Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

What's horrible is taking up a hospital bed because of a refusal to follow health guidelines that would have prevented that scenario.

In fairness, you can say exactly the same about the double-jabbed, young and old, more of whom are taking up hospital beds because of a refusal to follow the health guidelines.

Hard to blame them, though, when they were surreptitiously led to believe that, once vaccinated, they'd be grand.

They have done one of the biggest and easiest things to prevent being hospitalized due to covid.

I wonder if people who chose not to be vaccinated would feel about being treated with the new Merck & Pfizer drugs if they were hospitilised.

Sure they are newer than the current vaccines and not as widespread usage. vaccines been used for 100 years, antiviral's probably a lot less.

Luckily, they are in position to refuse treatment, like they can refuse a vaccine.

That's not an uncommon line of thinking. We even had someone suggest the CDC advised HIV patient's to no get vaccinated. The poster even supplied a link. However the link did not say that the CDC advised against it.

I'd love to see a detailed breakdown. The only thing I can think of is allergic reactions to ingredients in vaccines and pregnant women within their first trimester. Both of which would be (IMO) extremely small minority. It think the medical excuse is thrown around as a veil to excuse people who couldn't be arsed or are antivaxxers. People afraid of needles, people afraid of being vaccinated with a new vaccine aside. Both reasons are valid.

It seems a tiny amount would not be able to be vaccinated.

So its mostly vaxx dodgers.

Even the austrian mandatory thing has no issues with people who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons.

It's just the anti vaxxers they don't want clogging up the hospitals for no good reason.

You're giving them too much credit.

It`s an interesting point though. You have been all over these threads favouring natural immunity. If you ended up infected and seriously ill where it eas diagnosed that you needed hospital care, would you turn down a bed ?

He has been all over these threads favouring natural immunity rather than any form of medical intervention to stop the spread of the virus.

I think that in a few months time you will be calling them dirty ungrateful double jabbers who don't deserve treatment because they don't have the triple jab + mystery pill combination.

When we have 90%+ vaccinated in ICU I am confident you will quietly change the target of your superiority.

Mystery pill? Is that that the Merck and Pfizer pill is called these days?

I suspect that some of the more extreme posters interact with actual faces so seldom that they might well think it acceptable to utter such things out loud.

They're great for parties though. They leave and you get to laugh with sensible people about how mental they are. It takes all sorts.

I wouldn't waste your time.

I've been in the company of such rabid vitriolic folk. High on self righteousness. Unpleasant company and sharing their opinions as if they are universal.

Almost a carbon copy of the most extreme anti vaxers that they so despise.

Self awareness is lacking.

I mean fine, I can understand that some people might find unvaccinated people frustrating if they genuinely believe that they are putting themselves in harm's way or are responsible for the health service or whatever, but threatening to withhold medical treatment is simply barbaric. For Christ's sake, we wouldn't withold treatment to a convicted murderer and I've never heard anyone advocating for such a thing, do these people see the unvaccinated as worse?