COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

ninebeanrows · 15-03-2021 06:26PM

Wow Favier on radio saying Doctors are right to be cautious and ultra conservative and leave hands off approach

This is exactly what kills patients from all sorts of diseases in this country.

A watch and wait until the **** hits the fans.

What an absolute ****e show.

More people are dying of catching COVID or getting seriously ill than bloody average Adverse reactions.

Madness

Cork2021 · 15-03-2021 06:27PM

This is a great picture! This is exactly why we need to get AZ back ASAP and get on with stopping this absolute shît show!

https://twitter.com/skepticaliddoc/status/1371118654302085121?s=21

Cork2021 · 15-03-2021 06:28PM

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Wow Favier on radio saying Doctors are right to be cautious and ultra conservative and leave hands off approach

This is exactly what kills patients from all sorts of diseases in this country.

A watch and wait until the **** hits the fans.

What an absolute ****e show.

More people are dying of catching COVID or getting seriously ill than bloody average Adverse reactions.

Madness

In my own words Favier is a gowl!! Possibly the least media savvy member of Nphet and always on the doom side of things

odyssey06 · 15-03-2021 06:30PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I got the flu vaccine for the last 6 years and we were asked each time to wait around for 15 minutes . Its pretty standard after a vaccine

I was asked if I had had the flu vaccine before, if I had I didn't have to wait around for 15 minutes. But first timers did.

ACitizenErased · 15-03-2021 06:33PM

WHO advises countries to keep using AZ vaccine

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1371514094059147267?s=20

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 15-03-2021 07:04PM

Jaysus, looking at Facebook today a lot of people expect Michael Martin to convince Joe Biden to hand us over a couple of million jabs during the St Paddy's Day Zoom call.

robinph · 15-03-2021 07:11PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I got the flu vaccine for the last 6 years and we were asked each time to wait around for 15 minutes . Its pretty standard after a vaccine

Never been asked to wait around after the flu vaccine in all my years of getting it which whilst I've not taken every year and can't remember when I first took it, I've been eligible for over 20 years. Can't remember being asked to hang around for some previous out of the ordinary vaccines either back in the day.

Last years flu vaccine took me about 5 minutes in total between leaving my front door and being back home again afterwards they were so efficient with getting people in and out.

Dressoutlet · 15-03-2021 07:20PM

robinph wrote: »

Never been asked to wait around after the flu vaccine in all my years of getting it which whilst I've not taken every year and can't remember when I first took it, I've been eligible for over 20 years. Can't remember being asked to hang around for some previous out of the ordinary vaccines either back in the day.

Last years flu vaccine took me about 5 minutes in total between leaving my front door and being back home again afterwards they were so efficient with getting people in and out.

I was asked this year just to stay close to the pharmacy for 10-15 mins.

Whenever my children are getting a new vaccine in the schedule I was told to wait for 10 mins just incase there was a reaction

salmocab · 15-03-2021 07:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

WHO advises countries to keep using AZ vaccine

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1371514094059147267?s=20

The words ‘for now’ won’t fill anyone with confidence

Call me Al · 15-03-2021 07:35PM

robinph wrote: »

Never been asked to wait around after the flu vaccine in all my years of getting it which whilst I've not taken every year and can't remember when I first took it, I've been eligible for over 20 years. Can't remember being asked to hang around for some previous out of the ordinary vaccines either back in the day.

Last years flu vaccine took me about 5 minutes in total between leaving my front door and being back home again afterwards they were so efficient with getting people in and out.

I'm shocked that they aren't asking you.
All flu vaccines I've had I've had to wait around after for 15 minutes.
Also my children, I've been asked to wait close by with them after every vaccines they've had - flu, hpv mmr.. everything.
It's in case of adverse reactions.

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 15-03-2021 07:43PM

How long are we suspending for? France are doing 24 hrs, Spain are doing 2 weeks.

is_that_so · 15-03-2021 07:45PM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

How long are we suspending for? France are doing 24 hrs, Spain are doing 2 weeks.

Until there's an EMA update on it. Yesterday it sounded like they didn't expect it to last more than this week.

Water John · 15-03-2021 07:53PM

Looks like we'll know by Thursday and likely to be a resumption.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-03-2021 07:55PM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

How long are we suspending for? France are doing 24 hrs, Spain are doing 2 weeks.

Until they complete their review.

I think they have a meeting on Thursday to discuss their findings.

Hopefully they have a decision then.

Cork2021 · 15-03-2021 07:56PM

Has anyone seen any Flu data lately? Was it eradicated completely this season?

Miike · 15-03-2021 07:59PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Has anyone seen any Flu data lately? Was it eradicated completely this season?

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/influenza/seasonalinfluenza/surveillance/influenzasurveillancereports/20202021season/Influenza_Surveillance_Report_Week%209%202021_finalv1.0.pdf

iamwhoiam · 15-03-2021 08:01PM

robinph wrote: »

Never been asked to wait around after the flu vaccine in all my years of getting it which whilst I've not taken every year and can't remember when I first took it, I've been eligible for over 20 years. Can't remember being asked to hang around for some previous out of the ordinary vaccines either back in the day.

Last years flu vaccine took me about 5 minutes in total between leaving my front door and being back home again afterwards they were so efficient with getting people in and out.

Asked every year to wait 15 minutes . They even had an area with two chairs so we could sit down and wait in the pharmacy . Quite shocked you haven’t ever been advised to wait around actually

PCeeeee · 15-03-2021 08:03PM

Call me Al wrote: »

I'm shocked that they aren't asking you.
All flu vaccines I've had I've had to wait around after for 15 minutes.
Also my children, I've been asked to wait close by with them after every vaccines they've had - flu, hpv mmr.. everything.
It's in case of adverse reactions.

I had a very similar experience to Robin. The priority was to get people in and out with as little contact as possible which I completely agree with under the circumstances.

The other patients I saw were elderly and vulnerable.

User142 · 15-03-2021 08:04PM

The lack of urgency summed up with the pausing of the vaccination of the medically vulnerable despite what the EMA and WHO say. Its currently deemed too risky to inoculate, with AZ, the people most likely to have a bad outcome if infected with Covid. Europe could not handle the vaccine rollout worse if they tried.

Water John · 15-03-2021 08:07PM

User142 wrote: »

The lack of urgency summed up with the pausing of the vaccination of the medically vulnerable despite what the EMA and WHO say. Its currently deemed too risky to inoculate, with AZ, the people most likely to have a bad outcome if infected with Covid. Europe could not handle the vaccine rollout worse if they tried.

They are also the group most at risk of any vaccine effects. Pause was a tough call to make, late Sat/Sun night. But will resume soon IWT and should take comfort from the speedy review.

Godot. · 15-03-2021 08:10PM

User142 wrote: »

The lack of urgency summed up with the pausing of the vaccination of the medically vulnerable despite what the EMA and WHO say. Its currently deemed too risky to inoculate, with AZ, the people most likely to have a bad outcome if infected with Covid. Europe could not handle the vaccine rollout worse if they tried.

If Johnson & Johnson hit the ground running next month a lot can be forgiven. If they don't the EU vaccination programme is without doubt a shambles.

Look how cohesive the US's vaccination programme has been. Joint together thinking, assisting in every stage of production with the private companies... something the EU should have been doing last year but only realised it in Feburary 2021.

Danzy · 15-03-2021 08:19PM

is_that_so wrote: »

. Health authorities need to understand that.

It's up to you to set the British and EU vaccination authorities straight.

Leave the immunology Professors, for now.

User142 · 15-03-2021 08:27PM

Godot. wrote: »

If Johnson & Johnson hit the ground running next month a lot can be forgiven. If they don't the EU vaccination programme is without doubt a shambles.

Look how cohesive the US's vaccination programme has been. Joint together thinking, assisting in every stage of production with the private companies... something the EU should have been doing last year but only realised it in Feburary 2021.

Ultimately, 30k doses is a just over a days vaccinations. So its really insignificant as we will catch up in no time. Its just another dose of bad news. The EU really needs a bit of good news sooner rather than later.

Goldengirl · 15-03-2021 08:33PM

Godot. wrote: »

If Johnson & Johnson hit the ground running next month a lot can be forgiven. If they don't the EU vaccination programme is without doubt a shambles.

Look how cohesive the US's vaccination programme has been. Joint together thinking, assisting in every stage of production with the private companies... something the EU should have been doing last year but only realised it in Feburary 2021.

I suppose its to makeup for their lack of organisation and joined up thinking for most of last year. , lets face it .

Goldengirl · 15-03-2021 08:38PM

Water John wrote: »

Looks like we'll know by Thursday and likely to be a resumption.

Prof Butler said " hopefully " but that she didn' t have a " crystal ball " to know exactly when .

Pete_Cavan · 15-03-2021 08:39PM

Godot. wrote: »

Look how cohesive the US's vaccination programme has been. Joint together thinking, assisting in every stage of production with the private companies... something the EU should have been doing last year but only realised it in Feburary 2021.

In fairness, at least 35m EU produced doses have been exported to various countries around the world. Plenty is being produced in the EU, they are just allowing others share in it until some.

Marhay70 · 15-03-2021 08:42PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

I suppose its to makeup for their lack of organisation and joined up thinking for most of last year. , lets face it .

It's not easy to run any sort of successful campaign when your boss is a raving lunatic, likely to upend the place in his next strop.

Goldengirl · 15-03-2021 08:46PM

Marhay70 wrote: »

It's not easy to run any sort of successful campaign when your boss is a raving lunatic, likely to upend the place in his next strop.

Exactly .
Now sanity prevails in spite of some of the followers of Chaos .

Van.Bosch · 15-03-2021 08:59PM

They should have the vaccines that were due to be given Sunday - Thursday all moved to some MVCs and vaccinate through the night on Thursday once they get the okay.

Headshot · 15-03-2021 09:16PM

Do we know when the over 70s with higher risks are due for the vaccine?

COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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