Don't forget the Customs Clearance Fee on top of that, which varies by delivery company...

Just got the An Post email too, great, everything more expensive. A lad i know in the UK was saying 6k is been charged on every container headed for Tesco's here. Someone has to pay for that, us . Same in other supermarkets i suppose too. Aldi and Lidl are not stocking the amounts of goods they were, several of the middle aisle special offers are not in stock as they cannot get the stuff in.


P.s. Premium unleaded 1.66 a litre today !

tudderone wrote: »

.............Aldi and Lidl are not stocking the amounts of goods they were, ...............

It’s not just Aldi & Lidl, lots of the bigger shops/retailer’s have greatly reduced stock/reduced variety than here to fore.

Someone said to me, food and necessary consumables take first place now, everything else is a bonus.

Wouldnt you think An post would set up addresspal Germany or France and ditch the now useless UK service .

cookimonster wrote: »

There's seemingly a big international shortage of shipping containers that is also adding to a combination of post Brexit, Pandemic and a few other international happenings.

The other half said there was a good piece about the VAT rate on the radio this afternoon. Seemingly its a EU thing and not a fall out from Brexit, it's just now that the UK is gone out of the market that we will feel it. Will this finally close the Chinese Internet market ?

True, (saw a piece on tv about it) containers are in short supply and charges have gone through the roof deepening on origin and end destination.
Now, end of China market, doubtful. Yes, they produce lots of cheap ****e and plenty of counterfeit stuff.

But, if you’re a big serious international player, get your dies/plans to them with own in house QC personnel, they can produce just as good as most countries and more importantly far cheaper.

Working conditions are crap though and consumer demand controls most things today. We all want it now and cheap and people dispose of stuff just to get the latest and newest fad stuff when the old stuff still works. Crazy.

Car99 wrote: »

Wouldnt you think An post would set up addresspal Germany or France and ditch the now useless UK service .

Or become some enterprising lad like the Poles and E blockers do. Get a weekly run going with a lad in a van to collect your goodies in an EU country, and bring them over. Anything from a letter to a suite of furniture,to engine blocks,tools etc,and have a return run bringing stuff back from Ireland. Works out cheaper than the postal services in some cases for big items.

tudderone wrote: »

Just got the An Post email too, great, everything more expensive. A lad i know in the UK was saying 6k is been charged on every container headed for Tesco's here. Someone has to pay for that, us . Same in other supermarkets i suppose too. Aldi and Lidl are not stocking the amounts of goods they were, several of the middle aisle special offers are not in stock as they cannot get the stuff in.


P.s. Premium unleaded 1.66 a litre today !

The €6k is going to be VAT or predominantly VAT with a bit of Duty if they are importing non UK origin goods from the UK, Tesco get an input credit for the VAT paid, same as if they bought the goods from an Irish supplier, business pretty much as usual, just used to be a Zero rated intra EU transaction before.

Bog Trotter99 wrote: »

Going off topic here but the EU's attempt of trying to teach the UK a lesson and warn any others thinking of leaving........... By charging Irish citizens extra money for goods purchased in the UK and by stopping half the goods we always saw in our shops is not business as usual.

The EU has restricted our normal life and dictated on who and what we can buy and spend our money on/with. They have also made goods rise in price in the shops or be unavailable to Irish citizens and businesses.

They have dumped on Ireland from a great height. If the UK citizens wanted to leave that is up to them. There is no way us in Ireland should be penalised because the EU cant accept it. Brexit rant over.

The EU are not charging us anything over and above any charges that would be levied on any goods from any third country, in fact the trade deal is pretty good, the U.K. Could have taken Theresa Mays deal, which would have kept you happier, they didn't, that's their fault, not the EU's

You are free to spend your money wherever you want, it'll cost more outside the single market naturally, sure what would be the point of a single market if an outsider (the UK in this case) got full access without being inside it?

I suggest you redirect your anger towards those that left, or perhaps focus on purchasing from within the EU, you might find it surprising, but you can buy stuff from an EU country, in the same currency, delivered to your door.

If you want to join brexit land perhaps start or join a political movement with that aim, or when that fails emigrate to the UK.

Bog Trotter99 wrote: »

No its petty point scoring by the EU.

What have you done wrong? You aren't committing a crime sourcing goods from elsewhere that our so called betters tell us that we live in a 'global economy.'

Some of the goods are cheaper from UK. Why? Possibly because this country taxes people to death or/and the rules and regulations are obscene or/and business here is not competitive. All of this isnt your fault so why tax you twice or three times.

It was the eu/Merkel/ Von Der Leyen using Ireland as a stick to beat the UK, who had the temerity to leave their rotten club. As proven in 2008, the eu is quick to chuck us under the bus when it suits them.

For shopping from the UK, Amazon is pretty much the same as it always was (it was even better in the first half of 2021 where orders <€22 weren't charged VAT). I'd expect most UK online retailers to follow that lead soon enough, once they get used to things.

As for other countries - stuff from USA etc always attracted VAT, handling. I doubt many <€22 items are ordered from places like that. So it's largely the small <€22 Chinese imports affected, and VAT on that stuff would also be small. And nature business always finds a way. So we'll see either AliExpress using more European distribution centres, or including EU VAT in the prices. It'll still be cheaper than bricks'n'mortar stores.

It's a pain for now, but it'll improve and life will go on.

Bog Trotter99 wrote: »

Incorrect. Amazon loads the price of goods to Ireland at checkout. Amazon shopping by Ireland is almost zero now.

I'm not sure I've seen that. I see more stuff that won't ship to Ireland alright.

But when I do make an Amazon order I see UK VAT removed and Irish VAT applied. Not a lot of difference. Unless it's changed?

tudderone wrote: »

It was the eu/Merkel/ Von Der Leyen using Ireland as a stick to beat the UK, who had the temerity to leave their rotten club. As proven in 2008, the eu is quick to chuck us under the bus when it suits them.

This has nothing directly to do with BREXIT and nothing to do with point scoring. The EU were doing this regardless of BREXIT and it affects imports to the EU from the entire world. However, some seem to think the world revolves around the UK and BREXIT, well it does not.

If the UK had agreed the deal which Therese May was offered then there would be no charges to pay as they would still be within the EU Customs area. However, crazier minds prevailed and THEY OPTED to be out of it. If you are out you are out just like China, Botswana, Singapore etc. Now of course, as expected, they are whinging about it.

If any country was quick to do anything, it was the UK, who removed the low value limit on 1 January of this year. Hitting EU, including Irish exports, straight away.

Brian2011 wrote: »

Are they actually going to check every single item? That would require alot more time, staff and resources. They will just go after items they can make loads of money on, not worth checking every low value item bought from China.

The way the system works now is that the exporter in China or wherever must send an electronic list of all the contents in every item.

In effect, the charges are worked out before the item even gets here based on the list of goods arriving. Once your item enters the country then the delivery agent (DPD, An Post, DHL etc.) send you the SMS to tell you that you have to pay a charge.

They (or rather the Customs computer system) will automatically go after every single item regardless of how low the value might be because (i) its EU law and Irealand must comply (ii) a lot of small items add up to millions in revenue.

The days of maybe it will slip through are just about over. Also, it cuts down on restricted and prohibited items being imported as they must be declared electronically in advance.

freddieot wrote: »

This has nothing directly to do with BREXIT and nothing to do with point scoring. The EU were doing this regardless of BREXIT and it affects imports to the EU from the entire world. However, some seem to think the world revolves around the UK and BREXIT, well it does not.

If the UK had agreed the deal which Therese May was offered then there would be no charges to pay as they would still be within the EU Customs area. However, crazier minds prevailed and THEY OPTED to be out of it. If you are out you are out just like China, Botswana, Singapore etc. Now of course, as expected, they are whinging about it.

If any country was quick to do anything, it was the UK, who removed the low value limit on 1 January of this year. Hitting EU, including Irish exports, straight away.

They aren't whinging about it, we are. I was buying tools, materials, machines, spare parts from the UK as they had a much greater selection, cheaper prices and staff who actually gave a damn and know what they are talking about. I can't buy from there now without being screwed.

"Buy from Europe ? " Nope they seem to want to charge as much to send goods over as anywhere else. On a small engine part (a carb), from Germany, they wanted over 35 euros to send it via the slow boat, rip off, and the fact we are in the eu doesn't seem to cut much ice with the French, Germans or anyone else over there, not friendly or helpful to deal with, not happy you don't speak their lingo, and a take it or leave it attitude in my experience.

The Theresa May deal ? Yes stay in the custom union, but take eu laws and regulations drafted by some unknown in the commission, probably someone who also works for Deutsche bank or Goldman-sacks, that you have no control over.

tudderone wrote: »

They aren't whinging about it, we are. I was buying tools, materials, machines, spare parts from the UK as they had a much greater selection, cheaper prices and staff who actually gave a damn and know what they are talking about. I can't buy from there now without being screwed.

"Buy from Europe ? " Nope they seem to want to charge as much to send goods over as anywhere else. On a small engine part (a carb), from Germany, they wanted over 35 euros to send it via the slow boat, rip off, and the fact we are in the eu doesn't seem to cut much ice with the French, Germans or anyone else over there, not friendly or helpful to deal with, not happy you don't speak their lingo, and a take it or leave it attitude in my experience.

The Theresa May deal ? Yes stay in the custom union, but take eu laws and regulations drafted by some unknown in the commission, probably someone who also works for Deutsche bank or Goldman-sacks, that you have no control over.

Some people will whinge no matter what, I'd imagine it can't be good for their health to be in a constant state of negative thinking.

Amazon are charging £145 for a set of gen.3 Primo's Trigger Sticks but won't deliver to Ireland. That could be seen as something to whinge about, instead of whinging I checked Amazon.de and got them delivered to my front door for 106.60 euro.

We're still getting plenty of stuff from Amazon.uk delivered as well and no issues with extra charges on any AliExpress orders.