The Irish media hysteria

Private Joker · 22-03-2021 5:54pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are investigations to try to find out where some of the money from his "investment vehicle" went and whether any can be recovered for the investors who lost a lot of money.

I think that it lost all the money that was invested. Which is difficult enough thing to do when investing in physical assets............for example, if I remember correctly, they bought distressed properties in the US, then later realised they couldn't afford to pay the taxes due so they just gave them away to the company that they hired to renovate them.

Didnt euromillions delores lose loads of money in property in detroit based on his investment advice?

StupidLikeAFox · 22-03-2021 10:21pm

Eddie hobbs is an anti-masker as well for good measure

growleaves · 22-03-2021 10:23pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are investigations to try to find out where some of the money from his "investment vehicle" went and whether any can be recovered for the investors who lost a lot of money.

I think that it lost all the money that was invested. Which is difficult enough thing to do when investing in physical assets............for example, if I remember correctly, they bought distressed properties in the US, then later realised they couldn't afford to pay the taxes due so they just gave them away to the company that they hired to renovate them.

Distressed properties lol. Amateur vulture investors now I've heard everything.

growleaves · 22-03-2021 10:25pm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Eddie hobbs is an anti-masker as well for good measure

What about the people who handed him their money - are they all dutiful mask wearers?

BlaktainPicard · 22-03-2021 11:21pm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Eddie hobbs is an anti-masker as well for good measure

Is he really ? or did he refuse to wear one whilst walking alone in the beach so he is a far right nazi bigot anti vaxxer according to RTE ?

hi5 · 23-03-2021 11:45am

You can hear Eddie Hobbs opinions on the effects of Covid and lockdowns on the economy here...

StupidLikeAFox · 23-03-2021 8:45pm

BlaktainPicard wrote: »

Is he really ? or did he refuse to wear one whilst walking alone in the beach so he is a far right nazi bigot anti vaxxer according to RTE ?

He has that antimasker smiley emoji in his twitter name and he is always banging on about how this is an opportunity to microchip people etc

Chivito550 · 28-03-2021 9:25am

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

ThunbergsAreGo · 28-03-2021 9:26am

hi5 wrote: »

You can hear Eddie Hobbs opinions on the effects of Covid and lockdowns on the economy here...

Any idea why this was removed from YouTube?

is_that_so · 28-03-2021 10:26am

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

These things can only have an effect as part of a long term campaign such as with smoking. It's certainly not going to make people restrict themselves more if they've been ignoring it so far.

ThunbergsAreGo · 28-03-2021 11:45am

is_that_so wrote: »

These things can only have an effect as part of a long term campaign such as with smoking. It's certainly not going to make people restrict themselves more if they've been ignoring it so far.

Those that will watch TV are also likely to be those who are more likely to abide by restrictions

Chivito550 · 28-03-2021 12:46pm

I think this ad will prove to be a big mistake. It will be the final nail in the coffin for public support. I'd pull this now if I were them, before it's too late. Watch this space.

28-03-2021 12:50pm

hi5 wrote: »

You can hear Eddie Hobbs opinions on the effects of Covid and lockdowns on the economy here...

Removed from YouTUbe. Good Riddance. For once yOUtUBE AGENTS DID THE RIGHT THING!

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NIMAN · 28-03-2021 12:56pm

is_that_so wrote: »

These things can only have an effect as part of a long term campaign such as with smoking. It's certainly not going to make people restrict themselves more if they've been ignoring it so far.

So the advert is actually three situations that are staged or acted?

When I first heard about it, I assumed they were going to use real footage of people fighting for their lives, which I thought would have been hard hitting.

But now it reads like it's just a scripted bit of acting, compete with fake nurses and ventilators etc. That won't have the same impact. No point showing a "this is what could happen to you" scenario. People have all seen the Real footage of the scenes in Italy etc, the coffins in new York, but that didn't change how they acted, so i doubt a staged scene with actors will either.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-03-2021 1:07pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

As someone who works in a hospital and mostly in covid wards I find this picture hilarious...

cover photos on tumblr

NOBODY, NOBODY goes around in that. Gown, mask, goggles... not a bloody space suit. Scaremongering.

I'll add to this. Original image here (from Italy) https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/01/06/news/coronavirus_situazione_in_piemonte_news_contagi-281391381/

But also used:

https://www.aradon.ro/aradon-stirile-judetului-arad/62-de-cazuri-noi-si-5-decese-la-arad-1331271/

And multiple other outlets, its just a stock photo from... god knows where. Propaganda 101.

Chivito550 · 28-03-2021 1:13pm

Any way to find out how much the HSE/Government has spent on Covid ads since all this began? Tax payers money so we have a right to know.

All costs, including the production of creative, payment of actors, as well as the actual media slots on various TV and radio networks.

Silentcorner · 28-03-2021 6:00pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Any way to find out how much the HSE/Government has spent on Covid ads since all this began? Tax payers money so we have a right to know.

All costs, including the production of creative, payment of actors, as well as the actual media slots on various TV and radio networks.

It is being reported that RTE will record a profit this year....

The Government are spending in local newspapers, radio stations and national TV stations in a manner no other entity is...taxpayers money that is!!!

bloopy · 28-03-2021 8:25pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

Thats f**king disgusting.
They are going to make us beg for our lives back and the easily riled up will be used to attack anyone who steps out of line.
I am sick of the 2 minute hate being used to turn people on each other.

Del Griffith · 28-03-2021 8:49pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

Jesus christ

Parachutes · 28-03-2021 9:36pm

Ads like that have been on British television for ages now. I feel bad for children who are subjected to this fear propaganda day in day out.

GazzaL · 28-03-2021 9:52pm

Parachutes wrote: »

Ads like that have been on British television for ages now. I feel bad for children who are subjected to this fear propaganda day in day out.

15% of Irish 15 year olds can distinguish between fact and opinion: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/irish-schools-need-to-modernise-20th-century-approach-to-learning-warns-oecd-1.4516222

This translates into a large number of well-educated patsies in this country who blindly defend lockdowns and the incompetent clowns running the show even when confronted with clear facts, because the man on the tv told them to put on the green jersey.

PTH2009 · 28-03-2021 9:54pm

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

namloc1980 · 28-03-2021 9:55pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

Moving on to the next tactic to keep people living in fear.

Aph2016 · 28-03-2021 10:43pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

The public aren't buying into the seriousness of the virus anymore, better bring the scaremongering up a notch.

LessOutragePlz · 28-03-2021 11:12pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

Unbelievable, the only people that regularly watch RTÉ are already living in fear of this "deadly" virus any person under the age of 45 knows that this virus has an extremely low chance of hospitalising them let alone killing them.

I'd love to know exactly what they are hoping to achieve with this scaremongering ad?

I guess announcing the daily covid cases and deaths isn't scaring us into submission enough already so this is the best that they could come up with.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 28-03-2021 11:33pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

Moving on to the next tactic to keep people living in fear.

It's part of the official gov plan, it's been posted many times before.

Keep people in fear, anyone under 50 doesn't care, they know damn well they'll be fine.

Chivito550 · 28-03-2021 11:53pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

It is being reported that RTE will record a profit this year....

The Government are spending in local newspapers, radio stations and national TV stations in a manner no other entity is...taxpayers money that is!!!

Will this spend by HSE/Government on Covid ads be reported? Will RTE income directly from these ads be reported? Will we see transparency? I suspected they'll bury these figures in the accounts so it's not immediately obvious.

Are HSE and RTE accounts made public?

namloc1980 · 29-03-2021 11:24pm

Claire Byrne show now doing a segment on the variants. More fear.

is_that_so · 30-03-2021 8:58am

namloc1980 wrote: »

Claire Byrne show now doing a segment on the variants. More fear.

Do you not know by now it's the COVID show?!

ShineOn7 · 11-06-2021 5:25pm

The IT are normally my Irish go to

Not today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-may-be-stable-in-ireland-now-but-the-delta-variant-looms-1.4590869

Coronavirus may be stable in Ireland now, but the delta variant looms

Limitations after HSE cyberattack may be masking true prevalence of variant in State

is_that_so · 11-06-2021 5:45pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The IT are normally my Irish go to

Not today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-may-be-stable-in-ireland-now-but-the-delta-variant-looms-1.4590869

126 cases of delta here up to 20 May. It's very low.

Hurrache · 11-06-2021 5:53pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The IT are normally my Irish go to

Not today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-may-be-stable-in-ireland-now-but-the-delta-variant-looms-1.4590869

I mean people either want the reality, or they don't. Can't be blaming the media for putting stuff up you don't want to know.

I mean Sky News at the moment is running with their easing of restrictions being put on hold due to their rapid rise in cases.

It's the truth, not the national media revelling in misery for the craic.

Wanderer78 · 11-06-2021 5:57pm

Hurrache wrote:

I mean Sky News at the moment is running with their easing of restrictions being put on hold due to their rapid rise in cases.

Know someone living in London, said its rampant there, they're expecting another lockdown

ShineOn7 · 11-06-2021 6:23pm

Hurrache wrote: »

It's the truth, not the national media revelling in misery for the craic.

For a change

patnor1011 · 14-06-2021 5:30am

namloc1980 wrote: »

Claire Byrne show now doing a segment on the variants. More fear.

Good thing is that greek alphabet only have 24 letters so couple years from now we may be fine.
I am a little afraid that when they invent 24 variants they may start numbering them or combining so we may come with alpha-delta-theta4 variant and it suddenly look like never ending story.

MadYaker · 14-06-2021 5:59am

Hurrache wrote: »

I mean people either want the reality, or they don't. Can't be blaming the media for putting stuff up you don't want to know.

I mean Sky News at the moment is running with their easing of restrictions being put on hold due to their rapid rise in cases.

It's the truth, not the national media revelling in misery for the craic.

Don’t you realise that any talk of COVID in the media in any form at all is reckless scare mongering and we should all just bury our heads in the sand and ignore what’s happening?

Wanderer78 · 14-06-2021 6:10am

patnor1011 wrote:

Good thing is that greek alphabet only have 24 letters so couple years from now we may be fine. I am a little afraid that when they invent 24 variants they may start numbering them or combining so we may come with alpha-delta-theta4 variant and it suddenly look like never ending story.

.... Are those mentioning media fear mongering, the ones that are actually doing the mongering!

TefalBrain · 14-06-2021 9:16am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ffs

https://extra.ie/2021/03/28/news/irish-news/government-covid-19-television-advertisements

Ridiculous. The fear mongering never stops.

14-06-2021 11:56am

TefalBrain wrote: »

Ridiculous. The fear mongering never stops.

Lets all go full on rant mode over an article from March

mcsean2163 · 14-06-2021 5:02pm

MadYaker wrote: »

Don’t you realise that any talk of COVID in the media in any form at all is reckless scare mongering and we should all just bury our heads in the sand and ignore what’s happening?

I don't get it. The vulnerable are vaccinated and two doses stops delta.

Average age of death from covid19 is higher than life expectancy. I know quite a few people who've had it and they are back to normal etc.

It seems madness. What am I missing?

Level 42 · 14-06-2021 5:22pm

Clickbait rubbish yere worse to read it

patnor1011 · 14-06-2021 6:54pm

mcsean2163 wrote: »

I don't get it. The vulnerable are vaccinated and two doses stops delta.

Average age of death from covid19 is higher than life expectancy. I know quite a few people who've had it and they are back to normal etc.

It seems madness. What am I missing?

You are missing something something indiscriminate killer virus something something which spreads like wildfire something something long covid something something life will never be the same again.
And it is only 2 weeks something something maybe 2 months or years or whatever something something variants.
You can either read and watch media and cower in fear of impending doom or you can go out and talk to people and live a life as much as you can currently.

Deeper Blue · 14-06-2021 7:48pm

"RTE News. The truth matters."

This is the slogan for their latest ad campaign.

You couldn't make it up

AlekSmart · 14-06-2021 7:55pm

patnor1011 wrote: »

You are missing something something indiscriminate killer virus something something which spreads like wildfire something something long covid something something life will never be the same again.
And it is only 2 weeks something something maybe 2 months or years or whatever something something variants.
You can either read and watch media and cower in fear of impending doom or you can go out and talk to people and live a life as much as you can currently.

Ah here now....

The Central Statistics Office published it's summary of vital Statistics for 2020 on 28th May.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsys/vitalstatisticsyearlysummary2020/

2020 - 2019

Births 55,959 59,796

Deaths 31,765 31,134

Marriages 9,523 20,313

Natural 24,194 28,662
Increase

The 2020 Mortatility Rate is 2% above the 2019 figure.

There were 9,356 deaths from Malignant Cancers

The Covid entry is somewhat interesting.

COVID-19 Virus Identified and Virus Unidentified:

There were 1,672 registered deaths where COVID-19 was assigned as the underlying cause of death in 2020. There were a further 167 mortality records where there was a mention of COVID-19 in the narrative of the death certificate and where the underlying cause of death was not COVID-19

As of the 7th January this year the HSE were reporting Covid Deaths of 2307.

I'm unsure whether the Irish media outlets gave the CSO's report much coverage or consideration.

patnor1011 · 15-06-2021 12:26am

AlekSmart wrote: »

Ah here now....

The Central Statistics Office published it's summary of vital Statistics for 2020 on 28th May.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-vsys/vitalstatisticsyearlysummary2020/

The 2020 Mortatility Rate is 2% above the 2019 figure....

Which is pretty much in line with trend from last few years anyway. Like there was about 2% increase 2018 from 2017 numbers...

MadYaker · 15-06-2021 5:56am

patnor1011 wrote: »

Which is pretty much in line with trend from last few years anyway. Like there was about 2% increase 2018 from 2017 numbers...

So then what do you reckon the numbers would look like without the restrictions and various other public health measures we’ve had to put up with? Keep in mind that these measures pretty much eliminated the flu which kills quite a few people every year.

15-06-2021 8:01am

MadYaker wrote: »

So then what do you reckon the numbers would look like without the restrictions and various other public health measures we’ve had to put up with? Keep in mind that these measures pretty much eliminated the flu which kills quite a few people every year.

No one knows for sure. But there are plenty of countries and states that didn’t lockdown hard and didn’t have huge death tolls.

Considering our young population, geographical location and longest lockdown in Europe, we actually haven’t done too well.

We were too focused on closing business instead of looking at putting solutions in place around nursing homes, hospitals and meat factories were the illness was actually spreading.

15-06-2021 8:09am

Deleted User wrote: »

No one knows for sure. But there are plenty of countries and states that didn’t lockdown hard and didn’t have huge death tolls.

Considering our young population, geographical location and longest lockdown in Europe, we actually haven’t done too well.

We were too focused on closing business instead of looking at putting solutions in place around nursing homes, hospitals and meat factories were the illness was actually spreading.

What we did, undoubtedly worked

Feria40 · 15-06-2021 8:15am

Speaking about Irish Media hype. 3 Irish Independent Covid articles in a row this morning about Travel.

1x from some Philip Ryan calling for the July 19th return of International Travel to be postponed.

1x warning the over 60's with one AZ jab not to travel.

1x advising that people with one AZ jab won't be "allowed" to travel.

You could not make this stuff up.

15-06-2021 8:20am

Feria40 wrote: »

Speaking about Irish Media hype. 3 Irish Independent Covid articles in a row this morning about Travel.

1x from some Philip Ryan calling for the July 19th return of International Travel to be postponed.

1x warning the over 60's with one AZ jab not to travel.

1x advising that people with one AZ jab won't be "allowed" to travel.

You could not make this stuff up.

1x opinion piece

2x good common sense based on what we know is happening in the UK. They will be getting the second over the next few weeks

The Irish media hysteria

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