that abroad things might be any different?

    I can't think of a place in the world where things are easier and people are allowed to do activities and have a life as it was before.

    I'm not Irish and live in Italy. I had thought to move abroad to flee these set of rules and oppression that is slowly killing me, and ironically I had thought to move to Ireland. Just think of that 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    I was in Stockholm a few months ago and it was very normal. In England I had a similar experience. They’re both reasonable options and there may be others. What I really want is for Ireland to go back to normal as this is my home and I’ve always been happy here. But from my perspective things are really going the wrong way. There is no longer any kind of strategy to get out of restrictions and with vaccine uptake as high as it is it’s really hard to see where we can go from here; we either accept abnormality or we accept that hospitals could overrun until and unless the government does its job to improve them (not that that is unusual in winter in Ireland!).

    What’s happening now scares the hell out of me. The people have been convinced to blame each other for the spread of a virus as if it is somehow a moral failing that the restrictions aren’t really working that well. The government keeps adding arbitrary and ineffectual restrictions to our daily lives and many people agree with them citing “something is better than nothing” which just isn’t good enough when we’re talking about curtailing quality of life. While the people point fingers at each other the government quietly works to extend emergency powers that give them massive power to shut down what’s left of our normal lives at the drop of a hat and somehow questioning that garners accusations of conspiracy theorist or worse.

    Sometimes I don’t feel like I recognise my home or the people around me anymore and it’s depressing and suffocating.

    So I have no idea if somewhere else will definitely be better but I feel like I’ve been watching the things I love about Ireland die a slow death over the last two years and on more than a few occasions that dark, depressing thought has nearly swallowed me whole. If it weren’t for my partner I’d likely have already moved but the practicalities of jobs and responsibilities makes it a slow process. Fingers crossed that I’ll be proven wrong, everything will turn around quickly and I can somehow pick up from where I left off almost two years ago.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How were you in yourself before the pandemic hit, Irish Stones?



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    Its a shìte state of affairs Glaceon. Did we ever imagine we'd be dealing with something like this. I remember in the early days of it when news started to trickle in about a virus in China, I felt so sorry for them! And locked down as well. It was unthinkable and here we are and there we have been.

    Is there anything you like to do that you feel you still can? If you can grab on to bits of normality that can help. When I was in a dark place with all this I engaged with the parts of society that was open. So a trip to Tesco and a takeaway coffee.

    That was what worked for me so maybe you can find bits of happiness for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    Thanks for asking Diamonds,

    Before this pandemic, I was quite a relaxed guy, with my usual routines, wife, home, job, some trips outside, biking, walking, visiting places (both close to home and away), taking photographs, minding my cats, rescuing feral and stray cats, some DIY jobs, planning my holidays (Ireland is my favourite place!).

    It might sound not an extraordinary and brilliant life, but it was my life and I liked it.

    Since the pandemic hit, and the lockdown started, I knew I was going to say good-bye to a few of those items, mainly my holidays (which were what kept my mind going most of the year), and some of my hobbies.

    I haven't been even planning a day trip since then, and it seems I don't care at all. I don't see anything interesting around me, even those things that once would give me some pleasures.

    I hope you are doing great.



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    It sounds like a pretty good life to me. One where we can live as we choose and pursue our interests made all the more fulfilling by having people we love.

    I can understand very well IS how Covid has changed so much for you. It seems though that it has also changed you? Changed your ability to find some happiness in what you can do?


    I'm a better than a year ago thanks in part to acceptance, part less restrictions and part denial :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    What helped me when. decades ago, my life fell apart with the wrong diagnosis , was holding on to ONE simple creative activity that was viable in the world . With me that was and is knitting. For many years I worked at home for the Aran industry etc. Then traded at Craft fairs to fund my family;s work in India. Which I still do every day. The covid situation depresses by invalidating? We can mitigate that by involving in however small a way. Think about it? covid cuts folk off. If we can cpnnect in however small a way? In younger years I volunteered in all kinds of ways. There surely are channels now? I am too old now and too endangered as my immune system is out so I live out here in isolation. But I connect as folk here are doing. And knit to sell for dire needs of others. Yes it takes a massive rethink. But if you can pick up just ONE of your old interests? Just ONE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    The acceptance is a big thing. I couldn't accept how much the world had changed until lately. I think you just havr accept it and focus on anything you enjoy and ignore covid as much as you can. If someone talks to me about cases and variants or whatever I tell them I'm not interested in hearing about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    Yes, I think it changed me too, not only my life.

    When the pandemic spread, and we had just come out of the first lockdown, I felt that I had been seriously hit by it. I got it really bad, but I think I was still in time to recover, had the pandemic ended. More than a year later we're still to square one, and I can't really see any way out, so what meaning can my life have now?

    Glad to read you got over it 😊



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is a truly awful situation, even for those who kind of like lockdowns and things. This morning I got my first real bit of fear in ages. The thoughts of having to take another vaccine if the current ones aren't effective against Omricon fills me with dread. Feeling like my choice is "take this or be shut out of much of society". It's horrible.

    I think it is when we are dealing with tough times and when we feel that there is no way out, that's when finding meaning is all the more important 🙂



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