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What do you even call this? Funeral procession joyride maybe?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,505 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Toxicology report is relevant to culpability in many cases - not this one I admit. I'm thinking the driver and passengers were probably coked up.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    There must be massive money in repeat offenders. From solicitors to judges. Revolving doors.

    The people in the system seems to be content to keep things as they are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Time for a hardcore armed Garda unit that harrases the **** out of the likes of these scum.

    If homegrown lads are not up for it import ex special forces from around the world and pay them well to do it.

    Enough of these fks being a law onto themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Welcome to the real world, believe me if these scumbags descended on you or any of your family you would wise up fairly lively.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭katiek102010


    I'm so glad these scum are dead and I hope the truck driver makes a full recovery.

    Unfortunately these videos show there are plenty more scum to take their place.

    The guards are doing nothing about it as we have taken away their powers. All this BS about infringement of rights, civil liberties and GDPR. Cops put cameras up and the same asshole whines about big brother etc but at the same time records themselves and puts the videos over social media.

    I worked closely with a police force abroad. I had a body cam and a colleague with me and I found a gym bag with about 2kg of coke and thousands in cash in euro and sterling and a gun. Couldn't touch it without getting specific cops with specific warrants. In the waiting period and I mean hours he came bag walked in bould as brass took it in front of us, we couldn't say anything and nothing could be done as only evidence was on body cam and who's to say it was coke, real cash or a real gun.

    Yes the law is an ass but we have made it that way.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Salvadoor


    The Carl Freeman video is up on the O'Dwyer funeral directors facebook page now.


    One thing is for sure: that Funeral Director loves a slow-mo shot of himself putting on his trilby hat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    He does love himself. Front and centre in all the videos. The sunglasses on a chain and the shoes and no socks and the walking in front of hearse with the hat and cane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    This is it. In a nutshell.

    Why bother with the pretense of rehabilitation when you can coin from the repeat business? Most of those in the upper tiers of the legal system are rarely if ever victims of crime themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Those videos from the funeral directors are a **** disgrace. A floral tribute to look like a stanley knife. Jesus Christ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The only tragedy is the car hadn't a few more in it and the slow burn wasn't even slower.


    These are the worst of the worst and they deserved every minute in that car.


    God forbid that any of them died instantly.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    Pity it wasn't an airplane that crashed with the whole lot of them in it. Absolute vermin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    We can really see how the other half live in a situation like this. Now, some peoples kids go off the rails and there family look after them but they are ashamed of them at the same time and they'd never act like this.

    Now priests, undertakers, etc have to deal with fairly tacky situations sometimes. Now I've never seen an undertaker similar this guy the drone footage, his outfits, sunglasses, no socks, his posing, chest out, etc. It's one of those strangest set up I've seen. He's like a wannabe gangster undertake. Also it's a tad strange that the main contact number for an undertaker is a mobile number in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Karma is a bitch.

    No sympathy here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Jesus H Christ what a display at that funeral. And who the hell films people grieving and carrying a coffin?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    The funeral video to go with the wedding video. Never heard of it before. Imagine sitting at home one night and thinking to yourself sure lets watch Johnnies funeral video. 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    The funeral director loved the few (many) shots of himself, but why not, he was looking well and it's his business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Technically the problem is the justice system. Needs reform big time.

    But now that ya mention it. Maybe a special team setup to deal with people outside the law. Just disappear the scum. Just like cillit bang.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Wouldn't it be handy for the Kinahans if the death of these 3 crispy bits was turned in to such a spectacle that public pressure was brought to bear on the Cock Wall gang.

    I wonder was it the funeral home that suggested the videos etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I don’t think looking cheap and tacky is looking well!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭rogber


    As with most other people, not a shred of regret to see those 3 scumbags burnt off the face of the earth, my full sympathy with the truck driver who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and will doubtless be terribly traumatised by what happened even if he recovers from his physical injuries.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Judge Penitent


    This story really "warms" my heart! It's almost poetic that these miscreants would have almost certainly be found in what is referred to as the Pugilistic Stance, given their so called "culture"...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Caquas


    We cling to the vestiges of our traditions but Christianity, which was the centre of Irish life, is meaningless to us and an embarrassment in public life.

    In all the commentary, no one has made the obvious point that the prayers at this funeral could not save his evil soul from eternal torment. His aunt seemed oblivious to this issue - if she had any awareness of Christianity, she would have asked us to pray for their souls. Instead, she was full of the most obnoxious hubris.

    These men died in the act of endangering everyone on that road and almost killing that unfortunate lorry driver. If you believe in Heaven, you must believe in hell. Otherwise you believe that evil-doers will be rewarded with eternal happiness. But these ideas are not discussed because we are no longer Christians. We don’t even have enough understanding to pretend to be Christians.

    A number of posters here hoped that they died slowly in that fireball. Christians believe their souls will have all eternity to endure that suffering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    We should all chip in and buy these lads some people carriers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,019 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Interesting from The Times.

    Silence in Tallaght about trio’s deaths in N7 crash tells its own story

    Local politicians almost as wary of commenting as community workers, says former TD

    irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/silence-in-tallaght-about-trio-s-deaths-in-n7-crash-tells-its-own-story-1.4630081



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Most read story on the IT today.

    Everyone’s reading but no-one’s talking because everyone’s powerless!

    Key sentence:

    Clearly frustrated, the individual speaks of people living in a community where wrongdoers do not face the penalties they should for criminal and anti-social behaviour, while everyone else looks on, powerless.

    Wild funerals are the least of their problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,019 ✭✭✭✭The Nal



    Tallaght bashing aside (some of it warranted at this stage), the below is telling.

    Maguire, who has 25 convictions. Age 29.

    Freeman, who had 62 convictions. Age 26.

    Taylor, had 120 convictions. Age 31.

    Why in the name of God were they free?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Caquas


    The article is careful not to smear Tallaght, making the point that it has a population as large as Galway City and quoting an (anonymous) community worker:“Most people are good, decent, wholesome people who get up and do what they must do every day for their kids.”

    but it also points to the most troubled areas:

    There is obvious evidence of deep-rooted social deprivation and trashed public realm – not everywhere but in significant pockets, including in parts of Kiltalown, Jobstown, Brookfield and Springfield.

    The fear is palpable in this article. The clear message is that these thugs are bringing misery to their own neighbourhoods. They used the funerals to broadcast a message - "Three of us died but we are still in control and untouchable. Don't mess with us". At least they didn't desecrate the church with phony remorse. They leave that to their legal teams who prostitute themselves on a daily basis in the courts with lies about their clients "turning over a new leaf".

    A pity the IT didn't get a comment from their lawyers - no shame in having a guilty client but lying to the court should get them disbarred. No mention of the Gardai, the courts, the prisons or the probation services. All those services are part of the gangsters business infrastructure. A bit like the Environmental Protection Agency for polluting industries. They do add to operating costs but their main effect is to control competition by restricting market entry, especially in the most lucrative areas - drugs and prostitution. I wonder how lucrative the burglary business can be? I suspect the main attraction is that the market is open i.e. the bigger gangs don't care because it's open season on the general population.

    How many elected representatives are currently being paid to serve the people of Tallaght? I would guess more than two dozen at local, national and European levels. Not one will take a stand. Charlie O'Connor and Peter Kavanagh went on the record but only to mutter about how everyone else is staying stumm and they are just sympathising with the families. Eric Adams has got elected Mayor of NY by being tough on crime but I can't think of a single Irish politician in that mould.

    Peter Murtagh is a legend among Irish journalists - he worked for the Sunday Times and the Guardian before coming home to be Editor of the Sunday Tribune.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭Beatty69


    You can guarantee the Funeral Directors were paid very well in cash up front for this funeral.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    None of the three were Travellers, but Maguire was clearly held in very high regard, if you can fathom that, to be allowed marry into them.


    Always did wonder how you have the big ten- 12 traveller surnames then you see a few crop up that seem rare for their community but common among the settled, especially seeing as the popular surnames grew so big on account of 17, 18 kids per family. Maguires of Drogheda being one. Wonder whether it's when a settled man married into them relatively recently in history.


    Anybody know what all the "up Foxrock" business was about? Is Foxrock their favourite hunting ground?



  • Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭chosen1


    I'd know of a good few families like this in the midlands, including distant cousins of mine who would now classify themselves as travellers.

    I'd say the bulk of them are now indistinguishable from your average traveller and many have the baggage of various criminality. Many of their settled forefathers would have been from tough families, so wouldn't have been hugely different to begin with.

    I'd know a few examples of ones that went the other way and a friend of mines mother was from a travelling family. Two of the family are very successful with college education but one embraced the lifestyle of his grandparents and mainly hangs around with other travellers.

    Suppose alot comes down to good r bad parenting and how good values are instilled in their children whether they are travellers or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain



    6

    For those asking "how would they feel if their granny got broken into and beat", the levels of hypocrisy about these things are off the wall.


    A few weeks ago on FB I saw a fairly nationally well known gangster ranting and raving that his little cousin's bike had been robbed from outside a local shopping centre, offering a reward for into and threatening violence against anybody seen cycling it, even if they only bought it second hand.

    This fella started out as a car thief in the 90s. When he was too young for that probably snapped more bike locks than he can remember. Yet here he is apolopytic with rage because someone robbed his relative's bike.


    Ultimate irony being there's a good chance the bicycle was sold and the thief used the proceeds to buy a retail bag measure of drugs that the outraged gangster himself distributed in the area.


    Excuses friends of these three lads probably use? Well for one thing I'd imagine the only place these three men wouldn't rob in were the council estates of West Tallaght- both for the fear of recognition and the fear of accidentally doing a home associated with a local gangster or dissident republican. My thoughts:

    house in any neighbouring estate, say Firhouse or Knocklyon- "bleedin posh coonts look down on Jobstown"

    house in D4, Foxrock- "bleedin posh coonts look down on Tallaght people anyway"

    house down the country "bleedin culchies look down on Dubs anyway, besides they're all fuckin loaded tight coonts"

    house in Citywest or Adamstown "some tight foreign coonts who wouldn't have spent the money anyway"

    council house in, I dunno, Blanch "Blanch people are all fuckin scum anyway, Bohs supporters half of them"


    And so on and so on.





  • "house down the country "bleedin culchies look down on Dubs anyway, besides they're all fuckin loaded tight coonts""

    Yeah, when you get these guys referring to their fellow countrymen and women as "culchies" then you know you're dealing with real hate-filled ignorant gits, a bit like their London counterparts who refer to their fellow Londoners as "paddies" and "pakis".

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  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Normal One


    It’s particularly galling to see burglars glorified by their fellow scum - burglary by its nature targets innocent, often vulnerable people, it’s a violation of their property and person under threat of extreme violence in what should be their safe places. **** those 3, I hope they died roaring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    They did, roaring, screaming, melting.... Let's just hope hell is real and is like the version in Lucifer where they relive a horrible moment over and over for eternity. Scum.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,666 ✭✭✭thecretinhop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    If those funeral videos created by those scummy funeral directors in Tallaght were shown to law enforcement agents or other innocent people living in other countries as an example of seeing how scummer funerals can take place in Ireland. What would be their first response if they ever had the right mental headspace in themselves to actually watch them online?

    What could that answer be to that $64K question; could anyone here take a guess?

    I would presume this would not go down well at all with any of them. They will probably be rightly appalled or disgusted at the level of blind ignorance of those people who attended the funerals of these scumbags when they watch them on Facebook.

    In an ideal situation; the people who watch these videos & then leave positive messages of love and support over these scumbags deaths really would need to have their moral compasses questioned in a really uncomfortable way within Irish society. No individual who obtains a decent greed of support & respect in themselves for one's fellow man would never ever support activities like this taking place on social media. They would be instantly disgusted by the actions of these neanderthals & could secretly wish they could have the books thrown at them by the courts.

    The funeral directors along with the people who attended these funerals apparently have a clear notion in their own heads that Irish people who live around the country & in other parts of the world share their level of sympathy over these scumbags deaths. OTOH though; reality says different. Irish people who don't know about these gangs whereabouts of these scumbags activities could silently say to themselves that they have a different opinion that is more honest & rational when they get the chance to express their opinions about these violent scumbags. Irish people, who are not involved with these scumbags at all, could say in silence that their deaths is really good news for society in general.

    And I cannot really argue with that opinion. These vile pieces of human excrement caused an unquantifiable amount of misery towards other innocent Irish people to enhance their own violent behaviour & to enhance their own personal gain. I would say Irish society is delighted that these pieces of scum died crashing & burning in a car that wasn't even belonging to them in the first place. Karma is most certainly a bitch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭ChickenDish


    Joy ride was a small price to pay considering the benefits - the world is now a safer and better place due to the demise of these scrotes.


    I'd happily watch a hundred more funerals like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,497 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Every cloud... 😎

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Salvadoor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Absolutely.


    Think of the massive savings for people and the economy by these guys doing us such a favour and obliterating themselves off the face of the earth.

    Hundreds of families saved the heartache of a burglary.

    Hundreds of thousands of euro saved by insurance companies

    and millions saved by the state in legal fees defending these scum and their upkeep in jail that would have been on and off for the next 20-30 years


    and the unseen benefits - more time for gardai to solve other crimes and susceptible young lads no longer looking in awe at these scum.


    Frankly, it was one of the best days for the country for many a year and the truck driver who was injured should get a medal and decent compensation for their unplanned contribution to that wonderful event



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Freeman got a 10 year sentence with 4 years suspended in 2017 but was out this year obviously, how was that?

    These guys preyed on poor old people in their homes but got eulogies saying they were legends by loads of their friends and neighbors.

    Maguires aunt was on Liveline saying the three that died had more humanity in their hearts than of the media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Any of the media



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    25% reduction based on good behaviour + any time served whilst waiting trial is also taken into account



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Manky O Toole


    I hope these scumbags were conscious while they burned to death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,427 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I doubt you could describe their waking state in life as conscious to begin with.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭Salvadoor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Wife quoted in the article as saying Maguire was a legend and hero. Would have been nice if the reporter had asked how beating up and robbing old people in their homes made Deano a legend?



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