Acceptable Covid death rates

I have vulnerable family and friends and I know exactly what your situation is like. There is no “acceptable death rate”.

But vulnerable people have been dying of the flu for years.

Did you call for restrictions when this was happening all those years?

There are already widespread acceptable death rates in operation although most don't like to think about it.

Cars cause deaths but the benefit outweighs the death rate for almost all.

Economic values are placed on lives when deciding what drugs to purchase or quality of roads to build.

Even the flu causes a lot of deaths that could be prevented with lifestyle changes.

But people still caught and died of the flu even by restricting their movements.

But that was accepted, hence you never calling for restrictions.

The only way to stop people dying of the flu or covid is for everyone to remain in their house forever and ever.

The article doesn’t refer to acceptable deaths though, it refers to an acceptable death rate - what level of risk is a society prepared to take in order to regain some sense of normality. I didn’t read the rest of it because it’s behind a paywall, but that’s the general gist of any of the articles which are posing the question. There’s nobody referring to specific individuals, which I grant you would be disgusting, and I probably wouldn’t have any interest in reading said articles, but articles questioning what level of risk are societies willing to accept in order to live and go about their business?

Those kinds of questions are asked every day, and everyone finds themselves in situations where they are at risk from something or other on an almost daily basis and ask themselves whether or not the risk is worth it, and whether the level of risk is too great that it outweighs the benefits or not. The articles don’t mean that any death is acceptable, they’re questioning the costs vs the benefits - stay locked down with all the negatives that entails for a society, or risk opening society with all the negatives that entails, and whether one outcome outweighs the other.

Where does it end though, should healthy people under 40 park up their cars as road deaths have killed multiple times more of them in the last year than Covid has?

51 dead on the roads aged under 45 in 2020.

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https://rsa.ie/Documents/Fatal%20Collision%20Stats/Provisional_Reviews_of_Fatal_Collisions/RRD_Res_20201216_RSAProvisionalReviewFatalities31December2020%20(148)%20full_report_updated_FINAL1.pdf

Covid deaths 0-44, 62 deaths but that includes those with underlying health issues, reality is a fraction of those were healthy...

Cases up to and including 8th January 2021

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries19/

I tend to agree - except that personally I don't think its safe for anyone, vaccinated or not, to be dining or drinking indoors at the moment. Disease incidence is too high. So ironically I'm only giving my business to outlets offeting outdoor or takeaway.

You’re not being honest, you’re just being silly. Just because you imagine a law restricting your freedom of movement is unlawful, doesn’t mean in reality it actually is unlawful, and any imposition it places upon you personally isn’t unlawful either, it’s perfectly reasonable in circumstances where it is intended to protect you and other people from your stupidity. You still have rights, such as an absolute right to life, everyone has that right, and one of the means by which they are protected is by imposing restrictions on anyone’s ability to compromise other peoples rights. In reality there IS a level of deaths at which it becomes both acceptable and legal to impose restrictions upon peoples fundamental freedoms to protect society as a whole. That’s being honest.

I love when people use things like cars to compare against the restrictions. There is literally a book of rules for the road. If there are too many accidents on a stretch of road they reduce the speed limit for that road. Dangerous junctions are changed all the time. Literary to try save one or 2 more people.

Mark said it best (skip to 1:30)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5D1gJ_GygAI 

So covid is your kryptonite?

not confusing anything, just pointing out the fact that there are restrictions there too otherwise there would be a free for all. Also pointing out that laws change every day.

Head shops were there now their gone, lead for privately held firearms is to be banned. Petrol and diesel to be taxed out of existence.

Life has always had ristrictions and are being increased/decreased every day.

Those who put they're own selfish delusions before the common good are the real traitors.

No, just dissing the quote referenced in my post.