Boating chit chat thread.

HeidiHeidi · 14-09-2021 9:50am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117888408#Comment_117888408

Yeah, given the fact that we're gazillions in hock after Covid, I can see it being a very hard sell to the general public shelling out hundreds of millions (150 up front costs was the last estimate I heard) on yotties, no matter what the payback might (or might not) be.

I just wonder, having struggled every 2 years to get accommodation for 12 crew for Cork Week, where they expect it all to spring from for the 10s of thousands of visitors and spectators? And if they do manage to produce that many bed spaces, what happens them after?

No idea about the LV Cup (although wasn't it Prada last time??) - haven't heard that mentioned at all.

neris · 14-09-2021 11:16am

Been following a thread over on sailing anarchy about it and some of the crap coming out from local vested interests and media is amazing regarding numbers of bed nights, visitors, superyachts and tourist euros. We dont have the facilities to host the AC boats never mind all these magical superyachts and visitors if they turn up. The organisers/defenders would also probably need to be looking at a new class of boat just to cope with the waters off cork which are not as protected as Auckland. Covney seems to be a big force pushing this aswell and after his recent behaviour I could see this being used as a political football by sections of the left

Another issue I have is that this event was about the prestige of winning the cup and bringing it home to the winners local port/city/club but its now like every other big sporting event and just goes to the highest bidder

AndyBoBandy · 14-09-2021 11:25am

Nothing wrong with 12 metres....

neris · 14-09-2021 11:36am

Once they have manual coffee grinders and wire jib sheets why not

AndyBoBandy · 14-09-2021 12:07pm

I know the AC75's are magnificent feats of modern design & engineering etc..., but looking at 8 lads riding exercise bikes, while another 2-3 lads steer and trim the wing/jib wasn't exactly appealing to the inner sailor in me...

There's little excitement in watching 2 boats creaming along at 30+ knots.... with no drama going around the windward mark and hoisting kites....

The best you could hope for at the recent AC was in light winds and the boats maybe came off the foils.....

HeidiHeidi · 14-09-2021 12:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117889111#Comment_117889111

Agree 100%.

Either falling off the foils, or capsizing, was the height of the excitement to be hoped for.

After the first couple of races, literally the first boat across the start line was almost guaranteed the win. Drag racing is all it was.

AndyBoBandy · 14-09-2021 12:18pm

1 mistake and you lose the race, because by the time you rectify the mistake (get foiling again) the other boat is 3 miles up the course and can ease off because there's no way you're catching them.....

Remember on the 12 meters and the AC Class boats, and sometimes arriving a close 2nd at the leeward mark was actually an advantage as you could cover the lead boat and kill their wind.... it was just so much more tactical. Now it's basically the helmsman and the guy telling him where to steer. They might as well contest the next AC in Flying Fifteens or Squibs..

neris · 14-09-2021 12:24pm

Flying Fifteens or squibs are probably closer to 12M sailing then the foilers but would be just as boring to watch ploding around the course

HeidiHeidi · 14-09-2021 12:25pm

At least there would be a bit of sailcraft involved......

Sofa King Great · 15-09-2021 2:17pm

Looks like that is the end of that...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40698698.html

HeidiHeidi · 16-09-2021 9:19pm

Not quite the end.....

https://www.americascup.com/en/news/1279_37TH-AMERICAS-CUP-HOST-VENUE-UPDATE-TIMELINE-FOR-DECISION-IS-EXTENDED?fbclid=IwAR0VUPg3TvpIVJ2t_r4L_QXdD3JMVakpUlmyefNC2ze0R0J94U-0y1cQl8U

Reading between the lines today, I got the distinct impression that our lot looked for the extension, knowing full well it would probably be refused - and then it would be all AC's fault, they wouldn't have had to actually say "no, we don't want to do it".

If so - well, that's backfired on them!!

But I see now NZ are in with a last minute bid of some sort...... that would surely have to be the favourite if it's any way realistic.....

AndyBoBandy · 16-09-2021 10:20pm

It almost half looks like the AC are giving the extension to allow us to get our sh1t in order to decide if we want to do it or not…

you’d imagine a Europe based AC would be the best option for maximum TV audiences = ad revenue etc….

Tabnabs · 17-09-2021 10:46am

Now all Coveney has to do is not get fired from his job in government and demoted to the backbenches.

HeidiHeidi · 17-09-2021 11:02pm

Podium finish for Tom Dolan in the last leg of the Figaro, and 15th overall - great result for him! Nice interview with him on Seascapes this evening.

That solo offshore stuff is kind of mad, can't really get my head around it at all - absolute hats off to them!!

HeidiHeidi · 12-10-2021 9:22am

Wexford RNLI crews and R117 are featuring tonight on Saving Lives At Sea on BBC, 8pm.

And I think Dun Laoghaire are on next week's one.

AndyBoBandy · 12-10-2021 9:42am

Haven't been watching this current series, though they are all recording on series link, so I love to binge watch a few of them in 1 go...

Rosslare featured in one of my favourite episodes though a few years ago, the Storm Ophelia episode, when they had to rescue the lads delivering the Dehler 34 to Ireland...

HeidiHeidi · 12-10-2021 9:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118007840#Comment_118007840

Twice?

They had great patience!

neris · 12-10-2021 8:46pm

Dun Laoghaire are on it next week I think

HeidiHeidi · 23-10-2021 12:23pm

The Middle Sea Race got off today - and it's looking like a verrrrry windy one! All sorts of records up for the taking/breaking.

There's more Irish interest than I thought - Pata Negra is out there flying a notional ISORA flag, Sailplane has two Irish on board, Freya is there, and another Irish sailor is on board some boat whose name I missed, but I presume is Otra Vez.

And probably more that I've missed.

More happy days to be spent tracking dots around a screen!!

AndyBoBandy · 24-10-2021 2:46pm

Just got sent these!!!

Jelly Baby on the rocks in Cork.

HeidiHeidi · 24-10-2021 2:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118066280#Comment_118066280

😱 😱

neris · 24-10-2021 3:12pm

Raced against them at few irc & j109 events and was a good boat with a good young crew. Sorry to see that but glad everyone's OK. Boats can be replaced

HeidiHeidi · 24-10-2021 3:12pm

Afloat quick on the case!

https://www.afloat.ie/port-news/cork-harbour-news/item/52370-yacht-jelly-baby-goes-on-the-rocks-in-cork-harbour-as-racing-abandoned-at-royal-cork

AndyBoBandy · 24-10-2021 5:23pm

I’ve seen the video, she broached under main & Genoa only!!!, and broached into the rocks!!

AndyBoBandy · 24-10-2021 5:34pm

and just saw the video of her being re-floated….. so hopefully minor damage only…

neris · 24-10-2021 9:49pm

Rudders banjaxed and bouncing on the keel can't have been good internally. Looks from the boatyard video like a good bit of water got inside too

neris · 27-10-2021 9:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118061949#Comment_118061949

I'd say there's a very pissed off Russian billionaire who's had his brand new 125 footer beaten by a old 100 footer over the course

HeidiHeidi · 27-10-2021 9:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118078499#Comment_118078499

That was a bit of a surprise alright.

Although at one stage Skorpios was doing 5kts in a very odd direction coming down the westerly side of the course, I wonder did they have a problem of some sort?

But Comanche led most of the way on the water - great race by them.