Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

growleaves · 23-06-2021 06:48PM

MOR316 wrote: »

That's kind of what they've done. Both NPHET and Government

A lot of places started taking bookings for indoor dining last week. Some places are booked up for the week of the 5th onwards...

MM said no changes for the 5th of July less than 24 hours ago and then they wake up to him doing a U turn, not even 10 hours later...

I mean, kinda is pulling the rug there tbf...Even worse, they've leaving them hanging

normanoffside · 23-06-2021 06:50PM

Nice to see that HIQA stating the obvious 15 months into this.
Being healthy may help you not get too sick with Covid.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1407647345974652931

PTH2009 · 23-06-2021 06:52PM

NPHET wont take the risk and accept that younger people might not need hospital treatment if they do get the virus but nope like the positivity around the Antigen testing they don't want to hear about it and they will scare the Government into thinking the same

Silentcorner · 23-06-2021 06:52PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Nice to see that HIQA stating the obvious 15 months into this.
Being healthy may help you not get too sick with Covid.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1407647345974652931

Did they say anything about knocking team sports on the head and shutting gyms for the entire population for 7 months?

stephenjmcd · 23-06-2021 06:53PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

NPHET wont take the risk and accept that younger people might not need hospital treatment if they do get the virus but nope like the positivity around the Antigen testing they don't want to hear about it and they will scare the Government into thinking the same

You've said the same thing on multiple threads in the last day. Repeating the same point doesn't make any difference. There's feck all you or me can do about it at the end of the day, but repeating the same point over and over again doesn't do anyone any good.

Just go out for a pint and relax, switch off

zackory · 23-06-2021 07:12PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Would it be better if they gave them a speculative yes and then pulled the rug next week?

No. But this is going on for 16 or so months now and it's been well explained to politicians that hospitality needs extended notice to reopen, so whatever plan the government came up with needed to include this.

It's an obvious failing on the part of government.

Can you even see that?

AlekSmart · 23-06-2021 07:14PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

NPHET wont take the risk and accept that younger people might not need hospital treatment if they do get the virus but nope like the positivity around the Antigen testing they don't want to hear about it and they will scare the Government into thinking the same

I wonder if NPHET has a register of members interests ?

thebaz · 23-06-2021 07:16PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Nice to see that HIQA stating the obvious 15 months into this.
Being healthy may help you not get too sick with Covid.

Took 15 months for our Nanny state to advice on common sense - Stay fit / dont smoke / moderate alcohol and Vitamin D - meanwhile in that 15 months they have been banning team sports , banning gyms and the rest - the impact on our young is going to be truly horrific ,

pc7 · 23-06-2021 07:20PM

Wonder is it a case of fly these kites and then still go ahead with all as planned the 5th and be the heroes? Cause it makes no sense to be doing this with the hospital numbers we have and even UK are seeing with Delta.

hynesie08 · 23-06-2021 07:20PM

zackory wrote: »

No. But this is going on for 16 or so months now and it's been well explained to politicians that hospitality needs extended notice to reopen, so whatever plan the government came up with needed to include this.

It's an obvious failing on the part of government.

Can you even see that?

Of course, the announcement should be Monday at the latest, the fact that it's being left to Thursday is ridiculous.

Doesn't change the fact that the chain has been preannouncing-silence-speculation-doubt-suspected leaks-actual leak- announcement for over a year now, I don't know why people are still falling for it.

Klonker · 23-06-2021 07:29PM

All because of a tweet from Tony Holohan that they guess that there are 20% Delta cases but nothing official is known. By the way still no word on how they came to that 20% figure.

We are ahead of NPHET projections on all metrics and yet they still want to delay.

Its hard to actually believe what's happening, what the hell has happened to our country?

KanyeSouthEast · 23-06-2021 07:32PM

Klonker wrote: »

All because of a tweet from Tony Holohan that they guess that there are 20% Delta cases but nothing official is known. By the way still no word on how they came to that 20% figure.

We are ahead of NPHET projections on all metrics and yet they still want to delay.

Its hard to actually believe what's happening, what the hell has happened to our country?

Weak government, weaker opposition, docile population, appalling media, cautious conservative country unless it’s some trendy social media led cause and of course social media itself. What a time to be Irish.

namloc1980 · 23-06-2021 07:32PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Of course, the announcement should be Monday at the latest, the fact that it's being left to Thursday is ridiculous.

Doesn't change the fact that the chain has been preannouncing-silence-speculation-doubt-suspected leaks-actual leak- announcement for over a year now, I don't know why people are still falling for it.

There should be no question of people "falling for it". The communication has been an omnishambles from the get go. We shouldn't have to settle for this as you think we should.

namloc1980 · 23-06-2021 07:36PM

Klonker wrote: »

All because of a tweet from Tony Holohan that they guess that there are 20% Delta cases but nothing official is known. By the way still no word on how they came to that 20% figure.

We are ahead of NPHET projections on all metrics and yet they still want to delay.

Its hard to actually believe what's happening, what the hell has happened to our country?

His last tweet a month ago had riot police on the streets and dire pronouncements about case numbers. In fact numbers have continued to decline since then with no spikes evident. Up until his tweet this week, things were looking good for July 5th with all the right noises. Since then the politicians have fallen into line with talk of dark clouds and possible delays.

prunudo · 23-06-2021 07:40PM

Surely the back benchers and other party members will be having words with their cabinet colleagues and saying a failure to ease restrictions will not go down well with the electorate.

beaz2018 · 23-06-2021 07:48PM

I see Richard Chambers is after writing a book on covid. From nobody to celeb reporter writing books with huge social media following, what a gift covid has been for his like. Can’t blame them for milking it really, their industry was in the toilet before this.

thebaz · 23-06-2021 07:51PM

Klonker wrote: »

All because of a tweet from Tony Holohan that they guess that there are 20% Delta cases but nothing official is known. By the way still no word on how they came to that 20% figure.

We are ahead of NPHET projections on all metrics and yet they still want to delay.

Its hard to actually believe what's happening, what the hell has happened to our country?

Tony H is revvered by 50% of the country , he got the Freedom of Dublin a few weeks back.
50% of the Population are happy to live in this state of Limbo , semi locked down and told what to do at the daily 6 PM briefings - 50% of the population are living in a state of over-anxiety of the virus , yet ther are only 39 people in hospital with Covid today, and the Indian variant has thankfully started to decline rapidly in India. I have been to India many times , great country but has great poverty and is over-crowded, Covid was always going to be a bigger problem ther than Ireland.

MOR316 · 23-06-2021 07:54PM

beaz2018 wrote: »

I see Richard Chambers is after writing a book on covid. From nobody to celeb reporter writing books with huge social media following, what a gift covid has been for his like. Can’t blame them for milking it really, their industry was in the toilet before this.

Saw that. Just waiting for The Zara King chat show...

Their industry was in the toilet because they are toilet! From Louis Theroux to Dan Reed, from Chambers to King, from Dan Wootton to Piers Morgan, from Claire Byrne to Matt Cooper.

Wouldn't clean my toilet with any of them

lee_baby_simms · 23-06-2021 08:02PM

beaz2018 wrote: »

I see Richard Chambers is after writing a book on covid. From nobody to celeb reporter writing books with huge social media following, what a gift covid has been for his like. Can’t blame them for milking it really, their industry was in the toilet before this.

I miss actual news reporters. Remember the ones who weren’t interested in self promotion and making friends and instead would ask intelligent questions that would hold decision makers feet to the fire?

Penfailed · 23-06-2021 08:06PM

growleaves wrote: »

There is no ambiguity. He was asked whether there would be a lockdown this winter and the answer was a variation of 'maybe'.

'Maybe' is as about an ambiguous an answer as you can get.

Penfailed · 23-06-2021 08:09PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

We're postponing our reopening because places in the UK did

That's quite the conclusion you are jumping too.

GeorgeBailey · 23-06-2021 08:13PM

thebaz wrote: »

Tony H is revvered by 50% of the country , he got the Freedom of Dublin a few weeks back.

Tony Holohan is revered and I saw a survey today that RTE is the most trusted source for news in the country and that 78% trust them. So anyone on here predicting that there'll be riots if restrictions aren't lifted are kidding nobody but themselves... or if there are riots it'll be by very much a minority of the nation doing so and the majority of the nation will be horrified as they watch the scenes unfold on the Six One news.

Just for clarity I personally am not a big fan of Tony and almost never watch RTE but I do recognise the fact that my opinions/views do not tally with the views/opinions of the majority.

thebaz · 23-06-2021 08:14PM

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Weak government, weaker opposition, docile population, appalling media, cautious conservative country unless it’s some trendy social media led cause and of course social media itself. What a time to be Irish.

True , but its not just us , look at Australia , some of what has happened in Melbourne has been truly shocking - Dont know if it is all the virtue signalling on Social media , but the whole world has become rather unpleasant.

23-06-2021 08:15PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I miss actual news reporters. Remember the ones who weren’t interested in self promotion and making friends and instead would ask intelligent questions that would hold decision makers feet to the fire?

Can't remember many of them Tbf. Politics/Journalism has always been friendly enough here.

hynesie08 · 23-06-2021 08:15PM

Penfailed wrote: »

That's quite the conclusion you are jumping too.

It's full on fantasy.....

hynesie08 · 23-06-2021 08:16PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I miss actual news reporters. Remember the ones who weren’t interested in self promotion and making friends and instead would ask intelligent questions that would hold decision makers feet to the fire?

No, care to name them?

beaz2018 · 23-06-2021 08:17PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I miss actual news reporters. Remember the ones who weren’t interested in self promotion and making friends and instead would ask intelligent questions that would hold decision makers feet to the fire?

Why would they antagonize their paymaster? Let’s be honest, none of us would. The instructions are sent out and the bots do their thing. It’s the same everywhere but unfortunately Ireland is a backwards kip so more people are inclined to just fall for it.

normanoffside · 23-06-2021 08:18PM

thebaz wrote: »

Took 15 months for our Nanny state to advice on common sense - Stay fit / dont smoke / moderate alcohol and Vitamin D - meanwhile in that 15 months they have been banning team sports , banning gyms and the rest - the impact on our young is going to be truly horrific ,

And telling us to stay indoors for most of that time.

growleaves · 23-06-2021 08:41PM

Penfailed wrote: »

'Maybe' is as about an ambiguous an answer as you can get.

There's no ambiguity that Martin has refused to rule out another lockdown. It has been ruled in, however faintly.

If it could 'maybe' happen then it is a possibility, which was what I was originally arguing.

beaz2018 · 23-06-2021 08:57PM

The pubs won’t open indoors in 2021 in Ireland. Abuse and tin foil hat me all you like, wait and see.

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