Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

charlie14 · 27-05-2021 10:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

For individual countries Cfr is useless. Not least because testing criteria varies massively country to country and at different time periods within countries

Individual countries CFR is more useless than a universal IFR based on guesstimates ?

27-05-2021 10:13PM

MOR316 wrote: »

We were told that in sex ed...

I can safely say about 99% of the population ignored that

I hope you are 50 or older, else we have different viral issues if 99% ignored sex ed.

27-05-2021 10:16PM

charlie14 wrote: »

Individual countries CFR is more useless than a universal IFR based on guesstimates ?

Yes. Cfrs are purely based on the consistency of the testing system, calculated ifr’s are based on valid statistical studies.

Sobit1964 · 27-05-2021 10:17PM

MOR316 wrote: »

We were told that in sex ed...

I can safely say about 99% of the population ignored that

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/dear-prudence-mask-coronavirus-fear-sex.html

My Husband Won’t Take His Mask Off—Even for Sex
We’re both vaccinated now. When will this stop?

Some didnt.

MOR316 · 27-05-2021 10:22PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/dear-prudence-mask-coronavirus-fear-sex.html

Some didnt.

Rubber mask

MOR316 · 27-05-2021 10:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hope you are 50 or older, else we have different viral issues if 99% ignored sex ed.

I've been round the block a few times yes

Beechwoodspark · 27-05-2021 10:24PM

Did anyone see prime time they had an interview with the head of the daa and ppl who work in dublin airport

They seem absolutely tone deaf to the risks of the virus even still. All this talk of open up open up when we have a very tricky situation at the moment with the Indian virus

27-05-2021 10:26PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/dear-prudence-mask-coronavirus-fear-sex.html

Some didnt.

That link cheered me up no end, what with the 40 year olds who refuse to lose their virginity and the employee who wants to tell the boss it’s him that doesn’t flush the toilet

charlie14 · 27-05-2021 10:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. Cfrs are purely based on the consistency of the testing system, calculated ifr’s are based on valid statistical studies.

If that is how you see it fair enough.
For myself I cannot see how IFR is a more valid statistical study where one of the two components to determine the rate is an estimated value.

Silentcorner · 27-05-2021 10:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Find the stadium guidelines absolutely ridiculous. 5000 people in Croke Park in August. Embarrassing, honestly. Embarrassing.

I know that is has been alluded to before, but it's important to keep repeating it...

We have witnessed the weakest Government Cabinet in our history, most of whom are only ministers because of geography and gender, outsource the running of this country to a bunch of unelected, highly paid health bureaucrats (from the most dysfunctional health system in Europe) whose only gear is to treat all of us like infants for as long as they are allowed.

We have had to endure the longest strictest lock down in Europe and we will face the slowest reopening.

There isn't a nation in Europe who have treated their citizens so appallingly, and yet you still have people supporting their actions.

It beggars belief...we have all seen huge crowds in stadiums and sporting events every where at this stage....we all witnessed the massive BLM protests a year ago.

Are we all supposed to pretend we haven't seen what is happening in other countries all around us...like we are to pretend there isn't a seasonal factor, or that there is little danger outdoors, or that asymptomatic people don't spread the virus, all of which makes at least half the restrictions redundant.

We are an embarrassment.

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-05-2021 10:28PM

I said to my 19 year old daughter that she will probably be too old for nightclubs when they open again

Didn't find it funny

MOR316 · 27-05-2021 10:28PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

I know that is has been alluded to before, but it's important to keep repeating it...

We have witnessed the weakest Government Cabinet in our history, most of whom are only ministers because of geography and gender, outsource the running of this country to a bunch of unelected, highly paid health bureaucrats (from the most dysfunctional health system in Europe) whose only gear is to treat all of us like infants for as long as they are allowed.

We have had to endure the longest strictest lock down in Europe and we will face the slowest reopening.

There isn't a nation on this Europe who have treated their citizens so appallingly, and yet you still have people supporting their actions.

It beggars belief...we have all seen huge crowds in stadiums and sporting events every where at this stage....we all witnessed the massive BLM protests a year ago.

Are we all supposed to pretend we haven't seen what is happening in other countries all around us...like we are to pretend there isn't a seasonal factor, or that there is little danger outdoors, or that asymptomatic people don't spread the virus which makes at least half the restrictions redundant.

We are an embarrassment.

On the bright side, reading these threads the last while explains to me how they keep getting voted in.

Itssoeasy · 27-05-2021 10:29PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I said to my 19 year old daughter that she will probably be too old for nightclubs when they open again

Didn't find it funny

Was it meant to be funny ?

Dickie10 · 27-05-2021 10:29PM

is anyone any confidence that Tony and NYPHET wont want to shut down hospitality in november- march this winter? they will try it especially sometime coming up to xmas with all the drink fuelled parties, 12 pubs etc.

27-05-2021 10:30PM

charlie14 wrote: »

If that is how you see it fair enough.
For myself I cannot see how IFR is a more valid statistical study where one of the two components to determine the rate is an estimated value.

An estimation is better than a known incorrect figure

ACitizenErased · 27-05-2021 10:30PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What’s embarrasing about it? We need to minimise the risks here

What part of sitting in an outdoor stadium is risky? Nonsense, absolute nonsense.

Beechwoodspark · 27-05-2021 10:30PM

What people are failing to recognise or acknowledge is that we are in a very tricky situation at the moment with the India variant

There’s uncertainty and risk there

The govt and nphet are correct to tread slowly and carefully here

Dr. Bre · 27-05-2021 10:32PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I said to my 19 year old daughter that she will probably be too old for nightclubs when they open again

Didn't find it funny

What are nightclubs ?

27-05-2021 10:32PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

is anyone any confidence that Tony and NYPHET wont want to shut down hospitality in november- march this winter? they will try it especially sometime coming up to xmas with all the drink fuelled parties, 12 pubs etc.

Due the the virus having a reproduction number of 3, the 12 pubs will be reduced to less than 4

namloc1980 · 27-05-2021 10:32PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

There’s minimise the risk and there’s 5,000 people in an 82,000 capacity stadium which is far too cautious.

And cinemas will open on the 7th June! Yet a cavernous outdoor stadium will be allowed just 6% capacity and only in 3 months time. It'd be funny if it wasn't so serious.

ACitizenErased · 27-05-2021 10:32PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What people are failing to recognise or acknowledge is that we are in a very tricky situation at the moment with the India variant

There’s uncertainty and risk there

The govt and nphet are correct to tread slowly and carefully here

Ah would ya stop, indian variant changes nothing. There's no uncertainty. Vaccines work against it.

27-05-2021 10:32PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/dear-prudence-mask-coronavirus-fear-sex.html

Some didnt.

Article from last year hse advice

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/have-sex-online-to-limit-spread-of-virus-advises-hse-39417584.html

Wonder how this will be viewed in the future when the postmortem is being done. Wonder also if birth rate is down or up. During electricity strike before there was a baby boom they say but couldn’t see it this time. Still nicest news I’ve heard during covid is a few women I know who’ve had babies. Life still going on.

Sobit1964 · 27-05-2021 10:32PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What people are failing to recognise or acknowledge is that we are in a very tricky situation at the moment with the India variant

There’s uncertainty and risk there

The govt and nphet are correct to tread slowly and carefully here

No they arent.

27-05-2021 10:33PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What people are failing to recognise or acknowledge is that we are in a very tricky situation at the moment with the India variant

There’s uncertainty and risk there

The govt and nphet are correct to tread slowly and carefully here

One thing I agree with people here on is that there is no evidence the Indian variant is of any real concern in the medium term.

Silentcorner · 27-05-2021 10:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ah would ya stop, indian variant changes nothing. There's no uncertainty. Vaccines work against it.

You're dealing with another one of those types who believe we need to stay in lock down to prevent another lock down....the hamster wheel of fear and hysteria working like clockwork!

ACitizenErased · 27-05-2021 10:34PM

There is no logical reasoning why the rest of Europe can return to stadiums now and we must wait until August, with max of 5000 in a 80,000 seater stadium. Dillusional.

MOR316 · 27-05-2021 10:35PM

There's a Thai variant in the UK now...

So that's the Chinese, Indian and Thai variant...

What's next? The street food market variant?

Sobit1964 · 27-05-2021 10:36PM

gansi wrote: »

Article from last year hse advice

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/have-sex-online-to-limit-spread-of-virus-advises-hse-39417584.html

Wonder how this will be viewed in the future when the postmortem is being done. Wonder also if birth rate is down or up. During electricity strike before there was a baby boom they say but couldn’t see it this time. Still nicest news I’ve heard during covid is a few women I know who’ve had babies. Life still going on.

Birthrates are dramatically down, on the back of already falling fertility.

My third is due in 3 months, bonafide covid baby.

PhoneMain · 27-05-2021 10:37PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

That's not him either.

And yet again, it is not my theory, it is what happens with viral infections every year, ask any doctor.

Who are you hanging all our opinions off Nphet?

What happened in January 2021 does not happen every year. The hospitals are overcrowded but that's from multiple types of illnesses. In January 2021 they nearly filled overnight from 1 type of illness.

MOR316 · 27-05-2021 10:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There is no logical reasoning why the rest of Europe can return to stadiums now and we must wait until August, with max of 5000 in a 80,000 seater stadium. Dillusional.

There is...It's called power.

People can deny it all they want but it's true. Once you have power, you do not want to let go of it.

It's not a "conspiracy theory" at all, it's true in any walk of life.

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