Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ireland could not be in the CTA with the UK and in Schengen also. That is why they opted out. There was nothing "hush hush" about it. You might not have been aware what was going on yourself, but that probably isn't a good yardstick of something being kept secret

I’m not talking about the Schengen Opt Out (actually Opt in) which I’m well aware of and have posted on but the case by case decisions on each piece of legislation which are never announced and it seems not debated in the Dáil.

You might agree the public would like to know if we had the option to partake in legislation on travel from outside the EU.

“” Taoiseach Micheál Martin said that as he looked to July and beyond, he wanted to see aviation, tourism and all hospitality businesses back doing "what they do better than anyone else on earth".””

votecounts wrote: »

First of all, I've been pro restriction and in favour of MHQ. How Israel was on the list and India will just be put in a few hours is a mystery. Surely there will be a lot of angry people if people outside the EU can travel in to Ireland with vaccines without restriction and on the other hand Irish people cannot go anywhere.
Any idea when the US will lift restrictions on Europeans, surely any agreement should work both ways

US might lift restrictions for europeans mid May, there’s talk of it anyway. But i’d expect you’ll need to be fully vaccinated is my bet.

votecounts wrote: »

First of all, I've been pro restriction and in favour of MHQ. How Israel was on the list and India will just be put in a few hours is a mystery. Surely there will be a lot of angry people if people outside the EU can travel in to Ireland with vaccines without restriction and on the other hand Irish people cannot go anywhere.
Any idea when the US will lift restrictions on Europeans, surely any agreement should work both ways

The bit in bold. The misfit in me almost wants that to happen.
It’d be the perfect ammunition to showcase the absolute buffoonery occurring in both the government and NPHET.

Additionally it’d offer great entertainment for me seeing how diehard supporters and the media (especially RTE) would wriggle and squirm with their cognitive dissonance and still broadcast their unhinged continued support for European and Irish residents MHQ .

Del Griffith wrote: »

****ing headbangers. And again the conspiracy theorists will be owed an apology.

To think there's fruitcakes out there that'd be up for Ireland doing the same thing..

These fruitcakes don’t see the big picture at all.

Australia and new Zealand have self sustaining economies and do not need an open economy or inbound/outbound tourism.

Australians are able to travel freely within their own country which is 2500 miles width and 2300 miles length. In contrast , Ireland is 175 miles width and 300 miles length. We would be living in a complete island virtual prison.

Australia and new Zealand have already made an attempt to travel corridor between themselves and it’s likely they’ll try that again in the near future. Our fruitcakes were suggesting recently that we make it impossible to access our nearest trading island UK. It’d take a very special kind of stupid to manufacture that kind of situation in their head and not see how futile it’d be.

Australia and new Zealand have displayed a proactive intent to reintroduce normality to their citizens once the initial covid outbreaks have been subdued. Example, they abolished social distancing , masks , opened their social outlets and sports etc. Just look at the contrast to here in Ireland. It’d be years of isolation and restrictions in our afore mentioned prison.

Btw , I don’t support what the Australians nor kiwis are doing to their citizens either. It’s completely disproportionate to the risk considering the impacts of covid on their population post vaccine roll out would be so very minimal. It’s just our own zero covid pushers are an extremely fringe and potentially dangerous element that should be highlighted as such.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40280642.html

Contact tracer leaks details of 250 flights with positive Covid cases

The media will print any old crap to satisfy the anti travel mob. I'd say the information from this individual is pretty sketchy, and they've even gone so far to print their opinion on how the transmission occured. They really are stooping to new lows to scare people these days...

dalyboy wrote: »

Australia and new Zealand have already made an attempt to travel corridor between themselves and it’s likely they’ll try that again in the near future.

is that travel corridor not still in operation?

General Toilet wrote: »

Nope. It lasted 3 or 4 days.

Are you sure?

I think if you checked there's been plenty of flights from Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane to NZ over the last few weeks. No problem.

Donald Trump wrote: »

It's a bit mad isn't it. All these countries coming up with similar fruitcake restrictions? It's almost as if these fruitcake decisions are based on a thing called "science" that leads to the same conclusions and similar restrictions worldwide.

However given that conditions vary hugely worldwide (climate, lifestyle, travel patterns, urbanisation etc.) and therefore one would expect measures to vary correspondingly. If countries are instead adopting the same measures, as you suggest, one might expect something other than science to be at play. For instance, it could be that leaders don't want to be seen doing a "solo run" so adopt whatever their neighbours are doing even if it is not the optimal solution.

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

How do ye reckon a group of around ten lads would be fixed for heading over to the UK for a stag by mid-August? Mainly late 20s/30 age bracket, don't think we will be fully vaccinated by then anyway so won't have a a 'green cert' if that is required. Would you need one to travel over to England or would that just be for further afield? Hopefully there won't be a quarantine on returning to Ireland. If there was though I am guessing travelling via Belfast is a bit of a way around this?

Why not Northern Ireland?

20 of us are heading up to North Antrim at the end of next month. Rang a few pubs we wanted to go to and they are delighted to have us.

Portugal is going to be on the UK green list soon as per the guardian. The trip to Belfast is actually pretty good, motorway and national roads all the way to the airport. Also there is no Tolls. Hopefully the canaries make the list.

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Why not Northern Ireland?

20 of us are heading up to North Antrim at the end of next month. Rang a few pubs we wanted to go to and they are delighted to have us.

The North is probably the plan B. It's been tricky to plan with such a question mark over travel, but realistically it has to be to somewhere where the pubs will be open with little restriction so I don't have confidence we could do it somewhere such as Galway or Cork.

JDD wrote: »

You'll be grand. Green Cert is only for the EU I think.

At most you'll need a negative test getting in to the UK, and there isn't a hope that they'd introduce MHQ for coming back from the UK, though you might need a negative test again.

MHQ from UK simply doesn't work because of exactly what you have suggested - the backdoor through Belfast.

Cheers for the reply, worst case scenario that isn't too bad. Would be great if we didn't even require the negative test, can only imagine the ****show if the groom ended up testing positive for his own stag!