The Great Reset

There are no radical changes. Paranoid people, impervious to basic logic/reason, are playing to their paranoid fantasies by reading into stuff that isn't there

Many posts back you asked for an explanation of why some batshiat blogger was talking nonsense and how whatever it is she was blathering about really worked. I took the time to explain it to you. You ignored it (as I knew you would) and moved onto the next insane nonsense thing to latch onto (as I knew you would)

The "Great Reset" and the WEF have been explained to you countless times on this forum, you aren't interested in facts/reason, you are only interest in your paranoid fantasies being validated. Once nothing comes of this, you'll get bored, create a new account and cling to whatever conspiracy trope comes along next year.

What "Radical changes"?

We are (or were) all wearing masks, because there's a global pandemic. Many people have started working from home, because there's a pandemic.

Since this is a conspiracy theory forum, and people are always suggesting paranoid drivel, are you going to suggest there's something nefarious going on? or are you just pointing out the obvious things we are doing to counteract a global pandemic?

What do you think he means?

You have not been able to say anything other... Maybe something bad is coming... What's coming? Why?

Radical change according to reality: more people working at home instead of at the office

Radical change according to fantasists: a tyrannical "they" are coming to control us, something big and nefarious is just around the corner, etc, etc.

A worldwide communist/nazi/satanic/cyborg dictatorship where everyone in the world will be divested of their property by 2030.

OK. What radical changes. You were previously claiming to be reading his book about the "Great Reset".

You have not pointed to anything in that book that is objectionable to otherwise supports your silly and vague conspiracy theories. So what happened? Was that stuff just not in his book? Where you lying when you were claiming to read it?

How come you're still dodging questions?

Bit hypocritical of you to whinge about "dismissing" when you are actively avoiding 90% of the posts made to you.

Typical really.

He is 83. Most likely dead in a couple of years. Long before he can control any nation. So what does he have to gain?

Some companies are not allowing unvaccinated workers return to the office - there's a pandemic, passing Covid to a colleague can kill them. That's not "tyrannical", it's basic common sense. Many hospitals have had it in place for years.

This is a discussion for conspiracy theories (and associated paranoid views) but many of those who propagate these theories don't like discussion, they just want validation. Many clearly don't like the free speech aspect of posting on a public forum.

What authoritarian overreach in Australia? be specific

Please provide examples of this "very extreme authoritarianism" you are referring to?

I'm not sure how free speech comes into it since it's not like I'm preventing you from posting on boards.

Barring people from employment is very extreme, especially since the risk from covid is both small and hypothetical (not strictly actual, only potential.) The protection from vaccines is only partial so we are comparing a % of risk versus another higher/lower % of risk. Very ambiguous, not at all stark enough to justify broadly taking away people's right to earn a living.

If you don't see that we won't agree on much or anything since our assumptions are too different.

Singapore and Victoria, Australia seem to be planning a wide employment 'lockout' (Dan Andrew's word) of uncompliant citizenry. Details haven't been finalised.

Lol.

If it's one thing that's not allowed on the conspiracy forum, it's questions.

Perhaps if you cats didn't dodge them and whinge about how mean they sound, and answered them instead, they wouldn't pile up as much.

I made a point to you and you did not address it.

My point was that the conspiracy theory being proposed on this thread is very ridiculous and obviously not true.

I asked if you believed in that conspiracy theory, and if not, what version did you believe was reasonable.

Could you answer that point now?

If not, could you explain why you are not answering it?

robinph,

I suspect it might be part of a conspiracy but I can't prove that obviously.

This is the forum to discuss conspiracy theories not either present cast-iron proof (in which case they wouldn't be theories) or agree it couldn't happen.

These vaccine passports are wrong, disproportionate and seem to be being 'rolled out' all over the world simultaneously.

The technology was suddenly being prepared back in early 2020. Then it was denied by many governments that they would be used. Then it was announced by the same governments that they would be used.

Now the word 'lockout' has come into use by a powerful Australian politician and barring people from employment on a wide scale is a possibility.

There's a lack of transparency, honesty and consistency. There is a snowballing of very extreme measures and they could not have been brought in so quickly without any planning.

Why couldn't they have been brought in quickly without planning? There isn't some overarching mastermind at the controls of all this.

Okay chief I've just deleted my Facebook and Twitter accounts.

Thanks for the discussion.

Dohnjoe,

I'm not crying about having people disagree with me.

Where they take a condescending tone or engage in a cod-Socratic method of firing dozens of questions at me simultaneously I will sidestep it. I'm not here to be grilled.

This whole world is not a hospital ward.

Safetyist control of every public and private building to try hopelessly to escape an airborne respiratory virus, even after vaccination, is disproportionate and wrong if it bounces people out of work.

There is a right to work, there's no right to be guaranteed healthy and if there were we wouldn't see indifference to obesity.

Governments have overstepped the mark big time.

I asked you a grand total of 3 questions.

One of which was for you to just explain why you were not answering those questions.

Three questions are apparently too many for conspiracy theorists to answer all at once.

Is one question ok?

Again, it's really really funny to have conspiracy theorists whine about people asking too many questions.

And it bares making clear: backing up your arguments does not equate to "demanding solid proof." Just in case we hear that particular excuse again.

We understand that there's no proof of conspiracy theories. We're not asking for that. We're asking you to outline why you believe in your conspiracy theories.

What convinced you? What facts or information makes you conclude or suspect that there's a conspiracy? What exactly is the form of the conspiracy you believe.

But as has been demonstrated in this thread, no conspiracy theorist seems at all able to do this for the Great Reset.

I suspect it's because conspiracy theorists don't want to admit the truth.

They believe the conspiracy theories because they saw them on youtube/twitter/bitchute/whatever, they liked them, and they didn't bother to do any verification or critical thinking about them.

You tell us what he means.

You claim to have read his book.

What does he say in the book?

Or are you going to admit to lying about that?

Radical changes: he means what everyone else means, that society will go through changes (as it always does). You do realise this guy is just the head of an economic forum, he's just making personal predictions and speculation. He's been around for decades making these kind of predictions and conspiracy theorists have paid no attention to him. One of the last forums was called the "Great transformation", but conspiracy theorists didn't notice it, so they couldn't scare-monger and fantasize about it.

Vaccine passports: Yes people have been denied services based on health status. You couldn't (and still can't) get or hold certain jobs based on your health status. There's a pandemic, you can't get on a plane with a fever because you could have Covid, do you understand this concept at all? it's common sense precautions. You keep obsessively trying to pretend it's something "scary" and "nefarious".