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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #7982
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
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    Sweet heart of divine Jaysus

    Ok Internet, that's enough of you today

    Time for a Film .....

    Did you read the headline of the article the poster was alluding to? I doubt it.


  • #7983
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    Maybe but compared to the majority of Europe we are doing very well.

    We are and take today for example.

    EU Saturday Cases per capita (actual cases):

    1. Hungary: 5,733 (11,132)
    2. Estonia: 4,687 (1,250)
    ---
    22. Finland: 767 (856)
    23. Ireland: 525
    24. Denmark: 506 (590)
    25. Portugal: 223 (457)


  • #7984
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I mean the letter is over a month old when the impact of vaccination still wasn't as clear as it is now.

    As the saying goes a paper never refuses ink

    The Indo are getting as bad as those UK red label rags.


  • #7985
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,566 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Over the last 2 months there has been around 4 or 5 days of zero declared daily Covid related death figures, this is completely impossible going by the figures around these dates unless the system for recording the deaths falls down by the person(s) recording deaths goes in to work for a 20% or less day and spending the remainder @MillerTime/Relaxing/NotWorking/Chilling/WellDeservedBreak

    Why have the media not questioned this?


  • #7986
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Over the last 2 months there has been around 4 or 5 days of zero declared daily Covid related death figures, this is completely impossible going by the figures around these dates unless the system for recording the deaths falls down by the person(s) recording deaths goes in to work for a 20% or less day and spending the remainder @MillerTime/Relaxing/NotWorking/Chilling/WellDeservedBreak

    Why have the media not questioned this?
    The death updates aren't going to be bang on the money when they announce 1, 2, 3, 17, etc. either - that's just the way the data filters through. You're relying on multiple people from multiple institutions to report potentially multiple deaths - it's not a computer program where deaths are automatically updated instantaneously as soon as someone flatlines.

    What do you reckon will be achieved by kicking up a fuss over the days it's at zero?


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  • #7987
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Over the last 2 months there has been around 4 or 5 days of zero declared daily Covid related death figures, this is completely impossible going by the figures around these dates unless the system for recording the deaths falls down by the person(s) recording deaths goes in to work for a 20% or less day and spending the remainder @MillerTime/Relaxing/NotWorking/Chilling/WellDeservedBreak

    What?


  • #7988
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Is there no talk or no prospect of regional approaches anymore? Sligo/Leitrim area has had consistently low cases for some time now, starting to feel like nonsense that you can't go for a haircut.


  • #7989
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Is there no talk or no prospect of regional approaches anymore? Sligo/Leitrim area has had consistently low cases for some time now, starting to feel like nonsense that you can't go for a haircut.

    100% agree,
    You’ve some a good share of counties that have very low covid numbers. It’s some parts of Leinster that driving the case numbers, obviously Dublin has the highest, the counties around them get hit then as well


  • #7990
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    There has been reports of people with long covid getting vaccinated and all those long covid symptoms disappeared.

    It’s possible that some long Covid symptoms are not real but psychological.


  • #7991
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭fits


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  • #7992
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I’ll try again
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  • #7993
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,805 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Is there no talk or no prospect of regional approaches anymore? Sligo/Leitrim area has had consistently low cases for some time now, starting to feel like nonsense that you can't go for a haircut.

    to be honest not sure what to make of the numbers . two weeks ago the lea I'm in was at near 300 cases per 10000 two weeks later its 56 which is a whole 15 cases in 2 weeks.

    My weather

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  • #7994
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Watched some of the premier divisions games on the AI streams. Their better than Trackchamp but I can't imagine 1st div fans will be happy. Their way off the standard of what clubs themselves produced last season in that division


  • #7995
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Is there no talk or no prospect of regional approaches anymore? Sligo/Leitrim area has had consistently low cases for some time now, starting to feel like nonsense that you can't go for a haircut.
    The LOK-down worked but failed with Dublin, simply because it's too big. The 5km, as crude and annoying as it is, largely ties people to a location. Making it regional means a lot more movement. Haircuts unfortunately come under that close proximity indoors. What the restrictions remind us is the limit of where PCR and contact tracing can get you. We do need other tools, but there are none available.


  • #7996
    JoChervil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    jackboy wrote: »
    It’s possible that some long Covid symptoms are not real but psychological.

    Or that those with these symptoms were unable to conquer Covid fully with their immune system and needed a boost.


  • #7997
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Watched some of the premier divisions games on the AI streams. Their better than Trackchamp but I can't imagine 1st div fans will be happy. Their way off the standard of what clubs themselves produced last season in that division

    Absolutely.


  • #7998
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    blowitupref wrote: »
    We are and take today for example.

    EU Saturday Cases per capita (actual cases):

    1. Hungary: 5,733 (11,132)
    2. Estonia: 4,687 (1,250)
    ---
    22. Finland: 767 (856)
    23. Ireland: 525
    24. Denmark: 506 (590)
    25. Portugal: 223 (457)

    Clearly not per capita. The most that could be is 1 if everybody in the country caught covid today.


  • #7999
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Is there no talk or no prospect of regional approaches anymore? Sligo/Leitrim area has had consistently low cases for some time now, starting to feel like nonsense that you can't go for a haircut.

    From the very start it was the mantra "we are in it together". It would not be fair on those living in Dublin etc to see other people in the country acting normally..


  • #8000
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    From the very start it was the mantra "we are in it together". It would not be fair on those living in Dublin etc to see other people in the country acting normally..

    Not really. There were regional lockdowns. I think counties with low numbers should be able to open up. And we should open things up for the vaccinated.


  • #8001
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    From the very start it was the mantra "we are in it together". It would not be fair on those living in Dublin etc to see other people in the country acting normally..

    The counties of Laois,Offaly and Kildare were put in lockdown last August,Where was the mantra "we are in it together" for the people of those counties?


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  • #8002
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭jackboy


    JoChervil wrote: »
    Or that those with these symptoms were unable to conquer Covid fully with their immune system and needed a boost.

    So your saying that those with long covid may in fact still be fighting the virus. That would be worrying if true.


  • #8003
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭fits


    jackboy wrote: »
    So your saying that those with long covid may in fact still be fighting the virus. That would be worrying if true.

    There have been reports of long covid disappearing after being vaccinated.

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  • #8004
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Klonker wrote: »
    I'd actually be happy if that was the easing in April 5th at this stage, just so we are moving in the write direction.

    Then 4 weeks later, Tuesday 4th May open non essential retail, outdoor dining, hairdressers, gyms, all outdoor team exercise, can meet in groups outside, county travel etc.

    Another 4 weeks, 31st May open restaurants and pubs serving food, all travel lifted, can meet another family indoors etc.

    End of June then can open pubs and no travel restrictions. We'd be back to near normal apart from large gatherings (nightclubs, concerts etc.). When all adults who want vaccine get offered a vaccine, say August or September no more restrictions at all.

    And none of this 6 weeks between reviewing restrictions nonsense again.


    Jayzus Klonker - you're way ahead of the posse there lad

    Even the UK - who are miles ahead of us in the vaccination stakes - are allowing that
    There will be a minimum of five weeks between each step: four weeks for the data to reflect changes in restrictions; followed by seven days’ notice of the restrictions to be eased.

    They also have a whole bunch of caveats and tests to meet before anything there will be changed


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-sets-out-roadmap-to-cautiously-ease-lockdown-restrictions


  • #8005
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭jackboy


    fits wrote: »
    There have been reports of long covid disappearing after being vaccinated.

    That does not mean that people were still fighting the virus for months on end. Some of those long covid cases may have been psychological rather than physical.


  • #8006
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭fits


    jackboy wrote: »
    That does not mean that people were still fighting the virus for months on end. Some of those long covid cases may have been psychological rather than physical.

    I dont think they know exactly what it means. But this effect of vaccination was certainly unexpected. I will look up where I read about it.

    ITs here https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/2/22308965/covid-vaccine-shots-symptoms-improve-chronic-long-haulers

    Viruses like varicella can remain dormant in body for long period of time.

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  • #8007
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    giveitholly wrote: »
    The counties of Laois,Offaly and Kildare were put in lockdown last August,Where was the mantra "we are in it together" for the people of those counties?

    That didn't effect me then.. Ha ha.. No but it should never have been done back then either. I think it stigmatised people in those counties and still does to an extent


  • #8008
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭jackboy


    fits wrote: »
    I dont think they know exactly what it means. But this effect of vaccination was certainly unexpected. I will look up where I read about it.

    ITs here https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/2/22308965/covid-vaccine-shots-symptoms-improve-chronic-long-haulers

    Viruses like varicella can remain dormant in body for long period of time.

    True but long covid is described as long term ongoing physical effects rather than a dormant virus which reactivates sometime in the future. Quiet likely that a lot of the cases are psychological.


  • #8009
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,017 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://extra.ie/2021/03/21/must-see/taoiseach-is-out-of-touch-say-ministers-as-new-poll-reveals-increasing-number-turning-against-lockdown
    Taoiseach Micheál Martin has been dubbed ‘out of touch’ by Cabinet colleagues, as a new poll shows significantly fewer people are in favour of harsh restrictions than a month ago.

    While the majority still believe the current Level 5 status is the best course, the numbers turning against them has grown significantly – and even Cabinet ministers are saying their own Government is to blame.

    The Cabinet has not discussed restrictions substantially in weeks, ministers told the MoS, for the simple reason that the Cabinet subcommittee which is a clearing house for such matters hasn’t met in weeks. I don’t know how the Cabinet could be said to be split on this when we have not been given the opportunity or the forum to discuss it,’ said a Cabinet minister.

    ‘There is a Covid Cabinet subcommittee now and it has one member, Micheál Martin. That is how that is manifesting itself.’

    ‘You won’t find a single person in the country or Government – bar the Taoiseach – who doesn’t believe that the 5km limit doesn’t need to be relaxed.

    Interesting feedback from the cabinet.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #8010
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/quarantine-delay-allows-1213-fly-in-from-risk-nations-40220929.html

    34,000 in 3 weeks....Might be a contributing factor to cases not quite dipping...


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  • #8011
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,414 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    https://extra.ie/2021/03/21/must-see/taoiseach-is-out-of-touch-say-ministers-as-new-poll-reveals-increasing-number-turning-against-lockdown



    Interesting feedback from the cabinet.

    Confusing triple negative there
    You won't find a single person...who doesn’t believe that the 5km limit doesn’t need to be relaxed.


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