Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Ok what would you like to happen then.

They need to gradually open up as planned, otherwise all you're doing is causing more economic instability with little upside because people are breaking the restrictions anyway.

Monster249 wrote: »

They need to gradually open up as planned, otherwise all you're doing is causing more economic instability with little upside because people are breaking the restrictions anyway.

I'm in agreement there, broadly speaking.

Monster249 wrote: »

Once again for the people in the back, what do you expect when you keep people locked up for 7 months with a one month break? Seriously?

It's not just a few outliers, every week there's more and more getting sick of this one trick pony approach.

Lockdowns work in short bursts with public buy-in, that wains when you implement them for months and months on end, it's that easy to understand.

Of course people get tired of restrictions, but some of us 'at the back' stay the course because we understand that breaching restrictions now could end up extending restrictions later.

Christmas is a perfect example. English variant or not, if people hadn't gone completely nuts, cases would have got back to current levels quicker and some of the things we want open now (full schools, outdoor training) might already be happening.

AdamD wrote: »

As the weeks go on I become less and less convinced we would have avoided any of this lockdown with different rules at Christmas.

It wasn't necessarily the rules, it was people breaching the ones that were in place. Yes we could have opened up later/less but if people had even stuck to the guidance that was given the sh1tshow would at least have been smaller.

CruelSummer wrote: »

Leaks again this morning;

5k ‘might’ be lifted to 10/20k.
If they think people are going to adhere to 10/20km after being stuck in 5k for months on end...just shows how completely useless and out of touch they are.
Another quote from the independent ‘growing sense that people aren’t coping with the current restrictions’ - you don’t say?
People should keep emailing and contacting their TD’s and be proactive. The treatment of the Irish people, one of the most complaint through sheer incompetence has to end.

I'd actually be happy if that was the easing in April 5th at this stage, just so we are moving in the write direction.

Then 4 weeks later, Tuesday 4th May open non essential retail, outdoor dining, hairdressers, gyms, all outdoor team exercise, can meet in groups outside, county travel etc.

Another 4 weeks, 31st May open restaurants and pubs serving food, all travel lifted, can meet another family indoors etc.

End of June then can open pubs and no travel restrictions. We'd be back to near normal apart from large gatherings (nightclubs, concerts etc.). When all adults who want vaccine get offered a vaccine, say August or September no more restrictions at all.

And none of this 6 weeks between reviewing restrictions nonsense again.

Benimar wrote: »

It wasn't necessarily the rules, it was people breaching the ones that were in place. Yes we could have opened up later/less but if people had even stuck to the guidance that was given the sh1tshow would at least have been smaller.

Talking about “breaching the rules”

Are you implying that if you caught Covid you broke the rules?

Astrazeneca death by blood clotting might sussed :


https://www.dw.com/en/astrazeneca-german-team-discovers-thrombosis-trigger/a-56925550

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Talking about “breaching the rules”

Are you implying that if you caught Covid you broke the rules?

No.

Following the rules and guidance won't keep people safe.

If they did covid numbers would have collapsed much quicker in early January when compliance was insanely high.

But

A lot of people break the rules in incredibly risky ways that massively increase their chance of getting covid. That rule breaking needs to be called out if we want to get out of restrictions before waiting for ~60%+ of the population to be vaccinated.

Morries Wigs wrote: »

People gone nuts me boll1x cop on. Most people done fcuk all, people that went to bars were out after 2 hours and had to get a meal. Brainwashed by media

People testing positive with 30 close contacts in two days. That's completly nuts.

When non essential retail was open there was times I went into a shopping centre and said that while numbers in shops were low enough the number in the shopping centre in ques or walking around made the covid risks too high. Non essential shops in shopping centres were an indoor mass gathering.

Restaurants that enforced rules are all well and good but there were a lot of people bragging on this forum that no rules were being enforced and once they got in they were in for the night.

Morries Wigs wrote: »

People gone nuts me boll1x cop on. Most people done fcuk all, people that went to bars were out after 2 hours and had to get a meal. Brainwashed by media

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

People testing positive with 30 close contacts in two days. That's completly nuts.

When non essential retail was open there was times I went into a shopping centre and said that while numbers in shops were low enough the number in the shopping centre in ques or walking around made the covid risks too high. Non essential shops in shopping centres were an indoor mass gathering.

Restaurants that enforced rules are all well and good but there were a lot of people bragging on this forum that no rules were being enforced and once they got in they were in for the night.

Exactly. You don’t get 30 close contacts in two days without going nuts.

A mate of mine who works in a hotel told me after the first weekend in December that hospitality would be closed after Christmas. They had all necessary precautions in place but his exact words were ‘people won’t do what we ask them to’.

"It is expected the 5km exercise limit will be lifted, with ministers set to debate whether to extend it to 10km, 20km or within counties."

Wonder will they split the difference and go with 20km?

No word on being able to meet more people outside, thought that might be part of discussion but could still be. Doesn't seem to be a whole lot else besides construction which was expected.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/lifting-of-5km-exercise-limit-and-the-phased-reopening-of-building-activity-now-on-table-40218458.html

mohawk wrote: »

If they don’t open up construction soon there won’t be enough construction workers left in the country by September. Construction is open everywhere else so plenty of jobs overseas.

I laugh when i hear construction is closed, yes much of it is but the whole industry is certainly not closed. Everyone i know in construction is working away and have been for months

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You do know that it is possible to be highly critical of the Govt response while still largely agreeing with the need for restrictions? I dont see or hear too many, if indeed any, defending the govt on here or in real life

There are a plethora of posters on here who vehemently support them.

'Restrictions' is also a word that needs context. Mask-wearing and social distancing are restrictions, but so are the current level 5 restrictions.

The disconnect comes when the Government can continuously prolong the restrictions despite us achieving one of the lowest incidence rates in Europe and the same individuals are happy enough to support that without questioning anything.

Monster249 wrote: »

There are a plethora of posters on here who vehemently support them.

'Restrictions' is also a word that needs context. Mask-wearing and social distancing are restrictions, but so are the current level 5 restrictions.

The disconnect comes when the Government can continuously prolong the restrictions despite us achieving one of the lowest incidence rates in Europe and the same individuals are happy enough to support that without questioning anything.

Havent noticed it myself tbh