Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

Grizzly 45 · 02-05-2021 8:43pm

Richard308 wrote: »

I’m pro nuclear. Even the Russians Rosatom have decent plants these days

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One would hope so after THREE major accidents:eek:[Leningrad, Srvedlosk and Cherynobyl] in the Soviet Union that they finally got it right.:)

Grizzly 45 · 02-05-2021 8:54pm

Anyone got between 3to 7 thousand handy to save some Irish history?:(

2018 deactivation Nothing more now than a welded up high-tech and awkward club.:( Worse it is a "Red 9" Mauser that are worth a good bit more than the std broom handles.:mad:

https://bid.whytes.ie/lots/view/1-4J3HJ6/1919-21-war-of-independence-a-mauser-peter-the-painter-pistol?utm_source=Circulator&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Eclectic%20Collector%20Catalogue%20Now%20Online

tudderone · 02-05-2021 9:20pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Anyone got between 3to 7 thousand handy to save some Irish history?:(

2018 deactivation Nothing more now than a welded up high-tech and awkward club.:( Worse it is a "Red 9" Mauser that are worth a good bit more than the std broom handles.:mad:

https://bid.whytes.ie/lots/view/1-4J3HJ6/1919-21-war-of-independence-a-mauser-peter-the-painter-pistol?utm_source=Circulator&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Eclectic%20Collector%20Catalogue%20Now%20Online

Lovely, it'll wind up in some Irish-American's collectors on the other side of the Atlantic though.

Birdnuts · 02-05-2021 10:37pm

Richard308 wrote: »

I’m pro nuclear. Even the Russians Rosatom have decent plants these days. But if he going with the French new reactors. Clean, efficient, proven. Foolproof even by Irish standards. I’m in favour of wind and solar too.
Electric cars are major polluters with battery manufacturing. Plus no point in them if we are using oil, gas and coal to charge them.

And we will be importing plenty of nuclear via France when that interconnector gets built in Cork - probably a good thing too given Cabbage Head Ryans plan to leave our own grid stuck with a vast amount of useless windfarms

tudderone · 02-05-2021 11:07pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

And we will be importing plenty of nuclear via France when that interconnector gets built in Cork - probably a good thing too given Cabbage Head Ryans plan to leave our own grid stuck with a vast amount of useless windfarms

They want to ban lead shot because it kills birds, but the bird chopper wind turbines can work away. You couldn't make it up.

otmmyboy2 · 03-05-2021 1:07pm

Anyone else following this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipDwyerNP/status/1388950006099546124

Not a peep from any news outlets that I could find.

Apparently a chap who filmed the guards raiding a church in Athlone was the victim of a dawn raid by AGS a week later who, acting on a complaint, took him to a garda station for a mental eval and Tusla removed his 2 kids.
Having been cleared yesterday morning he's trying to get his kids back still and seemingly getting stonewalled by AGS.

Supposedly he was told the complaint came from his mother who evidently has been deceased since 1997.

At least that is what I've gleaned from twitter posts thus far.

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 1:18pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

Anyone else following this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipDwyerNP/status/1388950006099546124

Not a peep from any news outlets that I could find.

Apparently a chap who filmed the guards raiding a church in Athlone was the victim of a dawn raid by AGS a week later who, acting on a complaint, took him to a garda station for a mental eval and Tusla removed his 2 kids.
Having been cleared yesterday morning he's trying to get his kids back still and seemingly getting stonewalled by AGS.

Supposedly he was told the complaint came from his mother who evidently has been deceased since 1997.

At least that is what I've gleaned from twitter posts thus far.

Yeah I heard about that too but there's nothing online about it apart from what the National Party is putting out. There's zero chance that RTÉ will even mention this because it goes against their narrative.

Did anyone else hear about a recent celebration being held in Dublin to honour some Rabbi from the 2nd Century? Apparently it was the biggest gathering all year. Funny how Catholics are banned from mass but Jews and Muslims can throw a party scot free.

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 1:23pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Anyone got between 3to 7 thousand handy to save some Irish history?:(

2018 deactivation Nothing more now than a welded up high-tech and awkward club.:( Worse it is a "Red 9" Mauser that are worth a good bit more than the std broom handles.:mad:

https://bid.whytes.ie/lots/view/1-4J3HJ6/1919-21-war-of-independence-a-mauser-peter-the-painter-pistol?utm_source=Circulator&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Eclectic%20Collector%20Catalogue%20Now%20Online

Yeah it's really sad to see such historical pieces get butchered. They had a Lee Enfield last year that was a "cock and click" deact so wasn't completely destroyed, but you can clearly see where the barrel was drilled out on the Mauser. It's a real shame we can't collect these firearms without castrating them, even the Brits can!

otmmyboy2 · 03-05-2021 1:44pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Yeah it's really sad to see such historical pieces get butchered. They had a Lee Enfield last year that was a "cock and click" deact so wasn't completely destroyed, but you can clearly see where the barrel was drilled out on the Mauser. It's a real shame we can't collect these firearms without castrating them, even the Brits can!

Sadly no longer. Even the British are subject to the EU deactivation standard, and they are starting to register them too.

civdef · 03-05-2021 1:52pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

Anyone else following this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipDwyerNP/status/1388950006099546124

Not a peep from any news outlets that I could find.

Apparently a chap who filmed the guards raiding a church in Athlone was the victim of a dawn raid by AGS a week later who, acting on a complaint, took him to a garda station for a mental eval and Tusla removed his 2 kids.
Having been cleared yesterday morning he's trying to get his kids back still and seemingly getting stonewalled by AGS.

Supposedly he was told the complaint came from his mother who evidently has been deceased since 1997.

At least that is what I've gleaned from twitter posts thus far.

Something tells me there will be a lot more to the story than what the NP are tweeting. But that won't stop them.

civdef · 03-05-2021 1:53pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Did anyone else hear about a recent celebration being held in Dublin to honour some Rabbi from the 2nd Century? Apparently it was the biggest gathering all year. Funny how Catholics are banned from mass but Jews and Muslims can throw a party scot free.

So is there any evidence for this happening, or just rumours saying "Jews and Muslims" get special treatment?

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 2:05pm

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

Sadly no longer. Even the British are subject to the EU deactivation standard, and they are starting to register them too.

Ah yes, I was referring to Brits being allowed to license handguns for collecting. I wasn't very clear in my post so apologies. Still, it's a shame we have to destroy such historical pieces.

tudderone · 03-05-2021 3:11pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Ah yes, I was referring to Brits being allowed to license handguns for collecting. I wasn't very clear in my post so apologies. Still, it's a shame we have to destroy such historical pieces.

Comes with all sorts of conditions, you cannot keep it at home, it must be kept at a secure facility, and you can only shoot it under supervision and so many times a year. Better than nothing i suppose.

Mellor · 03-05-2021 3:33pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

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One would hope so after THREE major accidents:eek:[Leningrad, Srvedlosk and Cherynobyl] in the Soviet Union that they finally got it right.:)

Not familiar with the details behind Srvedlosk. But Leningrad and Chernobyl were caused by human error, rather the the technological error.
And both were pretty massive cases of gross incompetence from what I seen.

Rows Grower · 03-05-2021 3:42pm

An interesting piece from the New York Times about social unrest in America....

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/01/us/the-order-proud-boys-oath-keepers-far-right.html?referringSource=articleShare

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 4:19pm

tudderone wrote: »

Comes with all sorts of conditions, you cannot keep it at home, it must be kept at a secure facility, and you can only shoot it under supervision and so many times a year. Better than nothing i suppose.

Yeah, it falls under section 7 of their firearms act or so I'm told. Apparently you can keep it at home if you don't shoot it which is grand.

Grizzly 45 · 03-05-2021 4:22pm

My mistake on Sverdlovsk,it was a biowarfare lab accident rather than nuke.

As for the other two gross incompetence definitely from the designs,to administration to dealing with it and trying to hush them up. Something rather similar with our attitude to disasters and causing them here.

tudderone · 03-05-2021 4:24pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Yeah, it falls under section 7 of their firearms act or so I'm told. Apparently you can keep it at home if you don't shoot it which is grand.

The only live pistol you can keep at home, apart from those stupid long barrel pistols and muzzle loaders, are pistols which chamber obsolete ammunition. There is a list of obsolete rounds and if your pistol is chambered for one, you can have it.

I have heard of quite a lot of stalkers getting single or double shot pistols for humane dispatch though.

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 4:28pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

An interesting piece from the New York Times about social unrest in America....

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/01/us/the-order-proud-boys-oath-keepers-far-right.html?referringSource=articleShare

Hmm, there's something missing from this article but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Grizzly 45 · 03-05-2021 4:29pm

tudderone wrote: »

Comes with all sorts of conditions, you cannot keep it at home, it must be kept at a secure facility, and you can only shoot it under supervision and so many times a year. Better than nothing i suppose.

You want to be a tweedy jacket with leather patches wearing,pipe-smoking beardie well up on the five German lads who made the firing pins for that particular model and serial number on any given afternoon in May 1900, before you get any sort of a chance to fire the 10 allocated rounds per annum by the massive club of Fudds [AKA the UK NRA], on the holy grounds of Bisley once a year.:rolleyes: And then you still be considered some sort of radical cad type for having an intrest in those confounded handguns from what I've heard about those collectors or whatnot in the UK.:eek:

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 4:32pm

tudderone wrote: »

The only live pistol you can keep at home, apart from those stupid long barrel pistols and muzzle loaders, are pistols which chamber obsolete ammunition. There is a list of obsolete rounds and if your pistol is chambered for one, you can have it.

I have heard of quite a lot of stalkers getting single or double shot pistols for humane dispatch though.

I think you can have pistols from before 1919 or pistols of historical significance at home, licensed of course. English Shooting made a video on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1WbpwuQ5wk&t=375s

tudderone · 03-05-2021 4:34pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

You want to be a tweedy jacket with leather patches wearing,pipe-smoking beardie well up on the five German lads who made the firing pins for that particular model and serial number on any given afternoon in May 1900, before you get any sort of a chance to fire the 10 allocated rounds per annum by the massive club of Fudds [AKA the UK NRA], on the holy grounds of Bisley once a year.:rolleyes: And then you still be considered some sort of radical cad type for having an intrest in those confounded handguns from what I've heard about those collectors or whatnot in the UK.:eek:

Oh we have fudds aplenty here too Grizz, believe me, i've met them. If shooting was in their hands, i'd jack it in and take up tiddley-winks.

Grizzly 45 · 03-05-2021 4:37pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Hmm, there's something missing from this article but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Proof of writer's claims perhaps?:rolleyes:
Factual reporting perhaps? IE "MAC10 semiauto gun":rolleyes:

Grizzly 45 · 03-05-2021 4:40pm

tudderone wrote: »

Oh we have fudds aplenty here too Grizz, believe me, i've met them. If shooting was in their hands, i'd jack it in and take up tiddley-winks.

Fortunately a dying[literal] breed here,and TBH not as bad as in the UK or elsewhere. More worrisome are here the Gombeens and Judases who would sell out their own for a quick buck or for a simpering fools place at the ministerial table to be told what will be removed next from their gun cabinet and like it.:rolleyes:

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 4:42pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Proof of writer's claims perhaps?:rolleyes:
Factual reporting perhaps? IE "MAC10 semiauto gun":rolleyes:

Quite possible, or maybe it was lying through omission by failing to mention the BLM LGBTQ[insert more letters here] mob?:eek::eek:

Grizzly 45 · 03-05-2021 4:45pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

I think you can have pistols from before 1919 or pistols of historical significance at home, licensed of course. English Shooting made a video on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1WbpwuQ5wk&t=375s

Not anymore... There was an outbreak of criminals using antique and obscure calibre handguns to do each other in so the HO shut that down as well.:mad:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/circular-0012021-antique-firearms/circular-0012021-antique-firearms-regulations-2021-and-the-policing-and-crime-act-2017-commencement-no11-and-transitional-provisions-regulations

civdef · 03-05-2021 4:45pm

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Proof of writer's claims perhaps?:rolleyes:
Factual reporting perhaps? IE "MAC10 semiauto gun":rolleyes:

There was a semi-auto Mac-10 I think? wasn't there an issue about open or closed bolts and a ATF ruling that changed on them?

tudderone · 03-05-2021 4:47pm

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

I think you can have pistols from before 1919 or pistols of historical significance at home, licensed of course. English Shooting made a video on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1WbpwuQ5wk&t=375s

I know a few lads in the UK who shoot, and they simply couldn't be bothered with all that. It is just easier to go to France or Spain and shoot there. But at least in the UK they can still shoot things we cannot, such as Cowboy action shooting (looks a lot of fun) or practical shotgun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYF15rWHLHY

tudderone · 03-05-2021 4:49pm

civdef wrote: »

There was a semi-auto Mac-10 I think? wasn't there an issue about open or closed bolts and a ATF ruling that changed on them?

Bloody pointless thing no matter if it was semi or full auto.

Munsterlad102 · 03-05-2021 4:52pm

tudderone wrote: »

I know a few lads in the UK who shoot, and they simply couldn't be bothered with all that. It is just easier to go to France or Spain and shoot there. But at least in the UK they can still shoot things we cannot, such as Cowboy action shooting (looks a lot of fun) or practical shotgun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYF15rWHLHY

Yeah, or just take a flight up North for the day. I'd love to do some IPSC or some practical shooting, but alas.

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