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The Irish media hysteria

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Forgive me for starting a thread if one already exists - I’ve read so many different threads and posts I’ve probably missed the obvious however...

It seems everyone is waiting daily for the 6pm figures to find out the latest cases and deaths situation. It’s scary to see how every single media outlet in this country is putting all their attention on this (yes, gloom sells). Not just RTE, but the other stations and every single paper has the latest on the front page in some form or another.

Contrast this to European media - search any of the national news channels or newspapers and you’ll find its never (usually) the top story. They are over the initial panic and are I guess realise they are in for the long haul with this virus.

People here are only obsessed with three things; deaths, cases and the “R” number. I’m not a Statistician or epidemiologist but a few weeks ago when there was concern and hype raised over the R number increasing beyond 1 on the basis of 20 odd cases or so made me completely lose faith in the strategy of the government/NPHET. 10mins reading about R numbers will prove it’s not an effective measurement with low numbers yet this was peddled across the media.

The fear-mongering of the Irish media is seriously starting to affect the mental health of the population - I’m sure everyone has witnessed it on a personal level either themselves or their friends/family. If you’re get stressed I highly recommend deleting the news apps, distract yourself around 6pm when you know the figures will be released, and try enjoy the last of the long days and sunshine because if the current media narrative continues, it’s going to be a miserable winter.

Ireland needs to evolve from our sheepish culture and learn to think outside the box and make our own opinions of matters. The media need to tone down the hysteria and the government need to realise this virus is here to stay so have to start making some difficult decisions against the ultra-conservative NPHET advice to safeguard the country.

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Coillte_Bhoy

Faugheen wrote: »

Luke O’Neill has been around long before COVID-19. He’s had a regular slot on the Pat Kenny show for years.

Yes, i always enjoyed listening to him too pre covid, i really dont get the hate towards him, its kind of depressing really., Disagree with him fine but the vitriol is pathetic

NIMAN

Faugheen wrote: »

Luke O’Neill has been around long before COVID-19. He’s had a regular slot on the Pat Kenny show for years.

Plus he is already a very rich man, so he ain't doing it for the money.

I think he likes being in the limelight. And this is exactly why folk are probably turning against him, he is bloody everywhere. And has been for a year, telling us it'll all be alright, while we haven't been able to have any sort of life for a year.

It grates on people. He'd be better lying low for a while.

coolshannagh28

Chivito550 wrote: »

Are Sam McKonkey, Luke O'Neill etc offering their many media appearances free of charge?

Luke Oneill is a wealthy individual.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi8z_KX0sLvAhX6XRUIHdeuCY8QFjACegQIARAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Fbusiness%2Firish%2Fprofessors-share-26m-windfall-as-drugs-firm-they-founded-four-years-ago-sold-for-380m-39551670.html&usg=AOvVaw3sdanSNebRF2WbAGvUBUDj

StupidLikeAFox

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Yes, i always enjoyed listening to him too pre covid, i really dont get the hate towards him, its kind of depressing really., Disagree with him fine but the vitriol is pathetic

But he played guitar on the telly. What a bastard.

Donald Trump

Faugheen wrote: »

What narrative has Luke O'Neill pushed that has encouraged ruining people's lives?

Seriously start backing up your nonsense with some evidence.

And he works in the field of immunology. He is very much an expert in this field.

I reckon there are posters on here that, if they went to the doctor and the doctor explained to them that they needed to lose weight because they were obese and in danger of developing diabetes, that the poster would call the doctor a "no-craic bollix" and blame the doc for the situation

[Deleted User]

NIMAN wrote: »

Plus he is already a very rich man, so he ain't doing it for the money.

I think he likes being in the limelight. And this is exactly why folk are probably turning against him, he is bloody everywhere. And has been for a year, telling us it'll all be alright, while we haven't been able to have any sort of life for a year.

It grates on people. He'd be better lying low for a while.

Exactly. He's like a medical Eddie Hobbes.

Eddie had a TV series around 2008 ""helping" people with their spending.

Eddie: So let me get this straight, you bought a house for 500k, even though it's only worth 300k, you work in Spar, your husband works in Dunnes, you get takeaways three times a week and your baffled by having no money?

Once the crash happened, he had the good sense to go quiet.

NIMAN

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly. He's like a medical Eddie Hobbes.

Eddie had a TV series around 2008 ""helping" people with their spending.

Eddie: So let me get this straight, you bought a house for 500k, even though it's only worth 300k, you work in Spar, your husband works in Dunnes, you get takeaways three times a week and your baffled by having no money?

Once the crash happened, he had the good sense to go quiet.

Unfortunately that spoofer is making a comeback, heard him on the radio recently.

Donald Trump

NIMAN wrote: »

Unfortunately that spoofer is making a comeback, heard him on the radio recently.

There are investigations to try to find out where some of the money from his "investment vehicle" went and whether any can be recovered for the investors who lost a lot of money.

I think that it lost all the money that was invested. Which is difficult enough thing to do when investing in physical assets............for example, if I remember correctly, they bought distressed properties in the US, then later realised they couldn't afford to pay the taxes due so they just gave them away to the company that they hired to renovate them.

mean gene

The Irish media are now grasping at straws trying to keep this going hyping up a 4th wave here now listened to radio 1 yesterday these journalists are a fcukin disgrace

scamalert

mean gene wrote: »

The Irish media are now grasping at straws trying to keep this going hyping up a 4th wave here now listened to radio 1 yesterday these journalists are a fcukin disgrace

reading irish independent youd want to blow your brains with waffle they come up with. theres effort thats been done nation wide for almost entire year now, and same fckn drum is being banged few arent adhering to completely self isolate from life :cool:.

theres 0 fck all news about hse trying to increase capacity for icus, vaccine's are treated as a freaking business venture, yes few people die of covid each day same as few dozen people die of other ilnesses accidents daily for years, this scaremongering crap is getting out of control.

Private Joker

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are investigations to try to find out where some of the money from his "investment vehicle" went and whether any can be recovered for the investors who lost a lot of money.

I think that it lost all the money that was invested. Which is difficult enough thing to do when investing in physical assets............for example, if I remember correctly, they bought distressed properties in the US, then later realised they couldn't afford to pay the taxes due so they just gave them away to the company that they hired to renovate them.

Didnt euromillions delores lose loads of money in property in detroit based on his investment advice?

StupidLikeAFox

Eddie hobbs is an anti-masker as well for good measure

growleaves

Donald Trump wrote: »

There are investigations to try to find out where some of the money from his "investment vehicle" went and whether any can be recovered for the investors who lost a lot of money.

I think that it lost all the money that was invested. Which is difficult enough thing to do when investing in physical assets............for example, if I remember correctly, they bought distressed properties in the US, then later realised they couldn't afford to pay the taxes due so they just gave them away to the company that they hired to renovate them.

Distressed properties lol. Amateur vulture investors now I've heard everything.

growleaves

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Eddie hobbs is an anti-masker as well for good measure

What about the people who handed him their money - are they all dutiful mask wearers?

BlaktainPicard

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Eddie hobbs is an anti-masker as well for good measure

Is he really ? or did he refuse to wear one whilst walking alone in the beach so he is a far right nazi bigot anti vaxxer according to RTE ?

hi5

You can hear Eddie Hobbs opinions on the effects of Covid and lockdowns on the economy here...

StupidLikeAFox

BlaktainPicard wrote: »

Is he really ? or did he refuse to wear one whilst walking alone in the beach so he is a far right nazi bigot anti vaxxer according to RTE ?

He has that antimasker smiley emoji in his twitter name and he is always banging on about how this is an opportunity to microchip people etc

Chivito550

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

ThunbergsAreGo

hi5 wrote: »

You can hear Eddie Hobbs opinions on the effects of Covid and lockdowns on the economy here...

Any idea why this was removed from YouTube?

is_that_so

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

These things can only have an effect as part of a long term campaign such as with smoking. It's certainly not going to make people restrict themselves more if they've been ignoring it so far.

ThunbergsAreGo

is_that_so wrote: »

These things can only have an effect as part of a long term campaign such as with smoking. It's certainly not going to make people restrict themselves more if they've been ignoring it so far.

Those that will watch TV are also likely to be those who are more likely to abide by restrictions

Chivito550

I think this ad will prove to be a big mistake. It will be the final nail in the coffin for public support. I'd pull this now if I were them, before it's too late. Watch this space.

[Deleted User]

hi5 wrote: »

You can hear Eddie Hobbs opinions on the effects of Covid and lockdowns on the economy here...

Removed from YouTUbe. Good Riddance. For once yOUtUBE AGENTS DID THE RIGHT THING!

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NIMAN

is_that_so wrote: »

These things can only have an effect as part of a long term campaign such as with smoking. It's certainly not going to make people restrict themselves more if they've been ignoring it so far.

So the advert is actually three situations that are staged or acted?

When I first heard about it, I assumed they were going to use real footage of people fighting for their lives, which I thought would have been hard hitting.

But now it reads like it's just a scripted bit of acting, compete with fake nurses and ventilators etc. That won't have the same impact. No point showing a "this is what could happen to you" scenario. People have all seen the Real footage of the scenes in Italy etc, the coffins in new York, but that didn't change how they acted, so i doubt a staged scene with actors will either.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

As someone who works in a hospital and mostly in covid wards I find this picture hilarious...

cover photos on tumblr

NOBODY, NOBODY goes around in that. Gown, mask, goggles... not a bloody space suit. Scaremongering.

I'll add to this. Original image here (from Italy) https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/01/06/news/coronavirus_situazione_in_piemonte_news_contagi-281391381/

But also used:

https://www.aradon.ro/aradon-stirile-judetului-arad/62-de-cazuri-noi-si-5-decese-la-arad-1331271/

And multiple other outlets, its just a stock photo from... god knows where. Propaganda 101.

Chivito550

Any way to find out how much the HSE/Government has spent on Covid ads since all this began? Tax payers money so we have a right to know.

All costs, including the production of creative, payment of actors, as well as the actual media slots on various TV and radio networks.

Silentcorner

Chivito550 wrote: »

Any way to find out how much the HSE/Government has spent on Covid ads since all this began? Tax payers money so we have a right to know.

All costs, including the production of creative, payment of actors, as well as the actual media slots on various TV and radio networks.

It is being reported that RTE will record a profit this year....

The Government are spending in local newspapers, radio stations and national TV stations in a manner no other entity is...taxpayers money that is!!!

bloopy

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

Thats f**king disgusting.
They are going to make us beg for our lives back and the easily riled up will be used to attack anyone who steps out of line.
I am sick of the 2 minute hate being used to turn people on each other.

Del Griffith

Chivito550 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/government-air-shocking-grim-tv-23805165

Jesus christ

Parachutes

Ads like that have been on British television for ages now. I feel bad for children who are subjected to this fear propaganda day in day out.