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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #7952
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Why are the numbers not going down? honest answers only....

    7 day average in cases is 497 the lowest its been for any Saturday this year.

    Deaths reported is 8 per day average the lowest weekly average this year.

    In hospital as of 8am this morning 328, lowest number since December.

    In ICU 82 lowest number since the 5th of January.


  • #7953
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    themacattack. wrote: »
    maybe they are sensible and taking a calculated risk?maybe they are not afraid of covid?

    On an individual basis covid isn't a major issue.

    Most people can get through it.

    On a societal basis covid is a major risk.

    We won't get to drop really restrictions before mass vaccination unless everyone keeps the self safe.

    I do feel you are right that a lot of people are fed up with restrictions and have moved from taking decisions for society to I don't care if I get it. I will probably be fine.


  • #7954
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    manofwisdom wrote: »
    7 day average in cases is 497 the lowest its been for any Saturday this year.

    Deaths reported is 8 per day average the lowest weekly average this year.

    In hospital as of 8am this morning 328, lowest number since December.

    In ICU 82 lowest number since the 5th of January.

    Going down, but starting to stagnate.


  • #7955
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Going down, but starting to stagnate.

    Positivity creeping up also (lack of testing on Paddy's day doesn't help) Definitely gonna be touch and go over the week to see how it goes.


  • #7956
    Locotastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Positivity creeping up also (lack of testing on Paddy's day doesn't help) Definitely gonna be touch and go over the week to see how it goes.

    Be great if they switched to weekly updates, nearly 400 days of having figures every single evening. Weekly would be more indiciatve average rather than ups and downs of daily figures.

    Might not keep us afraid enough though. Daily reminders required!


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  • #7957
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Why are the numbers not going down? honest answers only....

    There are a number of reasons, here are just a few some based on my personal experience in the last couple of days

    More people are on the move, ignoring the 5km limit, doing their own thing, tired, fed up, covid fatigue etc

    Schools have reopened = more people are moving about

    A good chunk of non essential construction is OPEN for business, we got a quote for a new driveway today, we’ll be lucky to get fitted in before July, they are up the walls = more people moving about, some businesses have decided they now either survive or fail & have decided to try to survive

    A chunk of non essential retail is OPEN, bought something yesterday in a shop that “technically “ not open = more people moving about & they too have decided to try & survive rather than fail

    Hairdressers & barbers doing house calls is common enough

    Etc etc etc etc etc


  • #7958
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Russian Covid death toll appears to be closer to 450,000 than the official 94,267.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56454701

    Their media and supporters won't mention this however, they are too busy trying to cast aspersions on how the West has managed Covid.


  • #7959
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    hmmm wrote: »
    Russian Covid death toll appears to be closer to 450,000 than the official 94,267.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56454701

    Their media and supporters won't mention this however, they are too busy trying to cast aspersions on how the West has managed Covid.


    Well done BBC

    Ok, now out China's real figures


  • #7960
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    naughtysmurf wrote: »
    There are a number of reasons, here are just a few some based on my personal experience in the last couple of days

    More people are on the move, ignoring the 5km limit, doing their own thing, tired, fed up, covid fatigue etc

    Schools have reopened = more people are moving about

    A good chunk of non essential construction is OPEN for business, we got a quote for a new driveway today, we’ll be lucky to get fitted in before July, they are up the walls = more people moving about, some businesses have decided they now either survive or fail & have decided to try to survive

    A chunk of non essential retail is OPEN, bought something yesterday in a shop that “technically “ not open = more people moving about & they too have decided to try & survive rather than fail

    Hairdressers & barbers doing house calls is common enough

    Etc etc etc etc etc

    I'd like to add to this..
    In lockdown 1, it was a novelty. Most people were absolutely abiding by the no mixing with other households. A lot of people just stuck to their immediate nuclear family, didn't see grandparents, siblings etc.
    This time, I'm seeing extended families mixing with each other a lot more. Adult children going to the family home for Sunday dinners with parents, adult siblings visiting each other with their own children in tow etc etc.
    What I've heard from so many people is that they're just so fed up, they can't go on not seeing each other and in all honesty I can't blame anyone anymore for the frustration.
    I'm from a very small family so I've been sticking just to those who live with me but I have elderly aunts and uncles that I am really missing and am getting very frustrated now.

    To thine own self be true



  • #7961
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Going down, but starting to stagnate.

    Maybe but compared to the majority of Europe we are doing very well.


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  • #7962
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hospital figures at 8pm

    Total 350 (up from 329 last night)
    ICU 83 (down from 87 last night)


    Last Saturday
    Total 339
    ICU 85


  • #7963
    Diamondhands
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 ✭Diamondhands


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital figures at 8pm

    Total 350 (up from 329 last night)
    ICU 83 (down from 87 last night)


    Last Saturday
    Total 339
    ICU 85

    We should implement a level 6 lockdown, that should work.


  • #7964
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,415 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Diamondhands wrote: »
    If you agree with those restrictions, fair enough. If you don't, why are you letting arbitrary rules with no logical rationale dictate who you can and can't see?

    I know I should just ignore you but stop putting words in my mouth. We don't have to fully agree with something to comply with it - for many reasons.

    But you know that, only it doesn't suit the narrative .


  • #7965
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    Diamondhands wrote: »
    We should implement a level 6 lockdown, that should work.

    Yes, I think it would, and would shorten the war. An surprised there is not more discussion on the topic. A really strong shutdown for 3 weeks or so at this point should break the stabilised cases and really drive down the rate to that of last July or so. All schools closed. A much stricter essential work list, essentially health care, Gardai, services maintenance. No shops but for food and chemists. No mixing between households other than essential support of the elderly, or special needs. By mid April, we could easily justify a move to Level 3 type situation. Without such a measure, that is June or beyond.


  • #7966
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Be great if they switched to weekly updates, nearly 400 days of having figures every single evening. Weekly would be more indiciatve average rather than ups and downs of daily figures.

    Might not keep us afraid enough though. Daily reminders required!

    The 7 day incidence rate and 5 day average of cases is included in the daily press reports. That gives a more smoother trend, if the media don't want to give that precedence over daily figures, that's not on the government.

    If they only released figures weekly, people would be giving out about lack of transparency and we'd probably be the only country in the world not giving updates either daily it every second day etc...
    I don't know of any country bar North Korea who doesn't give regular (as in daily) covid updates to the public.


  • #7967
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Hospital figures at 8pm

    Total 350 (up from 329 last night)
    ICU 83 (down from 87 last night)


    Last Saturday
    Total 339
    ICU 85

    RTE gonna love that comparison between last week without them mentioning Paddy's day having an impact on discharges midweek!


  • #7968
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    RTE gonna love that comparison between last week without them mentioning Paddy's day having an impact on discharges midweek!


    George Lee is buying lube as we speak


  • #7969
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,795 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Oh it definitely isn't such an irrational fear. Statistics are in that person's favour, but still. We can be careful and manage the risk but to hide away and not actually be ok with doing so is sad. That individual aside I have a lot of compassion for anyone who is scared right now. I know a thing or two about fear and it can cripple you.

    The rest of your post Golden really shows me how nobody knows the person behind the keyboard. That's obvious but you know we get all annoyed and make assumptions and that. I hope your husband and children's vaccinations come soon :)

    Thank you for that AITMDOF :)
    While we are often not in agreement over the ' little things', I love your posts and your insight. :)

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  • #7970
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    RTE gonna love that comparison between last week without them mentioning Paddy's day having an impact on discharges midweek!

    Eh, Paddy’s Day has no impact on those figures. It might have delayed some people being discharged until Thursday but that’s it.


  • #7971
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    George Lee is buying lube as we speak

    After he cleans his screen!
    Insert a certain Randy Marsh screenshot lol


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  • #7972
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,090 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #7973
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Reading these headlines tomorrow could really piss off some people!! So NPHET think vaccines will have minimal affect because case numbers are around 500 a day, all of this was in minutes from a meeting in February...
    In fairness to Glynn and Reid they’ve both talked about vaccines being excellent in terms of reducing case numbers and illness in HCW and people in long term residential care.
    Irresponsible headline from the independent in my view.
    Another headline in the business post caught my eye. €352million cut to our recovery fund from the EU... now I’m no economist or anything but that’s a major setback when it comes to helping businesses reopen and capital infrastructure to help get people back to work. It’ll show that extended lockdown will hurt our economy even more and the consequences of that will be worse then the virus itself!!
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1373407531863830528?s=21


  • #7974
    Locotastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Reading these headlines tomorrow could really piss off some people!! So NPHET think vaccines will have minimal affect because case numbers are around 500 a day, all of this was in minutes from a meeting in February...
    In fairness to Glynn and Reid they’ve both talked about vaccines being excellent in terms of reducing case numbers and illness in HCW and people in long term residential care.
    Irresponsible headline from the independent in my view.
    Another headline in the business post caught my eye. €352million cut to our recovery fund from the EU... now I’m no economist or anything but that’s a major setback when it comes to helping businesses reopen and capital infrastructure to help get people back to work. It’ll show that extended lockdown will hurt our economy even more and the consequences of that will be worse then the virus itself!!
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1373407531863830528?s=21

    It's almost like they want to p*ss people off.


  • #7975
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,795 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Reading these headlines tomorrow could really piss off some people!! So NPHET think vaccines will have minimal affect because case numbers are around 500 a day, all of this was in minutes from a meeting in February...
    In fairness to Glynn and Reid they’ve both talked about vaccines being excellent in terms of reducing case numbers and illness in HCW and people in long term residential care.
    Irresponsible headline from the independent in my view.
    Another headline in the business post caught my eye. €352million cut to our recovery fund from the EU... now I’m no economist or anything but that’s a major setback when it comes to helping businesses reopen and capital infrastructure to help get people back to work. It’ll show that extended lockdown will hurt our economy even more and the consequences of that will be worse then the virus itself!!
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1373407531863830528?s=21

    ' Covid bounce puts RTE back in €5m profit'!
    That pvsses me off :/

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  • #7976
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Well done BBC

    Ok, now out China's real figures

    And never the twain shall meet.


  • #7977
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,524 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Reading these headlines tomorrow could really piss off some people!! So NPHET think vaccines will have minimal affect because case numbers are around 500 a day, all of this was in minutes from a meeting in February...
    In fairness to Glynn and Reid they’ve both talked about vaccines being excellent in terms of reducing case numbers and illness in HCW and people in long term residential care.
    Irresponsible headline from the independent in my view.
    Another headline in the business post caught my eye. €352million cut to our recovery fund from the EU... now I’m no economist or anything but that’s a major setback when it comes to helping businesses reopen and capital infrastructure to help get people back to work. It’ll show that extended lockdown will hurt our economy even more and the consequences of that will be worse then the virus itself!!
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1373407531863830528?s=21

    I mean the letter is over a month old when the impact of vaccination still wasn't as clear as it is now.

    As the saying goes a paper never refuses ink


  • #7978
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I mean the letter is over a month old when the impact of vaccination still wasn't as clear as it is now.

    As the saying goes a paper never refuses ink

    They could run a headline about NPHET warning of a massive and deadly wave is coming and it would be factual. Omit the Christmas details and then just add at the very end the letter was dated last December.
    It's all factual, it's not a lie, they are perfectly entitled to run it.
    That's where we are with the media these days.
    That gets passed around Twitter and Facebook and before it's explained the damage is done.


  • #7979
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,524 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    They could run a headline about NPHET warning of a massive and deadly wave is coming and it would be factual. Omit the Christmas details and then just add at the very end the letter was dated last December.
    It's all factual, it's not a lie, they are perfectly entitled to run it.
    That's where we are with the media these days.
    That gets passed around Twitter and Facebook and before it's explained the damage is done.

    Sums it up perfectly


  • #7980
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Reading these headlines tomorrow could really piss off some people!! So NPHET think vaccines will have minimal affect because case numbers are around 500 a day, all of this was in minutes from a meeting in February...
    In fairness to Glynn and Reid they’ve both talked about vaccines being excellent in terms of reducing case numbers and illness in HCW and people in long term residential care.
    Irresponsible headline from the independent in my view.
    Another headline in the business post caught my eye. €352million cut to our recovery fund from the EU... now I’m no economist or anything but that’s a major setback when it comes to helping businesses reopen and capital infrastructure to help get people back to work. It’ll show that extended lockdown will hurt our economy even more and the consequences of that will be worse then the virus itself!!
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1373407531863830528?s=21

    I'd be most worried about the comments about long covid. First the goal was to flatten the curve to protect our health service. Our goal then changed to save as many as possible until our vulnerable are protected by the vaccines coming. It's not unreasonable to think that the goal could change to avoid all getting covid until vaccinated to avoid people getting long covid. It's not that big of a stretch.


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  • #7981
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Klonker wrote: »
    I'd be most worried about the comments about long covid. First the goal was to flatten the curve to protect our health service. Our goal then changed to save as many as possible until our vulnerable are protected by the vaccines coming. It's not unreasonable to think that the goal could change to avoid all getting covid until vaccinated to avoid people getting long covid. It's not that big of a stretch.

    There has been reports of people with long covid getting vaccinated and all those long covid symptoms disappeared.


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