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The Pinter homebrew

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  • #52
    sharingan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    Or to summarise:

    10c per pint is doable with skill, yeast management, access to bulk buying of resources (bulk rates, AND skipping courier charges). You wont do it for all beer styles, and the beer will be low in strength.

    I have ignored other direct costs, such as finings, sanitiser, cleaning products, yeast nutrient etc. They wont add much, but its possible to forego them

    Raising this per-pint figure opens up the types of styles that can be attempted, the strength, and lets you put in more flavourful/indulgent options. 25c .. 50c per pint etc. We are still talking cheaper than the super saver veg section in Lidl.

    Even when you are being indulgent, your per-pint cost is a small fraction of the equivalent in the supermarket. And still way short of the consumable cost of the Pinter system (which in some cases is even higher than the equivalent supermarket product).


  • #53
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    sharingan wrote: »
    Or to summarise:

    10c per pint is doable with skill, yeast management, access to bulk buying of resources (bulk rates, AND skipping courier charges). You wont do it for all beer styles, and the beer will be low in strength.

    I have ignored other direct costs, such as finings, sanitiser, cleaning products, yeast nutrient etc. They wont add much, but its possible to forego them

    Raising this per-pint figure opens up the types of styles that can be attempted, the strength, and lets you put in more flavourful/indulgent options. 25c .. 50c per pint etc. We are still talking cheaper than the super saver veg section in Lidl.

    Even when you are being indulgent, your per-pint cost is a small fraction of the equivalent in the supermarket. And still way short of the consumable cost of the Pinter system (which in some cases is even higher than the equivalent supermarket product).

    In fairness to the Pinter (as someone about to get one) it seems an entry level way to make homebrew with little mess or fuss.

    More entertainment than effective cost cutting - It will work out as the cost of about 100 bottles of fraziskaner for kit and stuff to make 20 pints, then almost a euro a pint (once shipping added) for follow on brews.

    Prob won't taste as good either but doubt its aimed at the serious homebrew market


  • #54
    sharingan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    FileNotFound wrote: »
    In fairness to the Pinter (as someone about to get one) it seems an entry level way to make homebrew with little mess or fuss.

    More entertainment than effective cost cutting - It will work out as the cost of about 100 bottles of fraziskaner for kit and stuff to make 20 pints, then almost a euro a pint (once shipping added) for follow on brews.

    I think someone has already done a cost analysis and the price per pint is a lot higher like 1.50+? I feel this discussion has gone full circle.


  • #55
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Not to mention off topic. Pinter-related posts only, please.

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  • #56
    hkjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭hkjohn


    FileNotFound wrote: »
    In fairness to the Pinter (as someone about to get one) it seems an entry level way to make homebrew with little mess or fuss.

    More entertainment than effective cost cutting - It will work out as the cost of about 100 bottles of fraziskaner for kit and stuff to make 20 pints, then almost a euro a pint (once shipping added) for follow on brews.

    Prob won't taste as good either but doubt its aimed at the serious homebrew market

    Think this is it in a nutshell.

    If you are going to buy a Pinter (and I did), you are not buying it because you want to save money.

    You are buy-in it because you can't be bothered with the complex kerfuffle that goes with what someone up the page called "real" home brewing.

    Happy with my Pinter - so far at least.


  • #57
    boetstark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭boetstark


    Got the pinter last month.
    For time and effort I don't like it. Results are hit and miss
    The area that it is left to ferment has to stay around 18 degrees. Any variance causes poor results.
    Space taken up in fridge for cold crashes and conditioning
    I live in Limerick. I am selling it for 60 euro, as new, used twice


  • #58
    Daeltaja
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Daeltaja


    Wait, it doesn't have temp control? That would have made it a tempting combination of convenience and reliability. I have invested heavily in a homebrew setup (probably close to 2.5k) and while I love the ~5hr brew day process, I am keen to find something cheap that allows me to 'set-and-forget' to test new recipes before scaling them up to 23L or so. Not that the Pinter is suited to that anyway.


  • #59
    nike319
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭nike319


    boetstark wrote: »
    Got the pinter last month.
    For time and effort I don't like it. Results are hit and miss
    The area that it is left to ferment has to stay around 18 degrees. Any variance causes poor results.
    Space taken up in fridge for cold crashes and conditioning
    I live in Limerick. I am selling it for 60 euro, as new, used twice

    Have you sold this ?


  • #60
    sharingan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    Daeltaja wrote: »
    Wait, it doesn't have temp control? That would have made it a tempting combination of convenience and reliability. I have invested heavily in a homebrew setup (probably close to 2.5k) and while I love the ~5hr brew day process, I am keen to find something cheap that allows me to 'set-and-forget' to test new recipes before scaling them up to 23L or so. Not that the Pinter is suited to that anyway.

    You are not going to get anything cheap that has integrated temp control. The pinter, and most entry level kit/home brew setups are aimed at novice brewers with relaxed expectations about the final product.

    You could improve the results a lot with a 2nd hand fridge and an inkbird + tube heater. But if you go that far, you might as well go the route of fermenting in a cornelius keg too (with spunding valve & float tube). Probably wont cost more than the pinter setup, and it will do the same thing (ferment & serve from the same vessel). One of the key attractions of the pinter setup is simplified dispense (no bottling, no kegs, no regulators/co2). And you get most of that with the corny setup (which will need a regulator & gas).


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  • #61
    hkjohn
    Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭hkjohn


    My experience with the Pinter's makers, The Greater Good Brewing Company, has not been great.

    First batch of beer I made with the original unit was OK, so I went ahead and bought a co-Pinter (spare barrel) and three brewing kits to lay down stocks for Euro 2020

    Unfortunately, while the co-Pinter arrived, only one of the brewing kits did and this promptly burst (a fairly common problem according to Trust Pilot consumer site). \

    Subsequently had no end of problems getting the Greater Good Brewing Company to sort matters out regarding the two kits that failed to arrive.

    The worst thing about the company is that, rather than consolidate everything in one batch, they break down orders into individual items.

    If the E6.50 An Post Address Pal delivery charge for each item isn't bad enough, Greater Good frequently print the full value of shipments on the individual item packages meaning that you may have to pay customs charges more than once

    Given the e26 I paid in An Post delivery fees and the E34 I paid in customs charges (E19 of it a duplicate charge) my outgoings for a pinter brewing unit, spare barrel and four kits came to E242 - about E6 per pint.

    While that cost will obviously drop when - actually more a case of if - I order and brew more kits, you'll still be way better off buying booze in the pub or offie


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