Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

PTH2009

hynesie08 wrote: »

Giz a list of these "pro lockdown people"

10-12 will do.

Members of NPHET
Staines
McConkey

Remember the fuss we made about the British variant, this variant could be a whole 'new new virus'

charlie14

Deleted User wrote: »

I heard Reid say today that finally case numbers and the impact of the pandemic are decoupled

At one stage you could pretty much draw a correlation between case numbers and hospitalisations a short time afterwards, but vaccines have changed that.
Case numbers will count for very little in the future unless they really go through the roof. Hospital and I.C.U. numbers will be the real metric. Same as they now are for the U.K. on moving to the next levels of reopening.

Silentcorner

So a new more transmissible variant has emerged....I gotta admit I didn't see that coming...even more transmissible than the UK variant...which was even more transmissible than the variant before that.....the Indian variant must be a super transmissible variant, is that right, or should there be another super in there somewhere....what happened to the Brazilian variant does anyone know, or the SA variant...how many variants have the Irish tested positive for since this began?

I'm enjoying the hysteria at this stage....come the winter, how many people will buy into the new super super transmissible vaccine dodging variant?

Somebody better ring the scientists in the States....the individual States are abandoning restrictions....they'll all be doomed!!!

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

Oh that's music to the pro lockdown peoples ears

Lets hope it wont cause much damage, as was said here earlier The money tree is running out and it will be hard to justify longer lockdowns with so little money

Brass tacks and political careers. The economic imperative will take precedence, keeping indoor hospitality and foreign travel on hold isn't going to stem a spiralling debt. Acceptable risk becomes the norm, one we've faced every flu season since god was a boy. Before someone chimes in with "but what about those 4,000 deaths with Covid", I would immediately fire back "where's your compassion for ten times that number who passed from non-Covid related disease over past twelve months". Mental health is another convenient blind spot for lockdown fanatics, you might as well be conversing with a brick for all the empathy they lack.

Penfailed

PTH2009 wrote: »

Oh that's music to the pro lockdown peoples ears

Ah cop on. No one is 'pro lockdown'. Everyone wants them to end.

Penfailed

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/6994480/ireland-masks-scrapped-holidays-lockdown-covid-leo-varadkar/

Can anyone summarise this article? I refuse to support gutter press like The Sun by generating advertising revenue by clicking links.

Silentcorner

Penfailed wrote: »

Can anyone summarise this article? I refuse to support gutter press like The Sun by generating advertising revenue by clicking links.

I don't blame you...these media companies are toxic, I no longer visit The Guardian for the same reasons...

Essentially, masks can be discarded for people who have been vaccinated.

Penfailed

Silentcorner wrote: »

I don't blame you...these media companies are toxic, I no longer visit The Guardian for the same reasons...

Essentially, masks can be discarded for people who have been vaccinated.

In Ireland? That's a move in the right direction.

Silentcorner

Penfailed wrote: »

In Ireland? That's a move in the right direction.

Ya it is...I'm not as convinced we will be in a hard lock down come the winter as I was last week.

I'm guessing the hysteria is part of a strategy to get as many people vaccinated as possible...

PTH2009

This Variant has the ability to be very troublesome but governments and health officials needs to be realistic, the economies simply cant afford to hide away much longer

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

Members of NPHET
Staines
McConkey

Remember the fuss we made about the British variant, this variant could be a whole 'new new virus'

Which members of nphet were pro lockdown? Who actually came out and said "I think lockdown is great"

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

Members of NPHET
Staines
McConkey

Remember the fuss we made about the British variant, this variant could be a whole 'new new virus'

Yeah, that’s it alright

Vaccinated30

Penfailed wrote: »

In Ireland? That's a move in the right direction.

No. The US. Not Ireland

"These variants" are exactly what anyone who learned about evolution at a junior cert level would expect to occur with lockdowns.

But sure let's do the hysterical "who could've possibly foreseen it" dance yet again.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

"These variants" are exactly what anyone who learned about evolution at a junior cert level would expect to occur with lockdowns.

But sure let's do the hysterical "who could've possibly foreseen it" dance yet again.

Sure isn't Ireland the most lock downed place in the solar system.

Why no Irish Variant of interest?

Deeper Blue

Boggles wrote: »

Sure isn't Ireland the most lock downed place in the solar system.

Why no Irish Variant of interest?

The Variant O'Concern

Graham

Deleted User wrote: »

"These variants" are exactly what anyone who learned about evolution at a junior cert level would expect to occur with lockdowns.

You nearly have it Cymro.

So close.

Penfailed

Vaccinated30 wrote: »

No. The US. Not Ireland

Oh...what did Leo have to say? I see his name at the end of the link.

Graham

Graham wrote: »

You nearly have it Cymro.

So close.

Utterly pointless post.

Be clear in your meaning or don’t bother.

Graham

Deleted User wrote: »

Utterly pointless post.

Be clear in your meaning or don’t bother.

Coincidentally there's a really good explanation explaining what variants are and how they happen published by the BBC this evening.

It might help clarify some of the things you might have misinterpreted about lockdowns during

Deleted User wrote: »

evolution at a junior cert level

PTH2009

The Irish Government have to take the blame about the wording of the Variants and the fear it brings

The British varant was 'a new virus' here

If this Indian Variant gets here then god knows what they could say

Graham

PTH2009 wrote: »

If this Indian Variant gets here then god knows what they could say

My guess would be something along the lines of the impact of the new variant needs to be monitored closely.

Nobody really know much about it yet, let's hope it stays obscure enough for that to continue.

gozunda

PTH2009 wrote: »

The Irish Government have to take the blame about the wording of the Variants and the fear it brings
The British varant was 'a new virus' here
If this Indian Variant gets here then god knows what they could say

Ah here you'll be blaming them for the weather next.

Variants but perhaps more accurately those variants highlighted as being of concern - by reason being more transmissible etc - are something which have affected nearly every country - including ourselves - eg see the B.1.1.7 strain that took over here after Christmas. So of course they are an issue. Even the UK are ****ting themselves over the Indian variant.

The media have of course used same to sell column inches

These are country specific media headlines over the last couple of months

https://www.thelocal.es/20210407/which-covid-variants-have-been-detected-in-spain/

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210428-contagious-and-concerning-what-we-know-about-covid-19-variants

https://www.thelocal.de/20210401/covid-19-variants-comprise-almost-90-percent-of-new-cases-in-germany/

I dont think its been much different here tbf.

M_Murphy57

Penfailed wrote: »

Oh...what did Leo have to say? I see his name at the end of the link.

Literally that we mindlessly copy what other countries do so we will probably eventually recommend that vaccinated people dont need masks, like the CDC just has.

Parachutes

Variant roulette.

Parachutes

Tony and the NPHET gang must be sighing with relief this morning on the news of the Indian “variant” think the guy is perversely turned on at the thought of being able to plunge us into level 5 again.

Stormyteacup

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Literally that we mindlessly copy what other countries do so we will probably eventually recommend that vaccinated people dont need masks, like the CDC just has.

Interesting to note that Varadkar did not mention NPHET once in his replies.

Imo a gentle undermining of NPHET by claiming we tend to follow advice from CDC ‘often what they advise is what we advise’, and that the proposal that vaccinated people may no longer need to wear masks will be examined by the HSE and likely adopted by HSPC.

He is clearly done with NPHET since he got burned last October.

Boggles

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Interesting to note that Varadkar did not mention NPHET once in his replies.

Imo a gentle undermining of NPHET by claiming we tend to follow advice from CDC ‘often what they advise is what we advise’, and that the proposal that vaccinated people may no longer need to wear masks will be examined by the HSE and likely adopted by HSPC.

He is clearly done with NPHET since he got burned last October.

He did, right before the bit you quoted, amazing you missed it.

Mr Varadkar described the CDC as the American Nphet, adding: “Often what they advise is what we advise.

Boggerman12

Boggles wrote: »

Sure isn't Ireland the most lock downed place in the solar system.

Why no Irish Variant of interest?

Open up coopers for a weekend and we’ll have a paddy variant sorted done and dusted and herd immunity.
As an aside what became of the mink variant that was going to kill us all?

Boggles

Boggerman12 wrote: »

Open up coopers for a weekend and we’ll have a paddy variant sorted done and dusted and herd immunity.
As an aside what became of the mink variant that was going to kill us all?

Mink genocide.