Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

Stheno · 14-03-2021 04:23PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Nah; no holes. All is sound and watertight. So far

Your posts demonstrate a complete lack of empathy and gratitude for the efforts made by a majority of the population to protect a minority, including you

User1998 · 14-03-2021 04:23PM

Graces7 wrote: »

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Not "sacrificing"; simply delaying. And covid is to blame for that. Not any policy.

It wlil take time and patience but the opportunities will still be there for the younger ones who after all have time on their side .

And yes it was and is about the greater good. In the real sense of that phrase. Any decent country would do the same. Protecting the old and disabled it a tenet of every civilised country and done willingly in a situation like this

As most folk have done, thankfully, without any grumbling, and God bless them!

Are you having a laugh? Simply delaying? I’ve just wasted a year of my life that is supposedly meant to be one of the best years of my life, protecting people that I don’t give a flying fcuk about. Easy for you to say when you’ve probably been sitting on your couch for the past 10 years of your life and probably haven’t even noticed that theres a lockdown. I’m locked in my house with nothing to do for the past year for a virus that gave me and my family a runny nose for a week.

Graces7 · 14-03-2021 04:23PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I think so, yeah.

There are shared negatives either way. Opening up would obviously improve the prospects of many businesses, but it wouldn't be a return to 2019.
There are a lot of people, like me, who would not partake in any of it until it's safe to do so. Whether that's because they're vulnerable, or they want to protect the vulnerable.

Many businesses would likely find that even though they can now operate again, they no longer have a viable business because they don't have enough customers.

Wise words. Life is never going to be as it was pre-covid. That needs to be understood.

Love and leave you. God bless all here.

Stormyteacup · 14-03-2021 04:24PM

Graces7 wrote: »

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Not "sacrificing"; simply delaying. And covid is to blame for that. Not any policy.

It wlil take time and patience but the opportunities will still be there for the younger ones who after all have time on their side .

And yes it was and is about the greater good. In the real sense of that phrase. Any decent country would do the same. Protecting the old and disabled it a tenet of every civilised country and done willingly in a situation like this

As most folk have done, thankfully, without any grumbling, and God bless them!

Well it’s a nice thought and early solidarity was good to see. But there is no way if we knew as much as we do now about this virus back in March 2020 we would have followed the same path.

There would be some restrictions and protective measures, sure, but if the true cost/benefit analysis was possible to have been done 12 months ago we would be in a very different place right now. As someone said ‘a failed dogma’. Government have painted themselves into a corner and have no choice but to wait for the paint to dry.

ypres5 · 14-03-2021 04:26PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Wise words. Life is never going to be as it was pre-covid. That needs to be understood.

Love and leave you. God bless all here.

so long as you're looked after i doubt you care how the rest of us fare so keep your blessings

walus · 14-03-2021 04:27PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I think so, yeah.

There are shared negatives either way. Opening up would obviously improve the prospects of many businesses, but it wouldn't be a return to 2019.
There are a lot of people, like me, who would not partake in any of it until it's safe to do so. Whether that's because they're vulnerable, or they want to protect the vulnerable.

Many businesses would likely find that even though they can now operate again, they no longer have a viable business because they don't have enough customers.

It seems as if you are extrapolating the behaviour of the masses based on sample size one - i.e. your own. Additionally statements like ‘a lot’ and ‘likely’ don’t give it much credibility. How can you tell how other 4.9m would behave?

TonyMaloney · 14-03-2021 04:34PM

walus wrote: »

I’m not talking about vaccines. You said that there are upsides to lockdown, and that included fewer deaths.

So what is the upside of a lockdown?

I think you should go back to my original post.

I'm specifically talking about lockdown as vaccines are going into arms.
And it is unquestionable that this specific lockdown is saving lives because of vaccines.

The longer we hold out the more lives we save. The only question is how long do we hold out?

Kermit.de.frog · 14-03-2021 04:35PM

User1998 wrote: »

Are you having a laugh? Simply delaying? I’ve just wasted a year of my life that is supposedly meant to be one of the best years of my life, protecting people that I don’t give a flying fcuk about. Easy for you to say when you’ve probably been sitting on your couch for the past 10 years of your life and probably haven’t even noticed that theres a lockdown. I’m locked in my house with nothing to do for the past year for a virus that gave me and my family a runny nose for a week.

Hold on while I reach for the world's smallest violin...

User1998 · 14-03-2021 04:43PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Hold on while I reach for the world's smallest violin...

I had to drop out of college because online learning was impossible for me

Broken up with partner for reasons directly related to restrictions

Lost my job due to the sector being forced to close

Barely get to see my friends

Mental health the worst its ever been

Genuinely have no reason to get out of bed

Go on, start playing the violin, it will make me and a large proportion of the population feel great again

walus · 14-03-2021 04:44PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I think you should go back to my original post.

I'm specifically talking about lockdown as vaccines are going into arms.
And it is unquestionable that this specific lockdown is saving lives because of vaccines.

The longer we hold out the more lives we save. The only question is how long do we hold out?

Vaccines will be saving lives with and without the lockdown. While I understand your point now, there is no need to drag lockdown into this.

SnuggyBear · 14-03-2021 04:44PM

User1998 wrote: »

I had to drop out of college because online learning was impossible for me

Broken up with partner for reasons directly related to restrictions

Lost my job due to the sector being forced to close

Barely get to see my friends

Mental health the worst its ever been

Genuinely have no reason to get out of bed

Go on, start playing the violin, it will make me and a large proportion of the population feel great again

There's no point talking to him. Some people are like robots.

SnuggyBear · 14-03-2021 04:51PM

Anyone else imagine kermit sitting in his room with bottles of his piss all around him

CalamariFritti · 14-03-2021 04:52PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I think you should go back to my original post.

I'm specifically talking about lockdown as vaccines are going into arms.
And it is unquestionable that this specific lockdown is saving lives because of vaccines.

The longer we hold out the more lives we save. The only question is how long do we hold out?

But all this is based on assumptions and models that never came true. How many lives were saved nobody knows. Impossible to quantify with the most vulnerable to covid being in or around life expectancy and the constant fogging up of any hard numbers. We lost 4,500 to covid, on paper, but we know that is a bollix number when at the same time nobody dies of any other respiratory disease anymore

What we do know is that 5 million people's life has been put on hold for a year now. Countless livelihoods destroyed. Hundreds of thousands out of work. Massive damage to democracy. Massive debt added (leading to less money available for things like health in the future). Loads of health issues (without a doubt even deaths) arising from empty hospitals that were kept free for the onslaught that never came. Now birthrates are plummeting too.
The true fallout from this massive overreaction that was then turned into a dogma will not be known for years.

Multipass · 14-03-2021 04:53PM

User1998 wrote: »

I had to drop out of college because online learning was impossible for me

Broken up with partner for reasons directly related to restrictions

Lost my job due to the sector being forced to close

Barely get to see my friends

Mental health the worst its ever been

Genuinely have no reason to get out of bed

Go on, start playing the violin, it will make me and a large proportion of the population feel great again

Sorry to hear that, I can relate to many of those. And also listening to people talk about travel like it’s just sun holidays. A young relative of mine has been diagnosed with a terminal illness. She’s in the UK, time is ticking away and I can’t get there. Screw yer man’s tiny violin.

walus · 14-03-2021 04:54PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

There's absolutely no way restaurants, bars/pubs, cafes, salons, barbers, cinemas etc would all struggle to get customers right now.

Of course. If you explained the risk involved i.e. that for most (<65) dying from covid is less likely than dying in a cycling accident, people would return to their normal ways, and those businesses would be busy again.

RobitTV · 14-03-2021 04:54PM

It really is astonishing to see the level of middle class snobbery that still remains within our society. I come from a middle class background, and it's truly sad to see the level of snobbery and begrudgery that runs within the blood of Irish society and on this thread.

As long as you have your life sorted out and have a family, house and a car then some people don't care about other people. They don't share the same life experiences as many younger people or less well off families.

They despise surrounding themselves with ordinary people. They despise Irish culture. The true colours of the snobbery brigade have been shown throughout this last year.

Don't expect any sympathy or compassion from these people. They have been exposed. They are the true definition of selfish and self absorbed.

Mental health is not important to these people.

Multipass · 14-03-2021 04:56PM

walus wrote: »

Of course. If you explained the risk involved i.e. that for most (<65) dying from covid is less likely than dying in a cycling accident, people would return to their normal ways, and those businesses would be busy again.

A lot of over 65s would be there too. Garden centre near me is very busy, mostly older people out and about.

retro:electro · 14-03-2021 04:58PM

User1998 wrote: »

I had to drop out of college because online learning was impossible for me

Broken up with partner for reasons directly related to restrictions

Lost my job due to the sector being forced to close

Barely get to see my friends

Mental health the worst its ever been

Genuinely have no reason to get out of bed

Go on, start playing the violin, it will make me and a large proportion of the population feel great again

I’m sorry all of that happened to you and I genuinely hope this year is a better one

Whatsisname · 14-03-2021 04:58PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Anyone else imagine kermit sitting in his room with bottles of his piss all around him

walus · 14-03-2021 04:58PM

Multipass wrote: »

A lot of over 65s would be there too. Garden centre near me is very busy, mostly older people out and about.

Sure, they don’t give a toss about this ‘pandemic’ at this stage either. I limited the age to 65 as that is the point where the risk curve starts going up and covid becomes as risky as a motorcycle ride.

Kermit.de.frog · 14-03-2021 05:00PM

User1998 wrote: »

I had to drop out of college because online learning was impossible for me

Broken up with partner for reasons directly related to restrictions

Lost my job due to the sector being forced to close

Barely get to see my friends

Mental health the worst its ever been

Genuinely have no reason to get out of bed

Go on, start playing the violin, it will make me and a large proportion of the population feel great again

You just said in your original post you don't give a fcuk about anyone else. Your words.

So why should we care the other way around?

On top of that bad things happen in life all the time, we are in a pandemic.

You expect plain sailing in crisis?

ShyMets · 14-03-2021 05:01PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You just said in you're post you don't give a fcuk about anyone else. Your words.

So why so why should we care the other way around?

On top of that bad things happen in life all the time, we are in a pandemic.

You expect plain sailing in crisis?

Jesus. Even for you that shows a shocking lack of empathy

RobitTV · 14-03-2021 05:02PM

Shocking level snobbery on here today. This has got to be a new record.

Awful.

themacattack. · 14-03-2021 05:03PM

Multipass wrote: »

A lot of over 65s would be there too. Garden centre near me is very busy, mostly older people out and about.

yea its funny that the people we are supposedly trying to protect by the failed lockdown are some of the biggest lockdown sceptics and are as active and socialising away with the best of them and i say more power to them...i would not want to give up what could be my most precious years by staying housebound and a prisoner in my own home...someone in my family has a construction job and classed as vulnerable went back to work weeks ago...66 years old using his common sense

ypres5 · 14-03-2021 05:03PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

There's no point talking to him. Some people are like robots.

don't compare kermit to a robot, robots actually serve a function

Enter name here · 14-03-2021 05:03PM

User1998 wrote: »

I had to drop out of college because online learning was impossible for me

Broken up with partner for reasons directly related to restrictions

Lost my job due to the sector being forced to close

Barely get to see my friends

Mental health the worst its ever been

Genuinely have no reason to get out of bed

Go on, start playing the violin, it will make me and a large proportion of the population feel great again

Yes everyone is to blame except yourself. Ever thought you were the common denominator in all of those scenario's?.

Kermit.de.frog · 14-03-2021 05:04PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Jesus. Even for you that shows a shocking lack of empathy

The poster is question has anything but empathy for anyone else according to his original post.

He is more than welcome to clarify on everyone he doesn't care about.

ShyMets · 14-03-2021 05:05PM

Enter name here wrote: »

Yes everyone is to blame except yourself. Ever thought you were the common denominator in all of those scenario's?.

Now that's just nasty and a di*kish thing to say

RobitTV · 14-03-2021 05:06PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The poster is question has anything but empathy for anyone else according to his original post.

He is more than welcome to clarify on everyone he doesn't care about.

You act the exact same. So you can hardly talk.

When was the last time you showed empathy? let's get some clarity from you.

User1998 · 14-03-2021 05:09PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You just said in you're post you don't give a fcuk about anyone else. Your words.

So why should we care the other way around?

On top of that bad things happen in life all the time, we are in a pandemic.

You expect plain sailing in crisis?

As blunt as it sounds, I don’t really care about people that I’ve never met in my life. I only care about myself and my family

If someone said to you, you can either be locked in your home for the next 12+ months, or someone who you have never met before, who is probably already very frail, and very old, may die, what would you chose?

I probably know what you would choose, but for the vast majority the answer would be different

I didn’t come on here looking for sympathy, nor do I want any. But when a large proportion of the population feels the same way as I do there’s clearly a big problem there.

I’m blocking you after this post so please don’t reply

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