Munster vs Connacht, Fri 14th May 6pm; Eir Sport

testtech05 · 14-05-2021 08:42PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Stander seems to be retired.

ROC twitter

CJ Stander hugely critical of referee Dan Jones, says it was like playing against more than 15 men

"I can say it now, I'm done"

I was watching with no sound (not by choice) so didn't get an explanation for most of the penalties but too my eye he didn't seem too biased?

Squidgy Black · 14-05-2021 08:47PM

testtech05 wrote: »

I was watching with no sound (not by choice) so didn't get an explanation for most of the penalties but too my eye he didn't seem too biased?

There was a couple of calls that were 50/50ish, a knock-on that wasn't too clear that ruled out Conway's try, and the Archer knock-on was brought back to check where the mic made it sound like the ref was intent on calling it a knock-on (he wasn't really it was just the way it looked).

Didn't think he was that bad, fairly poor stuff for CJ for a departing statement

Burkie1203 · 14-05-2021 08:50PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

There was a couple of calls that were 50/50ish, a knock-on that wasn't too clear that ruled out Conway's try, and the Archer knock-on was brought back to check where the mic made it sound like the ref was intent on calling it a knock-on (he wasn't really it was just the way it looked).

Didn't think he was that bad, fairly poor stuff for CJ for a departing statement

like there was a few ruck entries midway through the 2nd half by JOD which i was surprised connacht didnt challenge too

ClanofLams · 14-05-2021 08:55PM

Munster last maul try was illegal too as Holland well in front and could easily have been picked up by tmo. Backwards pass that was leading to likely Connacht try & 24-7 scoreline ruled out although as pointed out by another poster original turnover by Connacht may have taken ball illegally from ruck.

Both sides got wrong decisions against them as happens every game but nothing to merit as strong a statement as that by Stander.

Shaka Hislop · 14-05-2021 08:56PM

testtech05 wrote: »

I was watching with no sound (not by choice) so didn't get an explanation for most of the penalties but too my eye he didn't seem too biased?

Not so much biased, just wrong on quite a few occasions...and for both sides,
For me, the most frustrating performance from a referee in quite a while

KBurke85 · 14-05-2021 08:59PM

Shaka Hislop wrote: »

Not so much biased, just wrong on quite a few occasions...and for both sides,
For me, the most frustrating performance from a referee in quite a while

You’ve never seen a match reffed by Frank Murphy then have you

Shaka Hislop · 14-05-2021 09:02PM

KBurke85 wrote: »

You’ve never seen a match reffed by Frank Murphy then have you

Plenty, why?

thomond2006 · 14-05-2021 09:07PM

Munster had every opportunity to win that game. They gifted two tries to Connacht.

14-05-2021 09:09PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Munster had every opportunity to win that game. They gifted two tries to Connacht.

Do Munster ever give youth a chance. Look at the 2nd rows conn going for youth, Munster meh

Squidgy Black · 14-05-2021 09:10PM

Damon Fluffy Tonsil wrote: »

Do Munster ever give youth a chance. Look at the 2nd rows conn going for youth, Munster meh

Munster had Casey, Healy and Daly all starting in the backs.

Sabre0001 · 14-05-2021 09:11PM

Damon Fluffy Tonsil wrote: »

Do Munster ever give youth a chance. Look at the 2nd rows conn going for youth, Munster meh

Wycherly, casey, healy, daly all played today

other players we'd like to see in action, sure but it's not like it doesn't happen

14-05-2021 09:13PM

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Munster had Casey, Healy and Daly all starting in the backs.

What about the pack ?

theVersatile · 14-05-2021 09:20PM

Damon Fluffy Tonsil wrote: »

What about the pack ?

Coombes originally in to start, withdrawn with illness.

But keep on moving the goal posts there.

Squidgy Black · 14-05-2021 09:20PM

Damon Fluffy Tonsil wrote: »

What about the pack ?

JOD who's the same age as Dillane, who was only brought in after Coombes withdrew through injury and Wycherley on the bench.

I'm not even a Munster fan and I can see it's clear they give youth a chance.

razorblunt · 14-05-2021 10:12PM

ClanofLams wrote: »

Munster last maul try was illegal too as Holland well in front and could easily have been picked up by tmo. Backwards pass that was leading to likely Connacht try & 24-7 scoreline ruled out although as pointed out by another poster original turnover by Connacht may have taken ball illegally from ruck.

Both sides got wrong decisions against them as happens every game but nothing to merit as strong a statement as that by Stander.

I wonder was it a build up of stuff from Jones over a few games and Stander thought he’ll have a pop now. He also had words after the whistle at the Ulster game.

Strumms · 14-05-2021 10:13PM

Surly a shoulder charge to a connacht players head, referee 6 meters away looking directly at it.

ClanofLams · 14-05-2021 10:16PM

razorblunt wrote: »
I wonder was it a build up of stuff from Jones over a few games and Stander thought he’ll have a pop now. He also had words after the whistle at the Ulster game.

Quite possibly as it does seem very strong reaction and maybe a bit of frustration as I’m sure he would love to end Munster career with trophy.

Zzippy · 14-05-2021 10:22PM

Ahem! We kept it to 20 points

Zzippy wrote: »

Munster just have to maul it and they'll stroll home. We'll be lucky to keep it to 20 points.

Strumms · 14-05-2021 10:27PM

What does Joy Neville be looking at ?

Zzippy · 14-05-2021 10:37PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Munster had every opportunity to win that game. They gifted two tries to Connacht.

That somehow makes it even sweeter

Akrasia · 14-05-2021 10:47PM

Zzippy wrote: »

That somehow makes it even sweeter

and rightly so. your team forced mistakes, and made us hurt. and punished our unforced errors. Thats how to win interpros

thomond2006 · 14-05-2021 11:27PM

Zzippy wrote: »

That somehow makes it even sweeter

Committing robbery in an away match is a sweet victory.

Zzippy · 15-05-2021 12:07AM

Strumms wrote: »

What does Joy Neville be looking at ?

When she's working, generally a rugby match on a tv screen. Can't speak for the rest of her time.

leakyboots · 15-05-2021 12:18AM

Enjoyed that game, despite losing. Rainbow Cup is great craic so far, games involving the Irish teams anyway.

We had enough opportunities to win it and didn't take them, idiotic penalties and errors.

Congrats Connacht!

Burkie1203 · 15-05-2021 07:59AM

https://twitter.com/echolivecork/status/1393441050937729026?s=19

thomond2006 · 15-05-2021 08:05AM

I've watched the knock on decision for the Conway try and I don't see anything clear and obvious. Munster can feel aggrieved at that one.

molloyjh · 15-05-2021 08:32AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

I've watched the knock on decision for the Conway try and I don't see anything clear and obvious. Munster can feel aggrieved at that one.

It was a tight one but of it wasn't a knock on then the ball was kicked into Archer so was accidental offside. And even if that didn't happen it was so hard to call that nobody can feel aggrieved. No team ever gets every tight call their way and if that's what they need to win games then they don't deserve to win them. That call wasn't some crazy decision thst clearly went against all evidence ending up as a wild miscarriage of justice. So Munster need to just get over it.

Shaka Hislop · 15-05-2021 09:00AM

If you give away 2 sloppy trys, and then don't keep your discipline in the game....you're giving the officials a chance to come into play, and that doesn't always end well.
This defeat is on sloppy Munster play, but that doesn't mean the officiating has to be ignored ..we deserve better, it's that simple

aloooof · 15-05-2021 09:09AM

molloyjh wrote: »

It was a tight one but of it wasn't a knock on then the ball was kicked into Archer so was accidental offside. And even if that didn't happen it was so hard to call that nobody can feel aggrieved. No team ever gets every tight call their way and if that's what they need to win games then they don't deserve to win them. That call wasn't some crazy decision thst clearly went against all evidence ending up as a wild miscarriage of justice. So Munster need to just get over it.

That’s a different incident than the one Thomond is referring to tho, no?

eclipsechaser · 15-05-2021 09:42AM

molloyjh wrote: »

It was a tight one but of it wasn't a knock on then the ball was kicked into Archer so was accidental offside. And even if that didn't happen it was so hard to call that nobody can feel aggrieved. No team ever gets every tight call their way and if that's what they need to win games then they don't deserve to win them. That call wasn't some crazy decision thst clearly went against all evidence ending up as a wild miscarriage of justice. So Munster need to just get over it.

Was there not also a Connacht hand at the breakdown searching for the ball? I couldn't see how it went forward - could have been a knock-on or a kick from Munster - but I thought it was at least possible that it was the Connacht player getting a hand to it and knocking it back towards themself.

That might be the least likely option but if it's not clear, you probably shouldn't be canceling the try.

Munster vs Connacht, Fri 14th May 6pm; Eir Sport

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