When's calving starting 2021

squinn2912 · 04-05-2021 10:23PM

Oops I was replying to whoever had the cow with the prolapse.

For the young heifer yea keep a good tight eye on her and have everything sitting ready for a section. It can happen easily when heifer and bull calves are running together and/or with stock bull. We had a whodunnit a few years back on a wee parthanese heifer. Bull calf out the side and he was massive. Wound up reserve beef store bullock champion at Christmas sale locally about 16 months later and I think made £1500 or £1550. It stunted her but she went in calf again and calved herself overnight one time. That calf was a solid bull calf but not fancy. She didn’t go in calf again and she was let on. Yours could well work out yet

patsy_mccabe · 05-05-2021 08:12AM

High bike wrote: »

Got the bad news this evening from the vet that I was expecting,he confirmed that a yearling heifer is in calf and too far gone to inject.She-ll be calving at 16/17 Mt's any advice welcome

Assume it will be a caesarean and everything from there is a big bonus. If she's roomy at the hips, has a heifer and the bull is easy calving, then the odds are more in your favour. A caesarean isn't the end of the world.

lab man · 05-05-2021 09:37AM

Lads I've a 18 yr old cow that just calved twins I'm taking 1 off her I was giving her meal there all the time only a small bit kg per day shes shook enough wat minerals or vitamins should I give her btw she wasnt ment to go in calf but ...

squinn2912 · 05-05-2021 03:34PM

Another classroom miracle! Hard to beat a big strong girl

1 to go!

tellmeabit · 05-05-2021 10:21PM

squinn2912 wrote: »

Another classroom miracle! Hard to beat a big strong girl

1 to go!

It's like when jacks army were on the go, we were allowed watch the matches in the PE hall...

Lime Tree Farm · 05-05-2021 10:51PM

lab man wrote: »

Lads I've a 18 yr old cow that just calved twins I'm taking 1 off her I was giving her meal there all the time only a small bit kg per day shes shook enough wat minerals or vitamins should I give her btw she wasnt ment to go in calf but ...

watch her for milk fever at her age. Dairy nuts - she may need a Hi mag mineral lick.

Not very old at all, we had one back in 2007 age 19, she had twins. She was 22 yrs old when she had her last calf (breaking out to the neighbour's bulls).

Claire age 19 - 2007 Male twins.jpg

Claire.jpg

squinn2912 · 05-05-2021 11:15PM

funkey_monkey wrote: »

What's your plan if you're in the classroom and one gets into difficulty calving?
Have you someone to call on?

Yea luckily my father is about it means he can work away and I keep an eye and can ring him. I can rush home if needs be when lessons are done

I don’t be glued to it like I just glance at it if a cow was calving I’d let a wee junior group watch on but it’s not happened much

Mooooo · 06-05-2021 07:01AM

And sin è, last 2 calved last night thank feck

tellmeabit · 09-05-2021 11:15AM

Calf a week old had scour. Tested and confirmed that it's CRYPTO. Have treated with for the last 2 day can't remember what's it's called a powder given once a day. Calf is getting fed 3-4 times a day. Drank cow dry last night for 1st time so should no longer need help yo get on the pap.

Giving her fresh bed but keeping her in until I k ow she is drinkkng on own
Can calf get re-infected ?
If I let them out should i keep away from the other calves?

Don't think have had a confirmed case before, but suppose it was there.

EDITING.....

SORRY THIS SHOULD HAVE SAID CRYPTO .

tanko · 09-05-2021 11:41AM

tellmeabit wrote: »

Calf a week old had scour. Tested and confirmed that it's coccidiosis. Have treated with for the last 2 day can't remember what's it's called a powder given once a day. Calf is getting fed 3-4 times a day. Drank cow dry last night for 1st time so should no longer need help yo get on the pap.

Giving her fresh bed but keeping her in until I k ow she is drinkkng on own
Can calf get re-infected ?
If I let them out should i keep away from the other calves?

Don't think have had a confirmed case before, but suppose it was there.

I’ve never seen a calf get coccidiosis, recover and get it again.
You could give all your other calves over three weeks old a dose of Vecoxan to prevent them getting it. Isolating one cow and calf would be a nuisance.
Had a six week old calf with it here this week.

whelan2 · 09-05-2021 11:41AM

A week old is very young to get coccidiosis. Would it have been crypto?

tanko · 09-05-2021 11:44AM

Just seen the week old bit, it can’t be coccidiosis under 21 days afaik.

TooOldBoots · 09-05-2021 02:22PM

Sounds like Crypto, Vets are plagued with calves going down with it over the last few weeks. The hot days followed by night frost has made young calves vulnerable

tellmeabit · 09-05-2021 02:30PM

whelan2 wrote: »

A week old is very young to get coccidiosis. Would it have been crypto?

Sorry ya, crypto. I think I might have a does of it myself. I'm all over the shop today.

tellmeabit · 09-05-2021 02:34PM

Halocur was the treatment

squinn2912 · 09-05-2021 03:40PM

tellmeabit wrote: »

Halocur was the treatment

Yea that’s for crypto. Horrrible thing a drop calf took it in here last year and gave it to 2 others. I’m not convinced a couple more didn’t get it months later despite very thorough washing

tellmeabit · 09-05-2021 04:32PM

I've none to calf for couple months. Didn't clean out after the previous 2, mistake. Just wondering what's best course of action. Will clean out shed when I let this girl out. I suppose monitor her and see how she is. Poo is more solid today, still yellow

mr.stonewall · 09-05-2021 05:01PM

tellmeabit wrote: »

I've none to calf for couple months. Didn't clean out after the previous 2, mistake. Just wondering what's best course of action. Will clean out shed when I let this girl out. I suppose monitor her and see how she is. Poo is more solid today, still yellow

Outdoors outdoors for calving is the best way of preventing crypto. If cows can be keep out, it will give them a chance to clean off and the calf will have less chance of ingesting dung. Had an outbreak a few years ago and moved calving to April. Cows out during the day in an acre of bare ground marked for reseeding. In at night for grub. Had only 25% calved indoors, but bedding is changed in calving pens after each calf and a power wash and disinfecting with kenocox once a week.

tellmeabit · 09-05-2021 07:34PM

I'd be same normally or even calf them in and straight out to field then. But this one is in cos I used DEP bull and wasn't sure what to expect when calving. Not sure I'll put them out this week now after seeing the forecast either.
When it comes to selling at the end of the year i think it pays to valve them earlier. Calved here starting March so i could let them out after calving. No way could let them out any earlier here.

Should older calves already out get treated now?

tanko · 09-05-2021 09:12PM

tellmeabit wrote: »

I'd be same normally or even calf them in and straight out to field then. But this one is in cos I used DEP bull and wasn't sure what to expect when calving. Not sure I'll put them out this week now after seeing the forecast either.
When it comes to selling at the end of the year i think it pays to valve them earlier. Calved here starting March so i could let them out after calving. No way could let them out any earlier here.

Should older calves already out get treated now?

No, the older ones outside should be ok now, that’s not to say there’s no chance of them getting it but it’s unlikely, just keep an eye on them.
Coccidiosis is a bigger threat with the older calves that are out imo.

Dozer1 · 09-05-2021 10:26PM

Had 3 weanlings scanned in calf a few weeks ago.. first one yesterday she was very obliging pushed calf as far as she could but no way calf was comin out. Section done and dusted in an hour and I think I'll have customer for the calf decent CH bull would he be work 200? She wouldn't be able to feed him for long

tellmeabit · 10-05-2021 12:16AM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Had 3 weanlings scanned in calf a few weeks ago.. first one yesterday she was very obliging pushed calf as far as she could but no way calf was comin out. Section done and dusted in an hour and I think I'll have customer for the calf decent CH bull would he be work 200? She wouldn't be able to feed him for long

Normal sized calf?

tellmeabit · 10-05-2021 12:18AM

tanko wrote: »

No, the older ones outside should be ok now, that’s not to say there’s no chance of them getting it but it’s unlikely, just keep an eye on them.
Coccidiosis is a bigger threat with the older calves that are out imo.

Ya was scanning the field this evening for colour. Few white poops and grey. Will try watching them better tomorrow see who's is whos

Dozer1 · 10-05-2021 09:43AM

fine sized calf no way butty

tellmeabit · 10-05-2021 10:39AM

Had a heifer calf at around 18 -20 months I think. Reared calf and went on to produce a total of 14, only sold her as she has horns and was a liable to get caught in some of the feeding barriers with them.i was working in another county at the time. Came into milk too.1st to calf every year. She was never the tallest cow but kept producing
Your not tempted to keep them together?

Dozer1 · 10-05-2021 11:59AM

nope no interest, I've too many calved/to calved as it is, need to reduce numbers a bit so this one would be a headache. Her Dam had bad feet aswell so wouldn't be one for keeping

High bike · 11-05-2021 10:58AM

Thats it for the year except for 2 pb's end of June

Sami23 · 11-05-2021 11:03AM

High bike wrote: »

Thats it for the year except for 2 pb's end of June

Nice to get to end of it alright.

I'd be finished here myself only for 1 cow that slipped from calving in April last year to only being due end of June this year

Vet checked her and couldn't find any reason for it. She was running with Bull.

Albert Johnson · 11-05-2021 11:26AM

Dozer1 wrote: »

fine sized calf no way butty

If it's an average type CH calf I think you're under valuing him at €200 tbh. Granted he's out of a heifer as opposed to a mature cow but I'd reckon he's worth nearer to €300. I don't think you'd be robbing anyone at that price and he'd cover the price of the section. Best of luck with the other 2 and hopefully you'll have more successful outcomes.

squinn2912 · 11-05-2021 12:44PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

If it's an average type CH calf I think you're under valuing him at €200 tbh. Granted he's out of a heifer as opposed to a mature cow but I'd reckon he's worth nearer to €300. I don't think you'd be robbing anyone at that price and he'd cover the price of the section. Best of luck with the other 2 and hopefully you'll have more successful outcomes.

Absolutely fully agree. God he should be worth the price of the section no bother

When's calving starting 2021

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