Smart meter opt out

So the main advantage is to the supplier who can't meet demand and the government that didn't plan and prepare for economic growth. 'Simply a way of moving usage from high usage times to low usage times to balance the grid' can also be read as forcing people to make even more changes to avoid additional charges. I know and appreciate what you are saying and understand the imperative to save energy, but this is a way of charging the consumer more to use less, by offering very marginal scope for savings. I stand by what I said earlier, in lots of aspects we have a dysfunctional market and therefore the usual beneficial factors for the consumer, are not applicable, or available.

Why are we not running our night-time household low level lighting on separate battery charged circuits in our houses using wind or solar, why are our very limited retrofit energy schemes so complicated and expensive to avail of, why is the only answer always to charge the consumer more so they are forced to use less while the data centres and other multinational offshoots continue to guzzle our capacity to supply? Why when we knew and accepted that the peat and oil burning generators would have to be phased out, did we not plan better? Why despite grants given to suppliers to develop alternative energy options, is the consumer still continually hit with increased rate charges, supplier standing service charges, carbon taxes etc.?

It's bad planning with the consumer at the end of the chain as a failsafe scapegoat and dressing up the mess as a smart meter advantage, is not going to go down well. We are in for an expensive ride in the future, because increasing costs for the consumer is the main tactic to be used for decreasing demand - without obviously hurting our vital economic sector of high energy consuming multinationals.

it looks like this on the portal, it has data from yesterday as well (this was a Monday), and yes, Electric Ireland:

Can you download / save the data?

That's what EV owners have realised. You can keep denying that but it doesn't change the facts.

At present, some of the cheaper tariffs available to those with a day/night meter, are not available to those with a smart meter. EV owners tend to be heavy users of electricity. Most are price savvy, research the best deals & switch providers yearly. They're big into tech, solar & gadgets, so they'd be all over smart meters. By their very nature, they are the antithesis of those "afraid of change".

I'm sure providers will update their tariffs but for now, smart meters can & do work out being more expensive for many consumers.

Your tariff only changes if you change plans after the meter has been changed, if you do nothing, everything continues as it did before with no changes, if they didn't tell you they were changing the meter then you'd never know the difference.

I am an EV owner, i have the new smart meter, I have not signed up to any of the new plans available to the smart meter owners. I'm still on the single rate I was on before. However the older Night rate meter has a better rate than the new smart meter offers.

They appear attractive, with some having a very low boost rate, but they have significantly higher day rates and a peak rate too.

They want to shift you to not using power in the evenings, and use everything in the early morning 2 to 4 am. It's not always practical

mine installed yesterday, missus was at home (WFH) and just arrived, Not appointment,

anyone offering Real Time in home monitoring or an app or likewise for households to monitor in real time ???

Hi, so Electric Ireland are supplying the in house monitoring device? Or its it just an app?

Does anyone know if you can buy your own and "pair" it with your smart meter, only we have just had smart meter fitted to a new apartment but Bord Gais don't seem to have a clue when I asked them where the in Home display was and told me to contact ESB who again where clueless?

Thanks

Yes, they are higher. Plus you can't get a day night smart meter.

If I want to opt out of getting a smart meter, will there be a charge added to my bill every month? Someone said there could be but I don't know how true this is. If it is true, then I don't think it is fair, especially as it isn't compulsory to have a meter.

That's false. Just refuse the meter. It's not compulsory.

Everyone will probably eventually have one, but the rollout is until 2025. Tariffs are a joke, plus day/night meters don't exist with smart meters. Also, their peak tarriffs 🙄

Does anyone have any examples of the difference in rates between the old day/night meters and smart meter offerings?

Those who are saying that the rates were better for the old night meter; are you taking into account the overall increase in electricity costs in the interim?

Looking at changing providewr at the moment.

Looks like all of the smart tariffs are far more expensive than the normal day/night tariffs. How hard wouldf it be for them to give you the same day/night tariff on a smart meter?

But they wont do it.

You would want to be seriously thick to want a smart meter with the tariffs available.

Not a fool at all Im never at home in the week and if you get a smartmeter you can get one day in the weekend free power so thats the reason i want a smartmeter so i can do anything on that day that eats power

Good luck staying home all day Sunday to get your value so as you can make up for double the price on the other 6 days of the week :)

Seriuously though, you are clearly not a normal user if you out all week and only home at the weekend.

And if thats what you have to do to make the smart meter work, i dont see too many people wanting the smart meter.

We have about 50% of our usage at night (12:00 - 9am) for 8c an hour including VAT.

The daytime is the other 50% at 16C inc vat.

Cant find any smart meter plan that compares to that.

No that is ev plan you are on and paying for day night meter but that plan is also going up 9.3% next week.

The plan I'm moving to will be 6c nighttime but only for the boost hours which I will be powering my house with thanks to solar and charging batteries at this very cheap rate.

Now we are differing in terms of what we require and I get you don't like smart plan prices etc as don't suit you so prefer instead of a back and forth on "smart meters are bad bad" that you will let someone answer my query on Electric Ireland half hourly usage and if it shows amounts per half hour in kWh. Many thanks to anyone who can help with this query.

No. its just called EnergySaver30% electricity.

For our usage. 50% between the hours of 9:00am to midnight and 50% between midnight and 9am, no other smart meter plan even comes close.

In electric ireland's daily view you can see the hourly usage (or cost) over any selected day. You can drill down from the monthly view or scroll right / left to the day you are interested in.

There's no neat tabular view like your second image but you can download up to two year's data giving energy consumption in half hourly intervals in csv format and view it in an external spreadsheet with date down the leftmost column and time in half hourly intervals across the top row.

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Finally got my account changed over to electric Ireland from bord gais after two weeks. But under usage it says not available yet try again later.

Did it take long after you joining for the daily usage to show in your account?