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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #1112
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks like they aren't going to do regional openings..I'm done with it at this stage, enough is enough.

    The virus has essentially being eradicated from Cork and Kerry. We can do no more and are still expected to keep our businesses and communities closed for no reason. This isn't a lockdown, it's now permanent closure until the entire country is vaccinated


  • #1113
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    There was talk immunity might only last 6 months from vaccine. If that's the case, we're almost half way to immunity expiring for some vulnerable people.


  • #1114
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    There was talk immunity might only last 6 months from vaccine. If that's the case, we're almost half way to immunity expiring for some vulnerable people.

    No there wasn't


  • #1115
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    OwenM wrote: »
    The pop up centres are for generating propaganda/data (another report) to justify further lockdown which is the only thing our one trick pony (NPHET) can do.

    Jesus, we have started using the turkey tin foil.


  • #1116
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    There was talk immunity might only last 6 months from vaccine. If that's the case, we're almost half way to immunity expiring for some vulnerable people.

    Source?

    These things are usually headlines that are letting the word "could" do a lot of work and taking a (perfectly normal) 1-in-1000 failure to remember immunity event to make a terrifying (read: click-baity) headline for ad bucks.

    I've seen nothing in the data to suggest that this is the case. On the contrary, available data points quite strongly (or as strongly as it can thus far) to SARS-CoV-2 causing a similar immunity to SARS-CoV, to which most people are still immune 17 years (at least) later.


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  • #1117
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    There was talk immunity might only last 6 months from vaccine. If that's the case, we're almost half way to immunity expiring for some vulnerable people.
    No study I have seen has said that? Do you have a link?

    Are you maybe confused with people being immune for a period of time after having covid? I think that 6 month figure might have been mentioned in some studies.


  • #1118
    Hooked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looks like they aren't going to do regional openings..I'm done with it at this stage, enough is enough.

    The virus has essentially being eradicated from Cork and Kerry. We can do no more and are still expected to keep our businesses and communities closed for no reason. This isn't a lockdown, it's now permanent closure until the entire country is vaccinated

    Same here. I'm off Thurs - Sun... work is shutting up (too little business).
    My wife is taking the Thursday as holidays, and we're taking off for a night or 2 in the van. Who are we meeting? No one. Everything we need is IN THE VAN. We couldn't be more isolated if we tried!!!

    Idiots RUINING the lives of so many...

    The travel restriction is rooted in the eviction legislation, which is why they're so slow to scrap it. Disgraceful carry on.


  • #1119
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    honda boi wrote: »
    Meant to be moving into a house in about a week.
    Was hoping this 5km would be relaxed. Absolutely draining it is.
    Sickened as plenty of good stuff on adverts and done deal for the house but obviously they way beyond this 5km.
    Don't know what the Garda would say about picking up furniture/ kitchen stuff
    Kiith wrote: »
    Moving home is considered essential, as i did it in January. Not sure driving to pickup extra furniture would be though, so you may get stopped for that.
    honda boi wrote: »
    Ye moving to the house is fairly confident it's all above board.
    I see the issue is getting stuff for the house. There's nothing in the house. No appliances, furniture. Pre covid not an issue getting 2nd hand bargains. Now though it seems we all need to get brand new stuff, which is not financially possible.

    Ye not sure what we going to do as it means that we need to buy everything brand new to make it legal. Which is insane.

    while all gardai are different - friend in similar situation was buying a counter top for kitchen and was allowed through checkpoint.


  • #1120
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    gmisk wrote: »
    No study I have seen has said that? Do you have a link?

    Are you maybe confused with people being immune for a period of time after having covid? I think that 6 month figure might have been mentioned in some studies.

    Apologies, you're correct.

    I would assume the vaccine gives same immunity as the virus itself though, no?


  • #1121
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    It’s actually a relief to see so many on here starting to question the bat**** crazy plans in Ireland.

    I was starting to think I was the odd one out for about 12 months


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  • #1122
    saintsaltynuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    It’s actually a relief to see so many on here starting to question the bat**** crazy plans in Ireland.

    I was starting to think I was the odd one out for about 12 months

    Yeah these muppets Nphet and the current government have to go.


  • #1123
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Apologies, you're correct.

    I would assume the vaccine gives same immunity as the virus itself though, no?
    No worries.

    Any of the studies I have read the vaccine seems likely to give immunity for longer, but who knows it's all fairly new.


  • #1124
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    saintsaltynuts wrote: »
    Yeah these muppets Nphet and the current government have to go.
    NPHET are doing their job.

    Ok the current government have to go you say, who do you want in charge? SF? Who if anything seem to want tighter restrictions.


  • #1125
    Hooked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Hooked


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    It’s actually a relief to see so many on here starting to question the bat**** crazy plans in Ireland.

    I was starting to think I was the odd one out for about 12 months

    Same here. Really felt for a long time that I was the only one who had the "calculated risk" approach rather than just blindly following the man on the telly.

    Thankfully this past weekend I've visited family (socially distanced), had a night out with friends (all under 45 so we have accepted the risks) and plan to hit the road on Thursday with the missus.

    NPHET and MM et al haven't a bloody clue at this stage!


  • #1126
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Christ Almighty.

    Seriously raind. I largely respect your views, but do you not see the mega bias thats going on all year? And with that bias in mind do you really think its unthinkable nonsense that the message is being tweaked like that?


  • #1127
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Hooked wrote: »
    Same here. Really felt for a long time that I was the only one who had the "calculated risk" approach rather than just blindly following the man on the telly.

    Thankfully this past weekend I've visited family (socially distanced), had a night out with friends (all under 45 so we have accepted the risks) and plan to hit the road on Thursday with the missus.

    NPHET and MM et al haven't a bloody clue at this stage!
    A night out where?! Tesco's?!


  • #1128
    Hooked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Hooked


    gmisk wrote: »
    NPHET are doing their job.

    Ok the current government have to go you say, who do you want in charge? SF? Who if anything seem to want tighter restrictions.

    Not in my opinion... They're adopting the same approach to an "unknown" virus of March 2020 - instead it's March 2021 and they've 12 months of data on those really at risk, and the most vulnerable vaccinated.

    This virus isn't nearly as deadly as our joke of a health system would have us believe...


  • #1129
    LameBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭LameBeaver


    saintsaltynuts wrote: »
    Yeah these muppets Nphet and the current government have to go.

    Go where chief? There won`t be a general election anytime in the next few years and NPHET will be around for a long time to come as well.


  • #1130
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    gmisk wrote: »
    A night out where?! Tesco's?!

    Cans at the local petrol station.


  • #1131
    Hooked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Hooked


    gmisk wrote: »
    A night out where?! Tesco's?!

    Not even close. There was beer, pool, darts and music.

    And no masks... Rebels the lot of us!


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  • #1132
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    Are you maybe confused with people being immune for a period of time after having covid? I think that 6 month figure might have been mentioned in some studies.

    Immunity after contracting COVID-19 would not be different to immunity from a vaccination. If it were, vaccinations would be ineffective. It is possible that vaccination could work like a “booster” if given after COVID-19 disease by making the body “practice” clearing the virus. But it’s still the same mechanism of immunity.

    The 6 months figure is for antibodies, and while it seems as though antibodies may wane within 6-12 months, there seems to be strong T- and B- cell immunity (of the type that has kept previously infected people immune to SARS-CoV-1 for the last 17 years and counting).

    Of course we won’t know anything for certain for a long while because the only real way to monitor immunity is through ongoing observational studies, but the signs are good.


  • #1133
    LameBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭LameBeaver


    gmisk wrote: »
    A night out where?! Tesco's?!

    No a better buzz at Aldi I would say.


  • #1134
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    gmisk wrote: »
    NPHET are doing their job.

    Ok the current government have to go you say, who do you want in charge? SF? Who if anything seem to want tighter restrictions.

    can't argue with that tbh
    FG & FF are sh1te but the opposition seem to be playing the "more asbestos" card (See Bart Simpson election campaign for Class President)

    (Enjoy)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykm3GI1oTnQ


    can we clone Michael McNamara into a majority?
    Can't believe our future depends on a back bench rebellion. Hopefully if enough local people threaten their seat - they'll kick up a fuss.


  • #1135
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Hooked wrote: »
    Not even close. There was beer, pool, darts and music.

    And no masks... Rebels the lot of us!
    Lovely....then you are a big part of the problem, so you can't really be on here giving out about restrictions etc....how can you not grasp that?
    If you did catch Covid how many close contacts do you think you would have?


  • #1136
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Boggles wrote: »
    Cans at the local petrol station.
    I am picturing that scene from Zoolander....


  • #1137
    LameBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭LameBeaver


    Hooked wrote: »
    Not even close. There was beer, pool, darts and music.

    And no masks... Rebels the lot of us!

    And then you woke up from your wet dream.


  • #1138
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LameBeaver wrote: »
    And then you woke up from your wet dream.

    Are you under the impression that that sort of evening isn’t happening regularly all around the country?

    LOL


  • #1139
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    gmisk wrote: »
    Lovely....then you are a big part of the problem, so you can't really be on here giving out about restrictions etc....how can you not grasp that?
    If you did catch Covid how many close contacts do you think you would have?

    So somebody meeting friends in their house suddenly disbars them from being angry that shops/gyms/restaurants/pub/sports and activities are closed, measures such as masks are enforced? That's mental logic.

    I've been doing similar , was at a house with 6 others on sat , was nice.
    But wasn't the same as a night on the town.

    my close contacts are exposed insofar as they have been my entire life to any other illness. As previously said, nobody I meet in an enclosed space doesn't know what I'm up too. But you can't eliminate risk from your life - imagine a life with no risk? That would be hell.

    No more risk me passing on the virus than somebody who is at work daily cos their industry is deemed essential.
    I know - work is noble, rest of your life is bad. Sounds very communist to me. The state is everything, you are nothing.


  • #1140
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,832 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are you under the impression that that sort of evening isn’t happening regularly all around the country?

    LOL

    I saw a post on reddit recently of someone asking how everyone was walking around with such perfect fades and how did they get so good at cutting their own hair. :pac:


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  • #1141
    LameBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭LameBeaver


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are you under the impression that that sort of evening isn’t happening regularly all around the country?

    LOL

    Are you under the impression that if this is happening it is not driving up the positive cases or more to the point do you give a flying fcuk chief?


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