Neighbour Parking

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:25pm #1

I live in a housing estate which has a busy road running thru it, my next door neighbours house owns four cars and two of them are constantly parked on the public roadway outside my driveway at either side of my entrance gate, these block my view of traffic on the road as I enter or leave my driveway. While I accept that nobody has the right to exclusively park outside their driveway on the public road, I feel that these cars are obstructing my view and are a danger, I have brought this up with my neighbour but to no satisfaction, I feel they should have considered where they were going to park four cars before they bought them, any advice please? There are no road markings and the neighbour is a difficult person to deal with.

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:30pm

I can't, sometimes the cars are parked there for days on end, anyway I don't want to play tit for tat and add to the problem which they are causing

listermint · 19-06-2021 9:31pm

Simple answer. If you have a driveway and have space for your cars use it . If you don't and have run out of space then park where you are legally allowed to .

Based on your description these folks have maxed out their driveways space. With all due respect OP with the advent of people having to live at home with their parents to save for housing this issue is common and actually ok . You don't own the road as you've stated. So realistic answer is take your time out of the garden and be safe. But be conscious other people need to park their transport too

CRI0ST0IR · 19-06-2021 9:31pm

As long as they are not blocking you into your house, or across your driveway/house they aren't doing anything wrong. My view would be either to try and reason with them, or just do what they are doing and park out on the road too... if you can't beat them, join them.

Fils · 19-06-2021 9:32pm

Can you afford to buy a suv? High seat position see over cars.

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:32pm

Agreed but my issue is that of road safety which you don't really address

Treppen · 19-06-2021 9:32pm

Nothing you can do really. I had a similar situation, just had to get out of car and take a good look then jump in quickly and inch out.
To be honest it's not your neighbor's fault for parking on a public road, if it helps you could park on the road outside too.

I presume you reverse in. Never understood people who drive straight in on busy roads, then reverse out blind onto the road.

niallb · 19-06-2021 9:33pm

Are there electricity or telephone cables overhead?

Feed the birds near your gate.

19-06-2021 9:33pm

Simple question, are they parked legally?

CRI0ST0IR · 19-06-2021 9:34pm

Stanford wrote: »

Agreed but my issue is that of road safety which you don't really address

Maybe get one of those weird looking mirror things? and stick it across from your driveway to see cars coming?

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:34pm

niallb wrote: »

Are there electricity or telephone cables overhead?

Feed the birds near your gate.

Nasty!!!

Fils · 19-06-2021 9:34pm

Having a good reverse camera makes it safer to reverse out rather than stick the front of car blind onto road and expect everyone to obey you.

CRI0ST0IR · 19-06-2021 9:34pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Simple question, are they parked legally?

From his statement, I believe they are which is why he has the problem of not being able to do anything about it to an extent.

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:35pm

CRI0ST0IR wrote: »

As long as they are not blocking you into your house, or across your driveway/house they aren't doing anything wrong. My view would be either to try and reason with them, or just do what they are doing and park out on the road too... if you can't beat them, join them.

I always assumed it was illegal to park against the flow of traffic?

CRI0ST0IR · 19-06-2021 9:35pm

Fils wrote: »

Having a good reverse camera makes it safer to reverse out rather than stick the front of car blind onto road and expect everyone to obey you.

No one gives way in 2021 so never expect that.

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:37pm

Fils wrote: »

Having a good reverse camera makes it safer to reverse out rather than stick the front of car blind onto road and expect everyone to obey you.

Not true, a reverse camera only shows the road behind, the traffic comes from left and right

Fils · 19-06-2021 9:38pm

Stanford wrote: »

Not true, a reverse camera only shows the road behind, the traffic comes from left and right

Incorrect, a good camera will give left and right view. Perhaps in your car you have poor camera.

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:40pm

Fils wrote: »

Incorrect, a good camera will give left and right view. Perhaps in your car you have poor camera.

Perhaps but I have never seen a camera on a car which shows 180 degrees

CRI0ST0IR · 19-06-2021 9:40pm

Fils wrote: »

Incorrect, a good camera will give left and right view. Perhaps in your car you have poor camera.

Or just buy one of those reflectors/mirrors and stick it across from the driveway entrances to see oncoming traffic.

Fils · 19-06-2021 9:40pm

Stanford wrote: »

Perhaps but I have never seen a camera on a car which shows 180 degrees

Do you drive a Dacia perhaps?

listermint · 19-06-2021 9:42pm

Simplest solution to this is to get a motorbike and then join the motorbike sub forum.

Win win

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:42pm

I've mentioned this to the neighbour and by his attitude he couldn't care less so I'll check with the local Gardai and take their advice, I've been more than reasonable so far

dublin49 · 19-06-2021 9:42pm

no empathy from your neighbour but thats not a crime.Your post suggests because their legal parking is causing you a safety issue that somehow over rules the normal legal scenario re public parking,in my view it doesnt and you just gotta be careful .

The_Honeybadger · 19-06-2021 9:42pm

Very little you can do unless they are parked illegally. Had the same problem at one stage in a house I was renting with neighbours leaving cars all over the place and sometimes visitors to their house even parking across our driveway. Had to knock on the door and ask them to move on several occasions

Stanford · 19-06-2021 9:48pm

The 1997 Regulations, parking is prohibited :

-- in any place, position or manner that will result in the vehicle obstructing an entrance or an exit for vehicles to or from a premises, save with the consent of the occupier of such premises;

-- in a manner in which it will interfere with the normal flow of traffic or which obstructs or endangers other traffic;

frag420 · 19-06-2021 9:51pm

If you’re willing to spend a few quid to solve your issue then how about buying a cheap banger and as soon as either of the two cars either side of your drive moves then park the cheapo there but don’t forget to give yourself enough room to drive out safely eh!!

Also, think how satisfying it will be to beat your neighbour at his own game, it’s a win win!!

Mrs OBumble · 19-06-2021 10:02pm

Approach the local council to request double-yellows outside your house because the road is dangerous.

Rustyman101 · 19-06-2021 10:03pm

Na it's being a decent neighbour, w****r next door parks his Mercedes van outside my house obstructing my view completely coming out of my drive, he's an tosser no point in trying to talk to him, funny thing is I wouldn't dream of doing what he's doing ! Plenty room to park his van about 50 meters from his door but the lazy c*** couldn't be bothered to walk ! Played tit for tat, he didn't like it funny thing he thought I shouldn't be parking outside my own house ! ðŸ€”

embraer170 · 19-06-2021 10:06pm

Photos might help understand the situation.

frag420 wrote: »

If you’re willing to spend a few quid to solve your issue then how about buying a cheap banger and as soon as either of the two cars either side of your drive moves then park the cheapo there but don’t forget to give yourself enough room to drive out safely eh!!

Also, think how satisfying it will be to beat your neighbour at his own game, it’s a win win!!

Cheap banger will still need road tax, NCT and insurance.

frag420 · 19-06-2021 10:07pm

embraer170 wrote: »

Photos might help understand the situation.

Cheap banger will still need road tax, NCT and insurance.

Surely just tax so long as you’re not driving it no!?

19-06-2021 10:09pm

frag420 wrote: »

Surely just tax so long as you’re not driving it no!?

Where is it going to be parked?

19-06-2021 10:10pm

They’re assholes but if they’re parked legally then you’re beat. Going to become more and more of an issue in the coming years unfortunately.

If they’re not legal then go to town on them. The ‘friendly neighbour’ thing is a dead duck in this day and age.

listermint · 19-06-2021 10:14pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They’re assholes but if they’re parked legally then you’re beat. Going to become more and more of an issue in the coming years unfortunately.

If they’re not legal then go to town on them. The ‘friendly neighbour’ thing is a dead duck in this day and age.

How is it arsehole to park cars outside you own house..

Let's say there are 4 adults in the house in a 2 vehicle driveway. What should they do. Leave the road clear outside in case the neighbour have visitors ? It's a public road.....

I moved to the country to get away from this nonsense. Pretend ownership of something you have no ownership over.

0ph0rce0 · 19-06-2021 10:15pm

<SNIP>

19-06-2021 10:15pm

listermint wrote: »

How is it arsehole to park cars outside you own house..

Let's say there are 4 adults in the house in a 2 vehicle driveway. What should they do. Leave the road clear outside in case the neighbour have visitors ? It's a public road.....

I moved to the country to get away from this nonsense. Pretend ownership of something you have no ownership over.

Oh yeah I’m not disputing they’re technically in the right if the cars are up to date with paperwork and all.

19-06-2021 10:16pm

From what you've described they're parked legally, I don't know what you expect going to the Gardai will do, once they're not actually blocking or obstructing your access to your driveway.

Fils · 19-06-2021 10:16pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

<MOD SNIP>

You’re a lovely neighbour to have.

Darc19 · 19-06-2021 10:17pm

As another poster said, reverse into your driveway.

Far far safer whether cars are parked on the road or not and once you get into the habit you will wonder why you didn't do it previously

As for neighbour parking. There is nothing you can do if there are no parking restrictions.

0ph0rce0 · 19-06-2021 10:17pm

Fils wrote: »

You’re a lovely neighbour to have.

Was just going to post that about myself. :pac:

19-06-2021 10:17pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

<MOD SNIP>.

I think there’s a video of your family on South William St doing the rounds.

0ph0rce0 · 19-06-2021 10:19pm

I'm hardly serious now people :rolleyes:

TheW1zard · 19-06-2021 10:20pm

OP widen your driveway ;-)

listermint · 19-06-2021 10:22pm

After 3 pages these usually descend into after hours territory...

embraer170 · 19-06-2021 10:23pm

frag420 wrote: »

Surely just tax so long as you’re not driving it no!?

Any car parked on public space needs tax, insurance and an NCT.

stopthevoting · 19-06-2021 10:23pm

frag420 wrote: »

Surely just tax so long as you’re not driving it no!?

This is not correct. This post is about parking in a public place, so Tax, Insurance and NCT are all required.

Rustyman101 · 19-06-2021 10:24pm

Funny thing about all this could generally be solved by smallest bit of consideration, but w*****s be w*****s, would not in all conscious park a big f*** off van on top of my neighbours drive ! But hey ho that's me ! Especially when there's other options 50 meters away that wouldn't impact on anybody

Marcusm · 19-06-2021 10:27pm

Fils wrote: »

Incorrect, a good camera will give left and right view. Perhaps in your car you have poor camera.

You don’t understand the laws of physics if you think reversing cameras can give clearer angles and sight lines than driving out. And before you ask I have excellent reversing cameras.

frag420 · 19-06-2021 10:28pm

Dav010 wrote: »

Where is it going to be parked?

Ah, public road, I get you!

cloneslad · 19-06-2021 10:34pm

Fils wrote: »

Do you drive a Dacia perhaps?

Just to be argumentative, the Prestige model for Dacia have overhead 360° cameras.

Not that they'd be much use to you if you have cars blocking the view of the distance anyway

Fils · 19-06-2021 10:34pm

Marcusm wrote: »

You don’t understand the laws of physics if you think reversing cameras can give clearer angles and sight lines than driving out. And before you ask I have excellent reversing cameras.

I’m sure you do, I’ll leave you in your ignorant post.

Up Donegal · 19-06-2021 10:35pm

CRI0ST0IR wrote: »

Or just buy one of those reflectors/mirrors and stick it across from the driveway entrances to see oncoming traffic.

If there are houses across the road, you would need to get permission from whoever owns the house directly opposite yours. And you might need planning permission also.

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