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The Masters 2021

  • 05-04-2021 1:58pm
    #1
    paulie21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭


    The week is finally here. In fairness we only had to wait 6 months :).

    Spieth is the form horse. Can DJ retain? Has DeChambeau learnt from November? How will Rory and Shane play despite patchy form?

    All questions will be answered from Thursday.


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  • #2
    rickis tache
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭rickis tache


    Just did my picks
    Jordan Speith
    Justin Thomas
    Sungjae im
    Won't see much Thursday or Friday due to work but overload Saturday and Sunday.


  • #3
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭rooney30


    Jon Rahm is my pick , steady, if unspectacular form coming in . Due a big one . Tends to do well around there


  • #4
    benji79
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    What are the options for watching it outside of Sky Sports?


  • #5
    washman3
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    Any outsiders that can be in the shake-up on the final day..?


  • #6
    antimatterx
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    benji79 wrote: »
    What are the options for watching it outside of Sky Sports?

    So it's still technically Sky, but maybe look at a now TV pass for Sports. It's €19.50 a month for 3 months, but you can cancel anytime.


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  • #7
    benji79
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    antimatterx wrote: »
    So it's still technically Sky, but maybe look at a now TV pass for Sports. It's €19.50 a month for 3 months, but you can cancel anytime.

    Great thanks. I had Sky sports up to a couple months ago but found the extra money wasn’t worth it, I was rarely using the channel. I don’t watch soccer or rugby so wasn’t getting much use overall.
    Now TV sounds like it good be a good option for me. I’d hate to miss it especially if any Irish going well


  • #8
    JCDUB
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    rooney30 wrote: »
    Jon Rahm is my pick , steady, if unspectacular form coming in . Due a big one . Tends to do well around there

    Ordinarily yes. However his mind will most definitely be elsewhere this week. Not the best prep for a major at all.

    Then again, it might suit him, at least he's not waiting to get the call and rush off.

    My pick is JT. Obviously Spieth is worth a shout too.
    Might have an outside bet on Scheffler or Im for the craic.


  • #9
    callaway92
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    Rahm and JT my picks.

    Really tough one to pick a winner.

    Honestly always thought if Rahm wins a Major it would be a blow-away win. I have a good feeling here for him


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
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    Talk from the players is its playing firm already. If there is no rain it will be very tough. Long drives could run out more easily, landing spots will be smaller so even more importance on good iron play, putting will be more difficult the better lag putters and those better for the 4-5 ft returns will benefit, course management will be more important. Rules out a lot more players.


  • #11
    Nozebleed
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    Xander Scuhaffle & Tommy Fleetwood

    also sneaky bet on Oosthuisen. McIlroy to miss the cut.


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  • #12
    dball
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    Westwood has recent form too,

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/56652753


  • #13
    billy3sheets
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    Spieth to win with Berger, Kuchar, Connors for Top 10.
    All have decent recent form.
    I think Lowry might do well too if he gets a good start.


  • #14
    Mantis Toboggan
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    Think JT will win it.

    Expect Sergio and Louis Oosthezen to go close.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #15
    RikkFlair
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    benji79 wrote: »
    What are the options for watching it outside of Sky Sports?

    Do you have Eir broadband? Free on eir sports with the app.


  • #16
    Dr. Bre
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    I like Cammie smith and billy horschel


  • #17
    Fann Linn
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    antimatterx wrote: »
    So it's still technically Sky, but maybe look at a now TV pass for Sports. It's €19.50 a month for 3 months, but you can cancel anytime.


    SSports+ $22 per annum with premier soccer also. Look on the relevant thread on Bargain Alerts.


  • #18
    B lotto 79
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    Agree with you. Sergio is a definite dark horse. Unlike other majors, the Masters is a place where favourites do well.

    Dustin won there only 6 months ago. Jordan Spieth has form. Bryson is not a form horse around Augusta. Rahm is a new daddy, he surely has other things on his mind but maybe the pressure will be off? Would love to see Lowry do well obviously. Have always liked Webb Simpson - he’s a great putter, definitely something you need around Augusta.

    First time posting long time following!


  • #19
    eagle eye
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    JT and Spieth are the favourites in my book. Cam Smith a danger man, Max Homa and Brian Harman are live outsiders. Brooks always plays well at Augusta and claims his knee is fine.
    Two others I wouldn't rule out are Molinari and Bezuidenhout.
    Bryson statistically has a great chance but you pay a heavy price for wild drives at Augusta.


  • #20
    Salvation Tambourine
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Brian Harman are live outsiders

    Harman has really caught my attention in the last few weeks in The Players and his win over Bubba in the match play. He seems a determined lad.


  • #21
    castletownman
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    Can't see beyond any of the obvious lads at the top, and would love to see Spieth banish the demons of the 12th.

    Outside of that, I think Corey Connors will go well, and Oosthuizen is always capable of challenging for a major.


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  • #22
    slave1
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    BBC TV, radio & online coverage times

    All times BST and subject to change. The BBC is not responsible for any changes that may be made.
    Wednesday, 7 April

    14:00-15:00 - The Masters - 2020 Review - BBC Two
    Thursday, 8 April

    Round one live

    21:00-22:00 - BBC Radio 5 Live

    22:00-00:00 - BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra

    12:00-00:00 - Live text commentary on BBC Sport website, with in-play clips
    Friday, 9 April

    Round one highlights

    00:30-02:00 - BBC Two

    15:15-16:45 - BBC Two

    Round two live

    20:30-00:00 BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra

    12:00-00:00 - Live text commentary on BBC Sport website, with in-play clips
    Saturday, 10 April

    Round two highlights

    00:50-02:20 - BBC Two

    10:30-12:00 - BBC Two

    Round three live

    20:00-00:00 - BBC Radio 5 Live

    19:00-00:00 - Live text commentary on BBC Sport website, with in-play clips
    Sunday, 11 April

    Round three highlights

    00:05-01:35 - BBC Two

    11:30-13:00 - BBC Two

    Round four live

    21:00-00:00 - BBC Radio 5 Live

    19:00-00:00 - Live text commentary on BBC Sport website, with in-play clips
    Monday, 12 April

    Round four highlights

    00:00-02:00 - BBC Two

    14:30-16:30 - BBC Two


  • #23
    Lad GAGA
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    You could give realistic chances to a whole bunch of them. It really is a course where people who play it well, play it well from year to year. Think Langer to make the cut at 6/4 is a good bet and wouldn't be sur[rised if Couples also made the cut.
    Spieth comes there in great from, Thomas also in good form. Johnson hasn't been as good as last year to this point. McIlroy if he doesn't start well over the opening holes I can see him struggle to make the cut, his confidence is pretty low. My two fancies would be Rahm and Spieth with Westwood and Fitzpatrick as good each way bets. Backed Wallace at 175/1 each way last week when he was playing well in the Valero but his putting let him down on Sunday, if he putts like that at Augusta he won't feature.
    Anyway can't wait, one of the highlights of the sporting year and it never disappoints.


  • #24
    slave1
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    Rory will be Rory, he will have two great rounds, one decent round and the round where he loses touch with the field and that's Rory the past decade.
    If either of the first three are Thursday/Friday then he will make the cut, if the last two are Thursday/Friday he can take a flight home Friday evening


  • #25
    costacorta
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    Haven’t seen anyone mention Adam Scott 50/1 ? , I’ve gone with Koepka at 25/1 as great price if his knee is as good as he says . Scott ew and bigger ew bets on Griffin, Fritelli , and woodland all 125/1 and over ..Best of luck to everyone and looking forward to 4 days of great golf ..


  • #26
    Stacksey
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    I think one of Spieth, Thomas, Simpson, DJ and Rahm will win, I can't believe Westwood is 28/1, don't think he'll make the cut


  • #27
    slave1
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    Hey guys, can we keep this thread betting comment free per the charter.

    Feel free to discuss Betting on the dedicated Betting Thread.

    Cheers


  • #28
    blue note
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    slave1 wrote: »
    Rory will be Rory, he will have two great rounds, one decent round and the round where he loses touch with the field and that's Rory the past decade.
    If either of the first three are Thursday/Friday then he will make the cut, if the last two are Thursday/Friday he can take a flight home Friday evening

    The past half decade. He won 4 majors this decade, the most of anyone.


  • #29
    Mrcaramelchoc
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    blue note wrote: »
    The past half decade. He won 4 majors this decade, the most of anyone.

    Irrelevant. Its his form now that matters.Hes become another padraig harrington. Droning on about what he's doing with his game and not doing with his game and still ending up imploding.ill be surprised if he makes the cut never mind win it.


  • #30
    bustercherry
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    castletownman wrote: »
    I wonder which British golfer Sky (Paul McGinley) will build up and devote most shots to after one good round, before their inevitable collapse?

    A resurgent Westwood, over-rated Fleetwood, annoying Casey, boring Rose or arrogant Poulter?

    Ah here :rolleyes:


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  • #31
    Dr. Bre
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    castletownman wrote: »
    I wonder which British golfer Sky (Paul McGinley) will build up and devote most shots to after one good round, before their inevitable collapse?

    A resurgent Westwood, over-rated Fleetwood, annoying Casey, boring Rose or arrogant Poulter?

    All of this is harsh on these lads !


  • #32
    eagle eye
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    bustercherry wrote:
    Ah here

    Well he's certainly not playing well and this missing very short putts is a new thing.


  • #33
    topnotch
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    RikkFlair wrote: »
    Do you have Eir broadband? Free on eir sports with the app.

    Nice one thanks for that.:D


  • #34
    blue note
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    Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »
    Irrelevant. Its his form now that matters.Hes become another padraig harrington. Droning on about what he's doing with his game and not doing with his game and still ending up imploding.ill be surprised if he makes the cut never mind win it.

    People exaggerate about his fall from grace. It hasn't been a decade since he's done anything in a major. If you're talking about a decade, he's won 4. It's relevant if you're pointing out that people are exaggerating his fall.

    He is in a slump at the moment, that's clear. And it's disappointing that he hasn't won a major for 6 years when he's been one of the best in the world in that time.


  • #35
    DJIMI TRARORE
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    Can't see Shane or Rory in contention, never know what's coming with either, might be 67 67 or 67 76,no consistency. Speith the form guy with c+d history, can't be dismissed, Hideki goes well here, ew possibilities, wide open as usual, and having worked BH Monday I'll be off from Thursday evening. Enjoy


  • #36
    newport2
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    blue note wrote: »
    People exaggerate about his fall from grace. It hasn't been a decade since he's done anything in a major. If you're talking about a decade, he's won 4. It's relevant if you're pointing out that people are exaggerating his fall.

    He is in a slump at the moment, that's clear. And it's disappointing that he hasn't won a major for 6 years when he's been one of the best in the world in that time.

    If he does win more, this gap will barely be a blip when looking back at his career. Arnold Palmer won all his majors between 1958 and 1964, a 6 year spell. ie outside of that he won no majors in his whole career. Who talks about that now?


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  • #37
    rovers_runner
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    You can narrow down the field based on the following.
    1. Course knowledge - Westwood / Scott / Johnson / Reed
    2. Course Form - Johnson / Im / Smith
    3. Solid tee play - Morikawa / Im / Simpson all high in current stats.
    4. Putting - Oosthuizen / Smith / Im all up there


    I'd go for Im or Smith to win based on form now and a good recent run here behind them.
    Morikawa hasn't played much this year but still has three decent tournaments behind him, has no form here yet though.


  • #38
    eagle eye
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    Westwood never won it, Im only played there once, Simpson is completely.out of form,
    You make no mention of Spieth or Koepka which is weird with Koepka having consecutive top tens and Spieth a former winner and twice runner up and in form.


  • #39
    rovers_runner
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Westwood never won it, Im only played there once, Simpson is completely.out of form,
    You make no mention of Spieth or Koepka which is weird with Koepka having consecutive top tens and Spieth a former winner and twice runner up and in form.

    Westwood in good form and nearly won it twice.
    Simpson is a dark horse and if he starts well anywhere usually stays the course.
    Im only once due to his age but as expected last year hit the ground running.

    Speith won last week which was important for him based on his return to form, people don't win here having won the previous week.
    Koepka is injured and playing with the rest of his career by pushing through it.


  • #40
    Deeper Blue
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    Koepka hasn't a hope

    Can barely walk by the sounds of things

    Banker to miss the cut imo


  • #41
    eagle eye
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    rovers_runner wrote:
    Westwood in good form and nearly won it twice. Simpson is a dark horse and if he starts well anywhere usually stays the course. Im only once due to his age but as expected last year hit the ground running.
    Well neither Westwood or Simpson made it out of their group in the match play and both missed the cut in their previous tournament to that.
    Im is unpredictable, interesting to see how he performs after a very rare week off.
    rovers_runner wrote:
    Speith won last week which was important for him based on his return to form, people don't win here having won the previous week. Koepka is injured and playing with the rest of his career by pushing through it.
    Mickelson won the week before the Masters and won the Masters, Sandy Lyle too. Both of them are multiple major winners just like Spieth.


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  • #42
    rovers_runner
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well neither Westwood or Simpson made it out of their group in the match play and both missed the cut in their previous tournament to that.
    Im is unpredictable, interesting to see how he performs after a very rare week off.

    Mickelson won the week before the Masters and won the Masters, Sandy Lyle too. Both of them are multiple major winners just like Spieth.

    You are using matchplay golf as a benchmark now?

    Two cases of wins leading in to the masters in how many years? It took a hell of a lot out of Speith last week I'd say, he has been close a lot in the last year without following through on a Sunday.

    We will see come Sunday on the 10th tee for the final group sure, I don't have any money on it for once so it won't be my pocket hoping for certain outcome for a change, will enjoy this one as its wide open.


  • #43
    eagle eye
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    rovers_runner wrote:
    You are using matchplay golf as a benchmark now?
    I'm just mentioning their last two tournaments. If you want me to leave out the match play that's fine. Then they both missed the cut in their last tournaments.
    rovers_runner wrote:
    Two cases of wins leading in to the masters in how many years? It took a hell of a lot out of Speith last week I'd say, he has been close a lot in the last year without following through on a Sunday.
    And being close each week took nothing out if him but winning did? He's been the most consistent golfer over the last two and a half months.
    rovers_runner wrote:
    We will see come Sunday on the 10th tee for the final group sure, I don't have any money on it for once so it won't be my pocket hoping for certain outcome for a change, will enjoy this one as its wide open.
    It's going to be great as per normal. My favourite tournament and nothing comes close.


  • #44
    CMcsporty
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    rovers_runner wrote: »
    You are using matchplay golf as a benchmark now?

    Two cases of wins leading in to the masters in how many years? It took a hell of a lot out of Speith last week I'd say, he has been close a lot in the last year without following through on a Sunday.

    We will see come Sunday on the 10th tee for the final group sure, I don't have any money on it for once so it won't be my pocket hoping for certain outcome for a change, will enjoy this one as its wide open.

    I know what your saying about back to back wins but what do you mean here about Spieth?

    I think it will give him huge confidence for this week. Strongly fancy him.
    He got a good 1st round draw and i think he may do another wire-to-wire win like 2015.


  • #45
    Frisbee
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    Deeper Blue wrote: »
    Koepka hasn't a hope

    Can barely walk by the sounds of things

    Banker to miss the cut imo

    This is my thinking. Would love to see him do well but he is talking about trying to find alternative routes down the 9th and 10th holes so he doesn't have to walk on too much of a downslope which is a major red flag.


  • #46
    Roger_007
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    I heard Butch Harmon saying that Augusta is essentially a second shot course. With the distance they are all hitting the ball these days, it boils down to a wedge-and-putt competition. Whoever has the best wedge and putting stats will probably win. I would rule out Rory on this basis. I think it’s between Speith, Thomas and DJ.
    DeChambeau may have learned his lesson last year and dial down his tee shots. In Augusta, position off the tee is much more relevant than distance. Bryson could spring a surprise by playing a more conservative game which he has shown signs of recently.


  • #47
    callaway92
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    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I heard Butch Harmon saying that Augusta is essentially a second shot course. With the distance they are all hitting the ball these days, it boils down to a wedge-and-putt competition. Whoever has the best wedge and putting stats will probably win. I would rule out Rory on this basis. I think it’s between Speith, Thomas and DJ.
    DeChambeau may have learned his lesson last year and dial down his tee shots. In Augusta, position off the tee is much more relevant than distance. Bryson could spring a surprise by playing a more conservative game which he has shown signs of recently.

    It's just not that simple though


  • #48
    con___manx1
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    Sergio garcia has a alot of top ten finishes at Augusta. He is a big outsider but I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes top ten again. The course suits his game.


  • #49
    First Up
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    B lotto 79 wrote:
    Agree with you. Sergio is a definite dark horse. Unlike other majors, the Masters is a place where favourites do well.


    He can't be that dark a horse. Only a couple of years since he won it.


  • #50
    Tilikum17
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    First Up wrote: »
    He can't be that dark a horse. Only a couple of years since he won it.

    Plus the fact he’s actually playing really well lately.

    I think Sergio is the furthest thing from a dark horse.


  • #51
    CMcsporty
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    He's just a show pony then


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