Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Hmmzis wrote: »

What you are displaying is confirmation bias. You're looking at one particular case without much detail on it and are extrapolating things that cannot be extrapolated from it. I'd let the medical people examine the exact cause of death.

That said, it's common for people of a certain age to die due to their age, bedridden or not.

Ah jayzis.


Ok, let me rephrase that. I think it it is safe to assume that getting the vaccine and the subsequent side effects almost certainly killed this man, while leaving a small window open for just coincidental bad timing and he was due to die that week anyway.



A view any objective human being would take given the timeline of events.




Do you really beg to differ?

This is hilarious:

Bhutan sat on coronavirus vaccines for months, awaiting auspicious rollout date
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/14/bhutan-vaccines/

For months, Bhutan sat on hundreds of thousands of doses of AstraZeneca’s coronavirus vaccine, waiting for the stars to align.

Despite receiving a supply of vaccines in January, the small Himalayan kingdom didn’t begin immunizing its population until March 27, a date that was selected through astrological consultations with Buddhist monks.

But once that auspicious date arrived, Bhutan made up for lost time. In less than two weeks, the country administered first doses to more than 93 percent of eligible adults, according to its Ministry of Health.

Turtwig wrote: »

I can't be the only one skeptical of a parish priest in Ireland (96!) being vaccinated as late as April? How many active priests are over 90 and how in gods name would they not have been identified in their community as the vulnerable age groups for vaccination?

If he was in his 70s I wouldn't be as skeptical. 96 is pushing the credibility barrier.

Sources would be nice.

Nuacht TG4 have his funeral cortege. Last weeks Kerryman has the photo

Kumejima wrote: »

Nuacht TG4 have his funeral cortege. Last weeks Kerryman has the photo

Yep. Sorry don't believe it. I hope you can understand why.

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Why though? Lets be realistic - by the end of this month, all the vulnerable age groups will be vaccinated. Yes we need to be cautious - I am not suggesting we re-open night clubs and let 500 unvaccinated 18-25 years olds in - but continuing a lock down once all the vulnerable age groups and people will underlying health conditions have got it, is just ridiculous.

While I appreciate there are people with vulnerable kids, etc - there were always these. We can at very least open everything up to outdoor activities, and NPHET have already said there is no issue with fully vaccinated people meeting up indoors.

We simply can't keep our society locked down forever - the financial hit has to be considered here too given the pressure for funding in the health service, etc. The money has to come from some where.

By the end of June, there will be more people killed weekly in road accidents than Covid - we don't just block the roads.

Brilliant post and I agree completely with everything you've said. However, in replying to that poster, I think you have touched upon a nascent issue - that there is a section of society who have been conditioned into thinking Covid is the be all and end all. That it is, and should remain, our singular focus in society. That no Covid death is acceptable.
I am not in any way trying to belittle the threat of Covid but, once most of the population have been vaccinated, that threat becomes almost negligible. Unfortunately, however, we know that there will still be deaths from the disease, and people will have to accept that. In that sense, there will need to be a recalibration of the moral compasses of some I think.

Valhallapt wrote: »

I really dislike the British media, but they did pile pressure on to get every jab delivered into an arm ASAP, forcing the government there to open up 24 hour jab centres.

We’re now entering a phase where large scale deliveries are about to happen, we need to start putting pressure on now.

There really is far too much acceptance of poor performance these days, and we constantly see the KPI's creeping back with very little outcry. In January people were talking about the rollout ramping up in March and April, now it is May and June, soon it will be July and August and then we will be told that we can look forward to maybe getting our lives back in September or October.

There is such a disassociation with the effects of these lockdowns, we just get told that it will be another few months as if that is no big deal, but to hundreds of thousands of people it is a big deal, its a ****ing massive deal.

Are far as I am concerned the vaccine rollout should be the single most important thing happening in this country, the government ain't got **** to do but be on it. So why do we keep hearing people patting themselves on the back for such underwhelming numbers? Over 40's can get a vaccine tomorrow up North and we are cheering because 69 year olds are finally allowed to book an appointment? 96 year priests only getting jabbed last week? As Roy Keane would say, do me a favour.

With the portal open for 65-69 I think the comms on the next steps are actually quite poor. I would expect them to start scheduling appointments almost instantly with a purpose built IT system. The injections are starting early next week apparently so not sure why they havnt advised when the appointments will be scheduled.

I know they wanted to give everyone a few days but even scheduling the 69 year olds would be a start.

funnydoggy wrote: »

This is hilarious:

Bhutan sat on coronavirus vaccines for months, awaiting auspicious rollout date
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/14/bhutan-vaccines/

Interestingly, the king pledging to wait until everyone else got a vaccine before him, was seen as helping the high uptake as people viewed getting the vaccine as helping to protect the king.
Don't think that approach would work for Micheal and Leo, people would delay getting the vaccine out of spite.

Van.Bosch wrote: »

With the portal open for 65-69 I think the comms on the next steps are actually quite poor. I would expect them to start scheduling appointments almost instantly with a purpose built IT system. The injections are starting early next week apparently so not sure why they havnt advised when the appointments will be scheduled.

I know they wanted to give everyone a few days but even scheduling the 69 year olds would be a start.

From what I heard though, most people who register on the portal will be given an appointment fairly quickly. It looks like the actual appointment comes at short notice.

Just wondering if anyone else got a call from their GP and told their vaccine appointment would be the following week and they would get a text with the details. How long did it take between the call and the text? Call received here yesterday but still no sign of the text, which could be completely normal but I just don't know. I thought other posters might know.

Champagne Sally wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone else got a call from their GP and told their vaccine appointment would be the following week and they would get a text with the details. How long did it take between the call and the text? Call received here yesterday but still no sign of the text, which could be completely normal but I just don't know. I thought other posters might know.

I've heard of quite a few people getting a text at short notice (e.g. the day beforehand), so I wouldn't be worrying just yet.

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, isn't there talk now that they were sent dodgy batches and not the actual stuff that was peer reviewed in the studies?

That was the Slovaks across the river.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/world/europe/slovakia-coronavirus-russia-vaccine-sputnik.html

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I heard though, most people who register on the portal will be given an appointment fairly quickly. It looks like the actual appointment comes at short notice.

I registered yesterday and I think it stated I would get 3 - 7 days notice of my appointments.......I'd happily take less!

Merkel got first dose of AZ today. Not really news but shur.