Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

quokula · 27-05-2021 04:16PM

A couple of other things changed in 2021, in that there was less testing mileage preseason, but also the practice sessions at each weekend are shorter than before. I'm not sure if the budget caps will have limited simulator time too.

We've seen this with a number of drivers. Ricciardo and Alonso have really struggled uncharacteristically. Rookies like Tsunoda and Mazepin have been dreadful - Mick Schumacher is coping better than Mazepin but who knows where he'd stand relative to a Grosjean or Magnussen. Perez continues to struggle in qualifying and although he's better on Sunday, he's still miles away from his teammate.

Vettel and Sainz seem to be the only drivers who've really gotten on top of things, Vettel taking slightly longer which is understandable given that his car spent almost the entirety of testing and a couple of the early season practice sessions broken down so he had way fewer laps than anyone else to get acclimatised. Sainz has basically been on the pace from day one. I don't know if the fact that he signed to Ferrari so early last year helped him get a head start in the simulator or anything, or maybe it's just a comfortable car to jump into from the McLaren.

El_Duderino 09 · 27-05-2021 04:33PM

quokula wrote: »

A couple of other things changed in 2021, in that there was less testing mileage preseason, but also the practice sessions at each weekend are shorter than before. I'm not sure if the budget caps will have limited simulator time too.

We've seen this with a number of drivers. Ricciardo and Alonso have really struggled uncharacteristically. Rookies like Tsunoda and Mazepin have been dreadful - Mick Schumacher is coping better than Mazepin but who knows where he'd stand relative to a Grosjean or Magnussen. Perez continues to struggle in qualifying and although he's better on Sunday, he's still miles away from his teammate.

Vettel and Sainz seem to be the only drivers who've really gotten on top of things, Vettel taking slightly longer which is understandable given that his car spent almost the entirety of testing and a couple of the early season practice sessions broken down so he had way fewer laps than anyone else to get acclimatised. Sainz has basically been on the pace from day one. I don't know if the fact that he signed to Ferrari so early last year helped him get a head start in the simulator or anything, or maybe it's just a comfortable car to jump into from the McLaren.

I think there's a cap on wind tunnel time and runs (and the computer generated version where they simulate a wind tunnel called Computerised Fluid Dynamics, (CFD)). But I don't think there's any limit on the time Ricciardo can spend in the mclaren simulator.

Sainz has been close to leclerc, but he's not on leclercs pace yet. He's probably closer than some people ever expected him to get to leclerc (doubly impressive when you consider how far the other driver who moved teams are from their teammates) but I think leclerc is still in charge of that battle.

Vettel has had 2 good weekends in a row out of 5. Not bad, but not really an indication of how he's doing. Monaco was very good result but the track is so unsuitable it doesn't give a clear indication of anything. If he can consistently beat stroll then that's a good sign that his form funk could be over. Consistency has been one of his big problems in the last few years so we'll have to wait and see how he does in the coming weekends.

AMKC · 01-06-2021 12:50PM

I know there is a thread somewhere on Hamilton but can't be arsed to go look now so if a moderator wants to move this they are welcome too,

Hamiltons love life seems to be none exist since Nicole Scherzinger. So who do you think would be a good match for him.

Here is two options I think would be good,

1) Naomi Osaka: but maybe she might be a bit young

2) Katie Taylor: but had on Irish mammy on FB say no just no but no idea why.

So who would make a good pairing with him?

duploelabs · 01-06-2021 02:46PM

AMKC wrote: »

I know there is a thread somewhere on Hamilton but can't be arsed to go look now so if a moderator wants to move this they are welcome too,

Hamiltons love life seems to be none exist since Nicole Scherzinger. So who do you think would be a good match for him.

Here is two options I think would be good,

1) Naomi Osaka: but maybe she might be a bit young

2) Katie Taylor: but had on Irish mammy on FB say no just no but no idea why.

So who would make a good pairing with him?

Who cares what's happening in his love life, completely irrelevant to the sport

Joeface · 01-06-2021 02:57PM

Only Alpine Have confirmed so far that they have Updates to the car for BAKU , hopefully to make them as competitive as they were suppose to be in Monaco .

klose · 01-06-2021 03:14PM

Are we excited for Baku? Will we get a back marker podium like stroll for Williams? Or a driver ramming his teammate up his arse ala redbull?

Jordan 199 · 01-06-2021 03:19PM

klose wrote: »

Are we excited for Baku? Will we get a back marker podium like stroll for Williams? Or a driver ramming his teammate up his arse ala redbull?

I most certainly am! What about you Miroslav?

Starlord_01 · 01-06-2021 03:19PM

klose wrote: »

Are we excited for Baku? Will we get a back marker podium like stroll for Williams? Or a driver ramming his teammate up his arse ala redbull?

Hopefully - some controversy would be great

El_Duderino 09 · 01-06-2021 03:38PM

Joeface wrote: »

Only Alpine Have confirmed so far that they have Updates to the car for BAKU , hopefully to make them as competitive as they were suppose to be in Monaco .

Renault started very poor last year and they brought little incremental improvements to every race. By half way through the season they were pretty competitive and much more competitive than the first few races.

Wouldn't be surprised if they took the same approach again this year.

Joeface · 01-06-2021 03:50PM

First Power circuit this year as well really , should make interesting in Qualifying as well

Frank Bullitt · 01-06-2021 05:24PM

Joeface wrote: »

First Power circuit this year as well really , should make interesting in Qualifying as well

Thos flexi wings will really come in handy :pac:

Frank Bullitt · 01-06-2021 06:17PM

I was always afraid I was sounding old when I would say I preferred the V10/V8 era cars. But this video kinda confirms it. Older cars were to much sharper on corner entry, we basically have limos now.

barryribs · 02-06-2021 11:11AM

Just finished listening to beyond the grid with Roberto Moreno, bizarre to say the least.

One More Toy · 02-06-2021 11:22AM

Hello all

Just wondering if someone with a proper sky sub, could you find out for me when this Sunday's race will be replayed in full? Have to drop the missus somewhere around that time

Tia
Omt

Jordan 199 · 02-06-2021 11:29AM

barryribs wrote: »

Just finished listening to beyond the grid with Roberto Moreno, bizarre to say the least.

He drove mostly awful crap in F1, with the Andrea Moda being the most crappiest.

barryribs · 02-06-2021 11:34AM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

He drove mostly awful crap in F1, with the Andrea Moda being the most crappiest.

Not so much his career, but his emotional state. There seemed to be quite a bit of editing too so I can only assume that he went off track. Tom Clarkson didn't even get to ask his mandatory 'How good is Lewis' question

Hijpo · 02-06-2021 11:47AM

One More Toy wrote: »

Hello all

Just wondering if someone with a proper sky sub, could you find out for me when this Sunday's race will be replayed in full? Have to drop the missus somewhere around that time

Tia
Omt

11:55pm Sunday night I think

One More Toy · 02-06-2021 11:56AM

Hijpo wrote: »

11:55pm Sunday night I think

Thanks a mill!

Zookey123 · 02-06-2021 12:10PM

Should be interesting to see how Perez performs here. Historically been a very good track for him putting a midfield team like Force India on the front row in 2016 and getting 2 podiums out of 4 races there. Be great to see him out quali Max again!

flazio · 02-06-2021 05:06PM

barryribs wrote: »

Just finished listening to beyond the grid with Roberto Moreno, bizarre to say the least.

Think I'll skip this one so.

It's a wonder they haven't been able to get a hold of Eddie Irvine as yet. I'm sure it's not from lack of trying from the podcast producers end.

flazio · 02-06-2021 06:14PM

That's the point I'm making. It's more likely that Eddie is refusing to talk rather than Beyond the Grid refusing to reach out. I don't know who the producer is but I bet Eddie is somewhere near the top of their wishlist.

Faugheen · 02-06-2021 11:26PM

Any F1/motorsport podcast worth its salt will be trying to get Eddie Irvine. He just doesn't talk that often.

AMKC · 03-06-2021 04:34PM

https://www.f1authentics.com/f1-memorabilia-shop/by-category/f1-re-engineered-car-parts/?features_hash=3-99-4392-GBP

Maybe some here will find them interesting and can afford them but for me they are all out of my budget even the ones for 250 or 300 euro are a lot of money for what they are.

I must say do the the Lotus gear and layshift lamp is nice.

Harika · 03-06-2021 05:22PM

AMKC wrote: »

https://www.f1authentics.com/f1-memorabilia-shop/by-category/f1-re-engineered-car-parts/?features_hash=3-99-4392-GBP

Maybe some here will find them interesting and can afford them but for me they are all out of my budget even the ones for 250 or 300 euro are a lot of money for what they are.

I must say do the the Lotus gear and layshift lamp is nice.

We should chip in together for a Lewis item and then raffle it amongst each other. . . .

Jordan 199 · 03-06-2021 09:21PM

I got into a bidding war for a 1991 Jordan sponsor top on Ebay a good few years ago. I had a maximum bid I was prepared to pay, but that went out the window when emotion took over. I won the aucton, but it was stressful.

Adamocovic · 03-06-2021 10:42PM

Sorry if posted already (from 4 days ago).

But did enjoy this video from F1 on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP6agOI4xwQ

Asked if they could have a 3rd driver on their team who would it be. Toto named Russell without a skipping a beat. Seems quite clear Ocon isn't in the running as much as they previously let on.

Interestingly Alpine's Marcin named Russell too. Said they're all pretty tied in, then goes "George if you're watching this and Toto hasn't come back to you yet give me a call". haha wasn't expecting that response!

Also Franz Tost, saying F1 is fighting on the race track, hope he didn't mean that alleged Scott Speed incident haha

barryribs · 04-06-2021 10:03AM

Speaking of prices;

https://www.circuitmagnycours.com/en/f1-driving-experience/

1.6 k for anyone interested in doing 3 laps in a 98 benneton or 01 prost

or 6k for a 2011 Williams
Shame its not the 99 or 00 Prost, they were much better looking cars.

flazio · 04-06-2021 11:15AM

Looking at that 3 seater reminded me of the McLaren MP4-98T two seater. I wonder if that's still knocking around anywhere.
https://twitter.com/1990sF1/status/788105050363158528?s=09

El_Duderino 09 · 04-06-2021 02:33PM

I see Singapore is off this year. Makes sense to cancel if they cant have the crowds. Same as Canada.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/14047/12324888/singapore-gp-cancelled-for-second-year-in-a-row-due-to-covid-19-restrictions-with-alternative-options-on-table

duploelabs · 04-06-2021 02:39PM

flazio wrote: »

Looking at that 3 seater reminded me of the McLaren MP4-98T two seater. I wonder if that's still knocking around anywhere.
https://twitter.com/1990sF1/status/788105050363158528?s=09

Wasn't it Minardi who had the first to have the two seater F1 car?

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