COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

Micky 32 · 31-03-2021 01:46PM

History Queen wrote: »

Do you actually believe that?

Maybe not tomorrow but could be sooner than you think. The green travel pass is getting the go ahead.

vienne86 · 31-03-2021 01:50PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Micheál Martin has told the Dáil that a national portal for people to register for a vaccine is set to be up and running by the third week in April.

It would want to be up and running by then. Paul Reid said last weekend that 65-69 year olds without risk issues would be starting first doses in April!

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 01:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Heres what i am confused about though, how are they identifiying the "at risk" groups in the under 65s?

If priority is now going to be based on age, will my age (51) be looked at and my vaccination appointment given based on that, or will they also check for any underlying conditions?

I don't think they will, as I was last seen by the Diabetes Clinic in the hospital in Nov 2017 (I checked with them this morning) and my GP is clueless.

Sorry for being a moan, but its all very frustrating, and I'm not the only one in this position.

At risk conditions first is how it's working up to groups 7&8. My guess, based on other people's stories is that you are likely to hear from the clinic not the GP. I'd say neither has a clue at present anyway and are waiting for the HSE to notify them. To do that the HSE will need to have guaranteed supplies and we're just not in a good place yet. Even so it shouldn't be too long but all you can do at present is wait.

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 01:52PM

vienne86 wrote: »

It would want to be up and running by then. Paul Reid said last weekend that 65-69 year olds without risk issues would be starting first doses in April!

Yeah but they're likely to be GP so what we have at present should be good enough.

iamwhoiam · 31-03-2021 01:57PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I believe you are either at very high risk (Diabetes and HbA1C ≥58mmol/mol) or done by age.

The change is after group 7 . All diabetics Type 1 and Type 2 who are not very high risk ( ie HBA1C <58 ) are in Group 7
They will be done regardless of age

vienne86 · 31-03-2021 02:02PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah but they're likely to be GP so what we have at present should be good enough.

Really? I'm in that group and believe I will be registering online and getting my vaccine in a mass vaccination centre.

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 02:06PM

vienne86 wrote: »

Really? I'm in that group and believe I will be registering online and getting my vaccine in a mass vaccination centre.

OK. If that's the case then that probably sets the timeframe for the group. I just assumed it was the same as the older cohort and that the portal would kick in for all the really big groups.

31-03-2021 02:08PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I believe you are either at very high risk (Diabetes and HbA1C ≥58mmol/mol) or done by age.

Thanks, my HbA1C is over that (not by much, but still over). This was confirmed by blood test last week, but as it was requested by GP surgery, not hospital clinic, I don't know where this will be picked up by the HSE, or if it will be picked up.

I don't know, I guess I'll just have to wait and see and keep doing what I have been doing, and see how it pans out.

Thanks again.

noserider · 31-03-2021 02:09PM

Russman wrote: »

Yeah, she's usually very good and always seems to be well on top of her brief.

I didn’t understand what she was saying about the Travelling Community and Roma groups.
Was it that they would still be prioritised as they are living in crowded settings?
Open to correction.

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 02:12PM

noserider wrote: »

I didn’t understand what she was saying about the Travelling Community and Roma groups.
Was it that they would still be prioritised as they are living in crowded settings?
Open to correction.

They were two groups that the CMO used to report on way back and they are high risk, as you say, on account of their living arrangements.

plodder · 31-03-2021 02:13PM

The one thing that I don't like about Karina Butler is when she says "we'd love to vaccinate everyone at the same time, but ...". I think most people get that everyone can't be vaccinated at the same time. It's a bit patronising.

funnydoggy · 31-03-2021 02:14PM

noserider wrote: »

I didn’t understand what she was saying about the Travelling Community and Roma groups.
Was it that they would still be prioritised as they are living in crowded settings?
Open to correction.

Higher incidence of and vulnerability to certain conditions I'd say.

For example, travellers in particular are more likely to die from respiratory illness than others.

https://assets.gov.ie/18859/d5237d611916463189ecc1f9ea83279d.pdf

stephenjmcd · 31-03-2021 02:18PM

Indicative timelines due within the next week apparently

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1377248538845978624?s=20

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 02:19PM

plodder wrote: »

The one thing that I don't like about Karina Butler is when she says "we'd love to vaccinate everyone at the same time, but ...". I think most people get that everyone can't be vaccinated at the same time. It's a bit patronising.

It's just the limits of trying to be positive!

irishgeo · 31-03-2021 02:20PM

The big AZ delivery is due today. When we likely to hear if it's correct or short as per usual.

31-03-2021 02:24PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Higher incidence of and vulnerability to certain conditions I'd say.

For example, travellers in particular are more likely to die from respiratory illness than others.

https://assets.gov.ie/18859/d5237d611916463189ecc1f9ea83279d.pdf

The first few pages of that make for good reading. The amount of organisations for travellers is pretty damn high. I'm sure they don't all get government funding either.

seamus · 31-03-2021 02:24PM

noserider wrote: »

I didn’t understand what she was saying about the Travelling Community and Roma groups.
Was it that they would still be prioritised as they are living in crowded settings?
Open to correction.

Basically, yes.

They probably also don't want to say it, but they know that these groups are extremely unlikely to seek out vaccination for themselves or be willing to register on any government portal.

So instead they send a team out to them to arrange for the whole group to get vaccinated.

Travellers, Roma and the homeless are at higher risk of severe covid, so this fits with the whole concept of vaccinating those by order of vulnerability.

Klonker · 31-03-2021 02:25PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Mary Lou on the bandwagon now. This is going to get messy and they'll rile up the unions.

.

As bad as the government have been through all this, the opposition have actually been worse.

celt262 · 31-03-2021 02:26PM

seamus wrote: »

Basically, yes.

They probably also don't want to say it, but they know that these groups are extremely unlikely to seek out vaccination for themselves or be willing to register on any government portal.

So instead they send a team out to them to arrange for the whole group to get vaccinated.

Travellers, Roma and the homeless are at higher risk of severe covid, so this fits with the whole concept of vaccinating those by order of vulnerability.

Yep probably more likely to turn up and demand a vaccine without an appointment but that's another days work.

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 02:28PM

irishgeo wrote: »

The big AZ delivery is due today. When we likely to hear if it's correct or short as per usual.

Not sure it's still a fixed date it could be plus X days! Rest assured Donnelly will broadcast it on Twitter when/if it arrives!

Scuid Mhór · 31-03-2021 02:31PM

Looks like it’s all kicking off now.

funnydoggy · 31-03-2021 02:32PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Looks like it’s all kicking off now.

How do you mean?

ddarcy · 31-03-2021 02:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks, my HbA1C is over that (not by much, but still over). This was confirmed by blood test last week, but as it was requested by GP surgery, not hospital clinic, I don't know where this will be picked up by the HSE, or if it will be picked up.

I don't know, I guess I'll just have to wait and see and keep doing what I have been doing, and see how it pans out.

Thanks again.

If you’re diabetic and attend hospital you were moved to group 4. They just did a select all copy and paste to the HSE. HSE also dropped the HBA1C requirement. I personally know 3 hospitals that did this.

Scuid Mhór · 31-03-2021 02:33PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

How do you mean?

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/everyone-will-be-able-to-register-for-their-vaccine-jab-on-new-online-portal-by-third-week-of-april-taoiseach-40260994.html

funnydoggy · 31-03-2021 02:34PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/everyone-will-be-able-to-register-for-their-vaccine-jab-on-new-online-portal-by-third-week-of-april-taoiseach-40260994.html

Aaah yes. I wasn't sure if "kicking off" meant good or bad :pac:

The good kicking off is always welcome!!

Russman · 31-03-2021 02:34PM

seamus wrote: »

Basically, yes.

They probably also don't want to say it, but they know that these groups are extremely unlikely to seek out vaccination for themselves or be willing to register on any government portal.

So instead they send a team out to them to arrange for the whole group to get vaccinated.

Travellers, Roma and the homeless are at higher risk of severe covid, so this fits with the whole concept of vaccinating those by order of vulnerability.

Makes sense alright. Just reading an article in The Journal (I Know, I know !) referencing a HIQA report suggesting that the single does vaccine may be preferable for these groups. How much of our J&J allocation would that take up if they did that ? I've no idea how many travellers, Roma & homeless we have.

bodhrandude · 31-03-2021 02:37PM

I was just speaking to the receptionist at my GP today, I was enquiring about vaccination as my sister received her first jab last Saturday in Bandon, Cork, I'm Salthill based in Galway, same condition as my sister and the receptionist asked me my age, I'm 56, she then told me the GP is only vaccinating the over 70s at the practise, so apparently I have to get in touch with the vaccination centre at Ballybrit. Haven't received any letters or emails from medical staff yet anyways, I presume I'll be notified at some point by post or is the onus on me to contact the vaccination centre. There seems to be a mess of information out there and it can be confusing.

iamwhoiam · 31-03-2021 02:38PM

ddarcy wrote: »

If you’re diabetic and attend hospital you were moved to group 4. They just did a select all copy and paste to the HSE. HSE also dropped the HBA1C requirement. I personally know 3 hospitals that did this.

Are you sure ? Family members Type 1 with very controlled levels ?
Attending Tallaght hospital

31-03-2021 02:40PM

Russman wrote: »

Makes sense alright. Just reading an article in The Journal (I Know, I know !) referencing a HIQA report suggesting that the single does vaccine may be preferable for these groups. How much of our J&J allocation would that take up if they did that ? I've no idea how many travellers, Roma & homeless we have.

Travellers only about 30,000 as per last census, probably an underestimate. Homeless around 8,000. Roma estimate is 5,000.

is_that_so · 31-03-2021 02:41PM

Russman wrote: »

Makes sense alright. Just reading an article in The Journal (I Know, I know !) referencing a HIQA report suggesting that the single does vaccine may be preferable for these groups. How much of our J&J allocation would that take up if they did that ? I've no idea how many travellers, Roma & homeless we have.

All told probably about 40,000 (32k travellers in 2016, 2.5K Roma). Makes sense to use J&J with no need to chase people for 2nd shots.

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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