The Masters 2021

PabloAndRoy

So is there a rule about retrospecively applying penaltys when evidence is uncovered (e.g. via TV camera) ?

I would say often the player is not even aware of it happening. This case with Ancer being one.

Mushy

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

and reed got away with his sand castle building in a different tournament, monty too was some man for cheating in bunkers

Far far easier to call out a Mexican than an American

Frisbee

PabloAndRoy wrote: »

So is there a rule about retrospecively applying penaltys when evidence is uncovered (e.g. via TV camera) ?

I would say often the player is not even aware of it happening. This case with Ancer being one.

Yeah Hovland got done at The Players a few weeks ago too. Moved his marker out of JTs way so he could putt and then never moved it back. In that case though he brought the video to the PGA and they penalised him two shots then.

Mantis Toboggan

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

and reed got away with his sand castle building in a different tournament, monty too was some man for cheating in bunkers

Not sure he got away with it? Didn't he get a 2 stroke penalty?

ThewhiteJesus

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Not sure he got away with it? Didn't he get a 2 stroke penalty?

yes eventually got a two shot pen i think, but it was a clear cheat he should have been dq'd.
He has a history of it going back to his college days all the players hate him for it

Doyler92

Is there anywhere to see the leaderboard at the end of each round from the Masters in November?

PabloAndRoy

Frisbee wrote: »

Yeah Hovland got done at The Players a few weeks ago too. Moved his marker out of JTs way so he could putt and then never moved it back. In that case though he brought the video to the PGA and they penalised him two shots then.

I saw that one. His mum rang him while he was in the car park and asked if he had been penalised. That was the first he knew of it.

dball

https://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/masters-tournament/past-results.html

ClutchIt

Jaysus that Ancer one is super super harsh.
If they looked at every bunker shot from yday in that detail there must be 5 or 6 lads who'd get a penalty.

ClutchIt

That was most entertaining round of golf I've watched in years yesterday. Excellent set up.

Mushy

ClutchIt wrote: »

That was most entertaining round of golf I've watched in years yesterday. Excellent set up.

For a Thursday it was very good alright. Some excellent play and greens proving tricky. Just hope Rose doesn't surge ahead moreso

Roger_007

I’m sure the greens are super smooth but on TV they look a bit like my front lawn after the ravages of the winter. The 18th looks particularly bad. I’m surprised that the Augusta National boffins haven’t come up with some way of of making the greens look better on TV. They put so much effort into making the rest of the course look absolutely perfect.

Deeper Blue

Doyler92 wrote: »

Is there anywhere to see the leaderboard at the end of each round from the Masters in November?

They should have it on the 2020 masters wiki page, they usually have the leaderboards at the end of each round

TheCitizen

Lowry playing with leader Justin Rose today so maybe they'll show the odd shot on TV.

Deeper Blue

TheCitizen wrote: »

Lowry playing with leader Justin Rose today so maybe they'll show the odd shot on TV.

That's a featured group I believe so we should see the majority of his shots

Nozebleed

TheCitizen wrote: »

Lowry playing with leader Justin Rose today so maybe they'll show the odd shot on TV.

had a look at the scores early this morning on BBC's website. Lowry not even mentioned..a host of other so called notable players including McIlroy got their rounds highlighted..but not the 2019 Open Champion. embarrassing. i hope he has another solid round today..and rose falls apart..lol (revenge)

eagle eye

Roger_007 wrote:

I would have expected all the quarantine hotels to have been closed by 3pm yesterday. Do the government seriously think they can defy the great Joe Duffy!

Interesting, what relationship has this to the Masters?

Russman

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Abraham_Ancer/status/1380311045210836992?s=19

This is very harsh imo

Very harsh.

Interesting that they penalised him though, I thought it might have come under:

https://www.randa.org/en/rog/2019/rules/the-rules-of-golf/rule-20#20-2c

Applying “Naked Eye” Standard When Using Video Evidence
When the Committee is deciding questions of fact in making a ruling, the use of video evidence is limited by the “naked eye” standard:

If the facts shown on the video could not reasonably have been seen with the naked eye, that video evidence will be disregarded even if it indicates a breach of the Rules.
But even where video evidence is disregarded under the “naked eye” standard, a breach of the Rules will still be found if the player was otherwise aware of facts establishing a breach (such as where the player felt the club touch sand in a bunker even though that could not be seen by the naked eye).

Russman

Nozebleed wrote: »

had a look at the scores early this morning on BBC's website. Lowry not even mentioned..a host of other so called notable players including McIlroy got their rounds highlighted..but not the 2019 Open Champion. embarrassing. i hope he has another solid round today..and rose falls apart..lol (revenge)

If Rose was to throw in a 70 or 69 this morning he'd put a lot of players out of it almost before they've teed off for round 2. Can't really see it though, I think 6/8 under wins come Sunday.

Roger_007

eagle eye wrote: »

Interesting, what relationship has this to the Masters?

None.......posted in wrong thread.

ThewhiteJesus

the shot tracker on the masters website is really good i must say, nice bird from Mcintyre there

DJIMI TRARORE

Wiseburger on fire, - 5 thru 8

LuckyGent88

Players have to take advantage of the first 3 holes as 4-7 look really hard.

4 is 240 odd yards, 5 is hardest hole on course, pin on 6 is barely on the top shelf and the pin on 7 is just on the green.

Although some round from Wiesberger so far. He was 5/5 on cuts made at the masters coming

eggy81

Is there any way of watching proper coverage rather than just 2 groups shots.

Mushy

eggy81 wrote: »

Is there any way of watching proper coverage rather than just 2 groups shots.

Not quite the same, but Masters app/website you can see all shots.

Rose allowing people back into it

monkeybutter

eggy81 wrote: »

Is there any way of watching proper coverage rather than just 2 groups shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H603bazYlY

this is good, 3 holes, 2 of the best holes on the course and you can just watch all players go through rather than flipping around

the best drive and the best par 3 and the best 2nd shot

Mushy

Another bogey for Rose and Lowry

PARlance

eggy81 wrote: »

Is there any way of watching proper coverage rather than just 2 groups shots.

Proper/traditional coverage isn't allowed to start until 8pm our time.

B-D-P--

Why does eir sports not show live morning but does for afternoon?

kowloonkev

Been watching on the APP but it's kind of relentless and would drive you a bit mental with no breaks or commentary. Though it is good to check in and out of now and then.

The course looks like it hasn't recovered from November.

eagle eye

Just looking at the weather, 50% chance of rain between 7pm and 10pm our time. That'd certainly be an advantage to the later starters if it happens.

noserider

Any guess as to what the cut may be? +4 maybe?

eagle eye

noserider wrote:

Any guess as to what the cut may be? +4 maybe?

If that rain comes it'll be +3 I'd say. +4 if no rain.

Mrcaramelchoc

If a spectator makes a deliberate noise while the golfer is taking a shot which makes the golfer completely mess the shot up. Does he get to take it again?

Mushy

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

If a spectator makes a deliberate noise while the golfer is taking a shot which makes the golfer completely mess the shot up. Does he get to take it again?

No, unless golfer can stop the swing totally so pretty unlikely if on a downswing.

Deeper Blue

A combined 20 over par for Cantlay and Im. Didn't see that coming

Mantis Toboggan

Bryson finally shoots level par

rovers_runner

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Bryson finally shoots level par

Looks like he took a few things on board last night.
Could get close yet.

eagle eye

I think the +3's will be going him. Currently 48 players at +2 or better.

Mac_Lad71

Brilliant round from Spieth.

Great position going into the weekend.

Speak Now

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

Brilliant round from Spieth.

Great position going into the weekend.

Great to watch, took the triple bogey in his stride yesterday. Would love to see him win it.

noserider

Speak Now wrote: »

Great to watch, took the triple bogey in his stride yesterday. Would love to see him win it.

He’s had his green jacket, I’d be shouting for Rose. Bodes well for Europe and Ryder Cup.
His even par round today was commendable. He could of easily dropped back and been an also ran

Speak Now

noserider wrote: »

He’s had his green jacket, I’d be shouting for Rose. Bodes well for Europe and Ryder Cup.
His even par round today was commendable. He could of easily dropped back and been an also ran

Ah the Ryder cups best years are gone, really was a proper battle years gone by when it was 2 tours head to head. Now a days they are too familiar from the PGA tour. Jesus I remember being devasted when Langer missed that putt to tie or Justin Leonard holing that monster putt.

Anyway I'll be cheering on Speith

Degag

What did Kim do to the putter?

Putting with the 3 wood:D

Deeper Blue

noserider wrote: »

He’s had his green jacket, I’d be shouting for Rose. Bodes well for Europe and Ryder Cup.
His even par round today was commendable. He could of easily dropped back and been an also ran

A Spieth win would be infinitely more significant than a Rose win. And infinitely more interesting.

Degag

Deeper Blue wrote: »

A Spieth win would be infinitely more significant than a Rose win. And infinitely more interesting.

How so?

Deeper Blue

Degag wrote: »

How so?

If Spieth wins I think it could be the catalyst for another 3 or 4 major wins from him. I couldn't see Rose winning another.

akelly02

Is it just me or are they not bothering their hole to show any of Patrick Reid?

eagle eye

akelly02 wrote:

Is it just me or are they not bothering their hole to show any of Patrick Reid?

Well it's great that's haven't seen him, makes it all the more enjoyable. I don't like watching cheats.

TheRiverman

Rory has just blown it again, so much for adjusting on the fly.