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Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Health11 wrote: »
    Hello, I am a healthcare worker who missed the portal deadline on March 26th. What do i do now to get a vaccine?

    Ring the Beacon hospital. Ask for Cichael Mullen.... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭noserider


    When can the 30-40 age group expect to receive a vaccine?
    Not asking for a friend, purely selfish concern!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    noserider wrote: »
    When can the 30-40 age group expect to receive a vaccine?
    Not asking for a friend, purely selfish concern!

    Late June, early July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    noserider wrote: »
    When can the 30-40 age group expect to receive a vaccine?
    Not asking for a friend, purely selfish concern!

    Mid June or there abouts would be my guess.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mid June or there abouts would be my guess.

    Paul Reid has been reported as saying they won't be starting general population under 60 until June. I'm not sure he knows what's going on half the time though.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/under-60s-must-wait-until-june-for-covid-19-vaccination-says-hse-1.4538488


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,434 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Mid June or there abouts would be my guess.

    That would be a good guess, perhaps even sooner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,434 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Paul Reid has been reported as saying they won't be starting general population under 60 until June. I'm not sure he knows what's going on half the time though.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/under-60s-must-wait-until-june-for-covid-19-vaccination-says-hse-1.4538488

    There has to be some mistake there : there are only 400,000 60 to 69 year olds and June is six weeks away.

    Also, the under sixties won't even be vaccinated with AZ, so there is no question of waiting until the over 60s are finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Paul Reid has been reported as saying they won't be starting general population under 60 until June. I'm not sure he knows what's going on half the time though.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/under-60s-must-wait-until-june-for-covid-19-vaccination-says-hse-1.4538488

    As per usual with Paul Reid I'd suspect his numbers might be a bit off there or he's mis spoken.

    I fail to see how you can hit 80% first dose by end of June if he plans on a June start of the u60s.

    Anyway this is all very fluid. We should hear on J&J next week which will mean another change to their plan in some form.


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    Strazdas wrote: »
    There has to be some mistake there : there are only 400,000 60 to 69 year olds and June is six weeks away.

    Also, the under sixties won't even be vaccinated with AZ, so there is no question of waiting until the over 60s are finished.

    He's probably looking at first and second dose requirements of Pfizer and Moderna for groups 3-7. That will eat up a fair bit of supply from April and May deliveries. It is really June before the numbers jump significantly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    He's probably looking at first and second dose requirements of Pfizer and Moderna for groups 3-7. That will eat up a fair bit of supply from April and May deliveries. It is really June before the numbers jump significantly.

    How many vaccines would be needed to get 80% of the adult population at least one shot? There would be millions to make up over 4 and half weeks if we only start the under 60's in June.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,434 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    He's probably looking at first and second dose requirements of Pfizer and Moderna for groups 3-7. That will eat up a fair bit of supply from April and May deliveries. It is really June before the numbers jump significantly.

    Possibly, but it seems hard to believe that nobody healthy and in their 50s will receive a vaccine in May.


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    snotboogie wrote: »
    How many vaccines would be needed to get 80% of the adult population at least one shot? There would be millions to make up over 4 and half weeks if we only start the under 60's in June.

    I think that might be the plan. Priority groups 1-8 plus the over 60's is around 1.6m people. So that's 40% of so of the adult population, with the aim I think to have them all at least first dosed by late May. Then from early June you aim for up to 400k a week and if 75% of this is first doses you might get close to the target.

    Personally I don't think they'll hit the target, if we get to 70% I think that would be decent.


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    Strazdas wrote: »
    Possibly, but it seems hard to believe that nobody healthy and in their 50s will receive a vaccine in May.

    Depends on group 7 I think (due to start in May), that might be smaller than expected as many have ended up in group 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Fairly certain Paul Reid said u60s done by start of June in the briefing today, thats what I heard anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,028 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    is_that_so wrote: »
    At least 26,000 say yes already. It's been HSE policy all along: nobody chooses their vaccines and you'll have to wait if you don't take what's offered. You can't run a national programme based on personal whims.

    And you can't run a national vaccination program if some of those in that vulnerable age group don't want to take the vaccine on offer either !

    This is a big problem and has been getting worse ever since it was first flagged about the clotting issues in the last week .
    More and more reports of vulnerable people refusing their jab or needing a lot of persuasion which frankly is not what any vaccinator wants to be having to do .
    Education , yes, persuasion , no .
    Telling people to take it or go to the back of the queue is not the way to deal with it . :(
    You may be happy with AZ and people here, but not everybody is, as is evidenced by those so far who have refused the AZ vaccine or are not signing up to the portal .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,028 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Delighted for him and you.

    However, in my 60+ circle, I have numerous ppl with Type-2 Diabetes. Not one has been called for a vaccine..

    Have you not got your vaccination yet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Have you not got your vaccination yet ?

    I think it was confirmed after that post that only “ Diabetes and HbA1C ≥58mmol/mol” is in the current cohort. All other people with diabetes are in cohort 7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,028 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    nibtrix wrote: »
    I think it was confirmed after that post that only “ Diabetes and HbA1C ≥58mmol/mol” is in the current cohort. All other people with diabetes are in cohort 7


    Yes . I know , thank you, nibtrix .
    I also know all the ins and outs of the high risk groupings as I work in the sector
    I would imagine all HCWs would tbh .

    Reason is, he was claiming he was a hcw last night .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Great thread. Keep it going.
    I wonder if the subreddit is where those with the thread bans have gone!
    2 interesting anecdotes :
    1. I have heard of several people in the 65-69 age bracket being called by GP this week - spare vaccine be here in 45 minutes. Pfizer of course.
    2. A work colleague was telling me his grandad in Germany in his 90s being vaccinated this week only. I think we are doing better than we think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    How long will rescheduling the roadmap take to incorporate the AZ restrictions take and for us to be jabbing at our full capacity again?

    France, Spain and Germany seem to have rejigged theirs very quickly. France for instance jabbed 472,063 yesterday (the equivalent of 34,460 here)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Jesus, will we ever escape this doom and gloom threat of lockdowns in this country unless one emmigrates. Is there actually anything to look forward to???? Do the f*****g vaccines work or not??

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/taoiseach-says-he-cant-be-definitive-there-wont-be-another-lockdown-next-winter-40318747.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Is1ldur


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Jesus, will we ever escape this doom and gloom threat of lockdowns in this country unless one emmigrates. Is there actually anything to look forward to???? Do the f*****g vaccines work or not??

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/taoiseach-says-he-cant-be-definitive-there-wont-be-another-lockdown-next-winter-40318747.html

    Stop reading these types of articles. They are not news, just tragedy click bait. They picked out one line he said, under pressure, and made that the basis for a whole article. Basically, the Indo, Dublinlive, the journal, etc. Are all just out for clicks and outrage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Is1ldur wrote: »
    Stop reading these types of articles. They are not news, just tragedy click bait. They picked out one line he said, under pressure, and made that the basis for a whole article. Basically, the Indo, Dublinlive, the journal, etc. Are all just out for clicks and outrage.

    You are right, they just don’t quit :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,400 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Jesus, will we ever escape this doom and gloom threat of lockdowns in this country unless one emmigrates. Is there actually anything to look forward to???? Do the f*****g vaccines work or not??

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/taoiseach-says-he-cant-be-definitive-there-wont-be-another-lockdown-next-winter-40318747.html

    That ****ing Variants word used again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    is_that_so wrote: »
    At least 26,000 say yes already. It's been HSE policy all along: nobody chooses their vaccines and you'll have to wait if you don't take what's offered. You can't run a national programme based on personal whims.

    I agree that a publicly-funded vaccination programme can't be operated like in a supermarket where ppl can just go in and pick a vaccine they like, on a personal whim. Such a vaccination programme obviously needs to source its vaccines from a number of sources to ensure continuity and speed of supply.

    However, such a programme also depends on the public being satisfied that they will get equivalent benefit regardless of the vaccine they end up with. For a variety of reasons, AZ (and possibly J&J) has become tarnished and, whether rightly or wrongly, some ppl have fears about taking AZ. The message, again whether rightly or wrongly, is being communicated in a way that some will see as AZ being 'dumped' on a particular section of the population, i.e. 60-69 y.o. I don't accept that such fears amount to 'personal whims'; they are genuine, should be treated as such, and appropriate communication /messaging devised as a matter of urgency to allay those fears.

    Messaging that says 'take it or you'll get nothing until after everyone else is vaccinated' is not helpful, particularly when just a couple of weeks ago the message was that age is the greatest risk factor for severe Covid illness/death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    That ****ing Variants word used again

    There will be an obsession of a new word coming soon, watch this space…..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Jesus, will we ever escape this doom and gloom threat of lockdowns in this country unless one emmigrates. Is there actually anything to look forward to???? Do the f*****g vaccines work or not??

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/taoiseach-says-he-cant-be-definitive-there-wont-be-another-lockdown-next-winter-40318747.html

    They work. What we don't yet know is how we'll they work against certain variants. Current indicators are they prevent severe disease. It's still too early to tell.

    The Taoiseach can't say some snafu won't happen. Reality is nobody knows. Vaccines are our way out of this mess. The rest of world will still be deep in this mess. That presents a potential complication. In that we just don't know what's going to happen. I'm optimistic but it's a reserved optimism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I went to the north yesterday and got mine (Pfizer thank god!!).

    I'm 46 and was able to book it online. I could have gotten it 3 weeks ago but I didn't have my NHS number to book it online (I still have bank accounts etc in the north and am registered at my parents house so I took full advantage).

    The centre was set up brilliantly and from I arrived at the door I was processed, injected then had to wait 15 minutes. In total I was there about 20 minutes. Volunteers everywhere guiding people in the right direction.

    Felt a bit sick last night at 9 p.m so took 1 paracetamol and 1 ibuprofen and went to bed. Woke about 5 minutes ago and I'm feeling grand....just a touch thirsty!!

    Couldn't wait here any longer. My good mate rang me yesterday and his parents were vaccinated in Meath yesterday also. Both of them aged 72. I hope to god the rollout starts here very quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    On a plus note i know a very old couple one in a bad shape with serious heart failure. They had the first jab a few weeks ago. Their son brought the virus into the house. He ended up fairly sick in bed but his parents had very little symptoms. They think the vaccine saved the old couples lives..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Jesus, will we ever escape this doom and gloom threat of lockdowns in this country unless one emmigrates. Is there actually anything to look forward to???? Do the f*****g vaccines work or not??

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/taoiseach-says-he-cant-be-definitive-there-wont-be-another-lockdown-next-winter-40318747.html

    Clicking on those articles and then sharing them drives up the clicks even further, which ensures those types of articles will be more commonplace as they are deemed popular and will drive up traffic on the website resulting in more money for them. Vicious cycle. Btw I didn't click on it.


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