Dublin Lord Mayor Hazel Chu to stand as Independent in Seanad elections

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not sure if it is arrogance from her (“I will launch my campaign wherever I damn well want”)

or just ignorance (“havnt a breeze and havnt bothered my ass to do a basic check”)

Either is very concerning

https://www.independent.ie/podcasts/the-floating-voter/the-floating-voter-hazel-chu-i-may-not-win-a-seanad-seat-but-im-running-for-my-daughter-40239898.html

The Irish Independent reports today that Cllr Chu did not seek permission from the Office of Public Works (OPW) to hold that event and that under 1962 bye-laws, political events are not permitted in the park.

“I am very sorry,” she said.


She added that she didn’t think she would get many people to “show” up at the briefing and didn’t realise that she had to seek prior permission.

“I emailed some people, I didn't think they would show up.

“I’m happy to apologise.”

Plenty of valid things to criticise Chu for. Most recently her tweets around the Nkencho debacle and support for mass protests during a pandemic, as well as her bone headed take on Carlow teachers and PE gear that turned out to be (surprise surprise) complete and utter nonsense. Basically her tweet history is one big catalogue of "whoops, probably shouldn't have tweeted that".

This thing of not seeking permission to host a political event in Stephen's Green, non issue imo. I had no idea political events weren't allowed in there and I suspect this was true for many people. She gets excess media attention and ironically it was probably this excess attention that caused this little faux pas. Any other potential Seanad candidate could probably just submit their candidacy without the need to host an event for it.

blanch152 wrote: »

Social issues won't matter if Dublin is under two feet of water. Climate change is the issue of real importance.

Which is another problem for them. The more important climate becomes, the more major parties will focus their own attention to it to gain votes. Being a one party policy and that policy being pushed by all other parties will soon make that one party less relevant.

It's almost impossible for one party polices to survive and grow, and we are seeing that with the greens.

Tut tut holding an unauthorised event in St Stephen’s Green for journalists yesterday, where she officially launched her Seanad campaign. Then claiming she didn't know it had to be approved.

https://m.independent.ie/podcasts/the-floating-voter/the-floating-voter-hazel-chu-i-may-not-win-a-seanad-seat-but-im-running-for-my-daughter-40239898.html

I loved this bit in the article

chances of her winning a Seanad seat are slim, she has put herself forward for her daughter...

Cllr Chu said that it is important for her to run for the Seanad, despite a slim chance of winning, for her daughter Alex (3).

“If I’m to be able to look at my three and a half year old in the eye and tell her that we need better representation so that people would see that this is a good thing that people from different minority groups and genders should be in government office, this is what i need to do,” she said.

I sincerely doubt Hazels daughter has any more thoughts about life other than wanting to play with her toys and being adamant she doesn't like broccoli but loves Ice-cream - like most 3 year old :pac:

tayto lover wrote: »

She’s no better than the Cash woman.
Using your children to try to gain advantages is very low.

True, but the type of person that she is it’s not surprising... I’d say she has still absolute depths to plummet to, before we see the the worst of her...

tayto lover wrote: »

She’s no better than the Cash woman.
Using your children to try to gain advantages is very low.

Reminds of when Sabrina Williams had a meltdown with an umpire in the Australian Open a few years ago and at one stage referenced having a daughter and being a mother in the hullabaloo

People need to see what’s happening with the type of individual Chu is... I’ve seen them in workplaces and elsewhere...it’s not just her...

They want all regulations and policies set down to ensure fairness and wellbeing for all to be not applicable to them IF....

1) they are a parent, a hall pass to ownership of the world don’t ya know. Everyone else, everyone else’s, aspirations, wellbeing and health takes a back seat with these absolute fućkwits.

2) they’ve had any sort of brush ‘supposedly’ or in reality with ‘mental health issues’... a hall pass to behave with total disregard for anybody and everybody else’s wellbeing...

Strumms wrote: »

People need to see what’s happening with the type of individual Chu is... I’ve seen them in workplaces and elsewhere...it’s not just her...

They want all regulations and policies set down to ensure fairness and wellbeing for all to be not applicable to them IF....

1) they are a parent, a hall pass to ownership of the world don’t ya know. Everyone else, everyone else’s, aspirations, wellbeing and health takes a back seat with these absolute fućkwits.

2) they’ve had any sort of brush ‘supposedly’ or in reality with ‘mental health issues’... a hall pass to behave with total disregard for anybody and everybody else’s wellbeing...

"Mental health" is the great unchallengeable excuse for anything...

Strumms wrote: »

People need to see what’s happening with the type of individual Chu is... I’ve seen them in workplaces and elsewhere...it’s not just her...

They want all regulations and policies set down to ensure fairness and wellbeing for all to be not applicable to them IF....

1) they are a parent, a hall pass to ownership of the world don’t ya know. Everyone else, everyone else’s, aspirations, wellbeing and health takes a back seat with these absolute fućkwits.

2) they’ve had any sort of brush ‘supposedly’ or in reality with ‘mental health issues’... a hall pass to behave with total disregard for anybody and everybody else’s wellbeing...

A "hall pass"

Back to America now lad with this daft stuff

Del.Monte wrote: »

Hopefully she will be out of the Green party if she gets into the Senate. Does she actually have any interest in environmental issues or was the Green party just an easy way of getting a high profile?

Hopefully she will not get into the Senate, that would be disgusting, then it looks like she will be out of the Green party anyway (hopefully also) then, hopefully that will be the end of hearing from/about her.

I belive I mentioned this in another post, but it seems to me, raising her profile to get a cushy number like the Senate was always going to be her plan.

breezy1985 wrote: »

At least she is going in on a positive record with the electorate unlike the failures and lifers in that dump that has no place in a republic

Positive!? what part is positive?

Allinall wrote: »

Not a great salary really, especially compared to a TD.
Imagine getting paid for working.

69k for doing sweet fa is getting paid to work ?
I dont know if Id call that work myself, sounds like a cushy number imo

breezy1985 wrote: »

A "hall pass"

Back to America now lad with this daft stuff

No thanks, I’ll give you a hall pass for saying that though.

Augme wrote: »

Which is another problem for them. The more important climate becomes, the more major parties will focus their own attention to it to gain votes. Being a one party policy and that policy being pushed by all other parties will soon make that one party less relevant.

It's almost impossible for one party polices to survive and grow, and we are seeing that with the greens.

As a green voter, I would be happy if climate change became the number one issue for all parties. Then I could concentrate on other reasons to vote.

Until then though, I expect to be a Green voter.

blanch152 wrote: »

As a green voter, I would be happy if climate change became the number one issue for all parties. Then I could concentrate on other reasons to vote.

Until then though, I expect to be a Green voter.

Well, I consider myself environmentally conscious, I think The Environment and Climate issues are the biggest problems we face,


What I dont think is that having Green Party as their name means they give a $hite about it anymore than any other career politician.


There needs to be a balance, between what people need now and how to bring environmental issues to the fore that is sustainable and economically viable. There are a lot of problems with how environmental issues are viewed here, but you need to bring people on board, not chastise them.


A lot of how stuff is dealt with here is NOT going to help solve a global problem, tax more and do sweet fa about anything.

Now with the Greens at each others throats, it hardly looks like they have time for actual real Green problems.
Raising their profile and foisting their extremist views on us.


You'd think Ryan could afford to get a Prius Xtra or something a bit greener too, or at least have the sense to.

Strumms wrote: »

Hopefully come election time voters will remember and recognize her schtick and vote for less disingenuous and better equipped, better capable and intentioned candidates...

She's going for the Seanad. Her electorate are current members of the houses of the Oireachtas. She's a green (independent). I could be wrong but without an agreement with FG and FF she won't be elected. I suppose her failure and the election will be due to too many men in the Oirechtas, rather then the fact that the Seanad Bye-Elections are flawed.

Who else is running in this election? Do any of the other parties have agreements put in place?

Elmo wrote: »

She's going for the Seanad. Her electorate are current members of the houses of the Oireachtas. She's a green (independent). I could be wrong but without an agreement with FG and FF she won't be elected. I suppose her failure and the election will be due to too many men in the Oirechtas, rather then the fact that the Seanad Bye-Elections are flawed.

Who else is running in this election? Do any of the other parties have agreements put in place?

Long term she’ll have aspirations to run as a TD... so hopefully she’ll have done more gaping damage to herself in the Seanad... I don’t think shes the type to ever just quietly go about her job , the errr one WE are paying her to do without firing off a few more ignorant and controversial and self serving broadsides.. seems she does however have some of the younger wokies eating out of her hand every time she opens that ditch like gob... for them the more wokie the better..

Is shooting her gob off on Twitter a ‘positive record’. When you analyze whatshe has to say, the shît stirring....More like a broken record, useless.

PunkIPA wrote: »

To actually discuss the Lord Mayor's performance since taking office, does anyone know if she has voiced any opinion on the general state of lawlessness in the city centre?

I know the office is in effect a totally powerless sinecure, but I do think it is incumbent on the Lord Mayor to at least try and advocate for the concerns and issues affecting the people of Dublin.

I work in the city centre and I have to say the frequency of low-level criminality is spiralling out of control.

Has the Lord Mayor ever spoken about this as an issue?

She's much more concerned with real problems like hate speeech denying males can become females.

tayto lover wrote: »

What positive record?

She was elected the last time she ran in an election as opposed to the failed TDs in the Seanad.

blanch152 wrote: »

Most of those in the Seanad have been councillors for longer than Hazel and/or TDs, or were elected from the university panel.

How can someone who was once elected as a TD be less than someone who was never elected as a TD?

Try going back to the post I was replying to
"But the senate in its current form is not fit for purpose and seems to be a holding pen for politicians who can't get elected by the general public or are unelectable full stop"


She is not someone who cant get elected or is unelectable as she currently holds an office and was elected the last time she stood in an election

Amirani wrote: »

Costello is her husband, so a bit more than just a backer.

I don't have a particular issue with her running for the Seanad, all power to her. No real problem with her choosing to do it as an Independent if she wasn't getting party support. However, she should have resigned as Chairperson of the Greens in order to do so.

So is she still part of The Green Party

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

This read like a Babylon Bee tweet. The picture makes it.

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1375175992206065669

So it’s a vanity project. No surprise there...

She’s goes on about ‘needing better representation’... who the fûck is she to claim that ? The democratic process compiles who represents us....

I get the impression she isn't receiving the universal approval she expected, especially from the media, so is resorting to damage limitation of "Oh I know I don't have a chance", "It's for my daughter" etc.

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I get the impression she isn't receiving the universal approval she expected, especially from the media, so is resorting to damage limitation of "Oh I know I don't have a chance", "It's for my daughter" etc.

I think there are people waiting in the wings for her to trip herself up, didnt 3 of her colleagues invoke a vote of no confidence as chair of the Greens,
I dont know how the internal aspects of political parties works, but this isn't a vote of confidence that it has come up.
I think people generally have an idea of who she is now and how she operates and I believe this is likely better known in circles where people have closer dealings with her.
This person does not have a place in politics imo, Ive rarely come across politicians (a lot who I can find fault with) and thought this person is bringing nothing to the table.


I get nothing positive from her at all, Ive no doubt she won an election based on she was promoted in a certain way, I find it hard to belive many people could support such a divisive horrid person, jumps on bandwagons and derives her support and notoriety from that imo, because I cant tell or see what she actually has achieved. seems to be sweet fa.

Basically seems to get a big kick out of how racist we all are,
I dont how bad Pembroke Rd or Ranelagh or wherever is,
I must travel in different circles, I dont see the Racist society she sees. Ive no doubt there are people who lash out at others for perceived ills, but Im not convinced its anywhere near as bad as people like her are making things out to be, if anything, I think she is intentionally sowing and fanning division, because she needs it to exist, its all she has.


kinda reminds me of a Bill Hicks skit where he was ripping Ted Turner and CNN, I believe about their fear mongering in the news, Mr Hicks mockingly stated he was (jokingly) looking out his window (does a birds tweeting sound) and doesnt see it (war, pestilence, famine).
Ok in reality that stuff does exist, but there are fear mongerers (certain news media) who need it to be in business and the likes of Hazel Chu needs it to exist for no less a reason.