Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Marty Bird wrote: »

No that haven’t they’re still on track to proceed with opening, they had planned to open more earlier on their roadmap but decided not too.

Eh? They had planned to open more earlier but decided not too. Ergo, it has stalled.

Parachutes wrote: »

I couldn’t care less what Wales do.

You just care about Tony Holohan getting turned on? Okay.

Parachutes wrote: »

there’s a massive cohort in this country who hang off the government’s every word and are obsessed with case numbers, variants the lot. The media fawn over them to, we must have one of the most compliant media in the western world.

It's very uncomfortable to witness how easily the masses are conditioned.

Do you remember last year when people were on about which Vaccine was in what stage of the process, phase 2 or phase 3 or whatever.....during that time variants were all over the place (this virus has been mutating from the very start) but nobody cared about variants then...

Then we got our first confirmed vaccine, a few days after the US election and within a few weeks we were getting details about variants of concern, the Kent Variant, the UK variant, etc...here in Ireland we got a "new virus" back in February which turned out to be complete nonsense, as most of here predicted.

And most people who go along with the charade are also paranoid about "grifters"....

And most of the people who have avoided people flogging hysteria have recognised that we don't have much excess death if at all, the virus isn't as dangerous as it was made out to be, it's doesn't transmit in the manner we were told it was, healthy people should not be tested our counted as cases, variants are not the threat they are being made out to be...and we are accused of succumbing to "grifters".

I`m hoping to go abroad this season myself, but not until I`m fully vaccinated and the level of vaccination of the country I would go too.

Will you use the UK as a travel corridor if the Irish government only officially allows travel to the UK?

gozunda wrote: »

Hi Pretty :pac:

Google it. Not posting details here. But yeah were still in the midst of a global pandemic. And surprise- its in the news!

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. But no matter.

Lol. Pretty sure I meant

gozunda wrote: »

What news was that Parachutes?

Not too sure if international concern has been ditched just yet...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57067190

Though thanks for the heads up - that the only country that variants of concern are an issue is here

Someone best tell Boris next door ...

I’m really not sure what you mean.

growleaves wrote: »

Right but don't the Irish government still deem it illegal to travel to foreign climes without a reason?

You can go to the UK and then escape to an EU country I suppose.

No. You are breaking no law by travelling. You are going against 'public health advice'. But can take that advice on board and choose to ignore it without consequence.

growleaves wrote: »

Ah now I see what you're saying. You mean the autumn-winter lockdowns after the end of the summer. Portugal went back into lockdown on 31 October 2020.

People were fleeing lockdowns - not 'rising case numbers' - since they didn't want to be trapped in a foreign country when it slammed shut and they would have to be indoors.

Did you see the photographs of thousands of motorists back up for miles trying to flee Paris when the authorities shut it down?

It is not 'the microbes' who ban trade and movement in entire cities and countries and lots of people have no fear of getting sick, they simply must dodge Soviet-like shutdowns.

I`m really failing to see the sense or logic.
What reason were prople fleeing lockdowns other than lockdowns being imposed due to rising numbers



Do you believe those countries that were part of that 2020 E.U. green zone initiative had some kind of devious plan to lure tourists into their countries just to watch them scramble to get home by going into lockdown just for the craic.


I know the British and French have no great love for each other, but even for the French that would be extreme.

Silentcorner wrote: »

There was a load of variants floating around last summer when we had no vaccines and there wasn't a jot of pressure on our health system.

There are loads around now too. Some are being monitored more closely as they are 'variants of concern'.

Junglejoe wrote: »

It is not normal human behaviour to travel around wearing a mask

The people saying it is normal are the abnormal ones

Who is saying it is normal?

Silentcorner wrote: »

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And most people who go along with the charade are also paranoid about "grifters"....

If laughing at their nonsense is paranoid, then I suppose yeah.

Specifically which "grifters" do you follow?

Cook book author with Ms Graph skills, is he one?

Silentcorner wrote: »

It's very uncomfortable to witness how easily the masses are conditioned.

Do you remember last year when people were on about which Vaccine was in what stage of the process, phase 2 or phase 3 or whatever.....during that time variants were all over the place (this virus has been mutating from the very start) but nobody cared about variants then...

Then we got our first confirmed vaccine, a few days after the US election and within a few weeks we were getting details about variants of concern, the Kent Variant, the UK variant, etc...here in Ireland we got a "new virus" back in February which turned out to be complete nonsense, as most of here predicted.

And most people who go along with the charade are also paranoid about "grifters"....

And most of the people who have avoided people flogging hysteria have recognised that we don't have much excess death if at all, the virus isn't as dangerous as it was made out to be, it's doesn't transmit in the manner we were told it was, healthy people should not be tested our counted as cases, variants are not the threat they are being made out to be...and we are accused of succumbing to "grifters".

Looks like you may have spent too much time here complaining about lockdown and promoting the Barrington Declaration and John Ionannidis and not enough following vaccine trials. They were carried out in countries with high incidents of Covid. Countries at the time where there would have been greater risks of variants of concern developing.


I`m not in the least bit paranoid about, as you termed them earlier "unethical grifters", but when they make themselves obvious it`s not that difficult to recognise them. As I said, I would not classify all that have shown themselves as such where Covid is concerned for monetary reasons, but for the two mentioned there is a bit of a whiff off them through association.



I could repost the monthly statistics from Eurostat on excess deaths which shows much higher levels in the months that coincide with peaks of the various Covid waves, but I would most likely be wasting my time as you would ignore them anyway.
If you really are interested you can find the post easily enough.

charlie14 wrote: »

They were carried out in countries with high incidents of Covid. Countries at the time where there would have been greater risks of variants of concern developing.

Oh ya...really?...what vaccines were developed in Brazil, India, South Africa and Kent or Lombardy (which if memory serves me right was suggested to be one of the variants we got back in March 2020)?

This virus will mutate, like all viruses, we just became obsessed with variants right after the first vaccine was announced back in November?

Maybe....just maybe, the vaccines were developed in the medical facilities owned by the Parent Companies who participated in the development of vaccines?

I wish it was someone else who asked and now gets 'plaudits' for questioning rather than Sarah Carey. A horrible journalist and a hypocrite at every turn.

Penfailed wrote: »

There are loads around now too. Some are being monitored more closely as they are 'variants of concern'.

I guess scaremongering works, Sage did a good job anyhow deja vu :pac:



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