Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Kermit.de.frog

I’ve just wasted a year of my life that is supposedly meant to be one of the best years of my life, protecting people that I don’t give a flying fcuk about

Have empathy and sympathy for this poster? I don't think so.

Again welcome to clarify.

TonyMaloney

walus wrote: »

It seems as if you are extrapolating the behaviour of the masses based on sample size one - i.e. your own. Additionally statements like ‘a lot’ and ‘likely’ don’t give it much credibility. How can you tell how other 4.9m would behave?

I am doing just that. Anecdotally it seems there were a lot of people who didn't visit pubs or restaurants at Christmas, and an even larger cohort that did visit them but on a very limited basis.

So yeah it's just a theory of mine, but I think it's pretty sound. Even if you fully open up, economic activity won't return to a healthy level until people believe that they're safe.

RobitTV

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Have empathy and sympathy for this poster? I don't think so.

Again welcome to clarify.

When was the last time you showed empathy? let's get some clarity from you.

ypres5

User1998 wrote: »

As blunt as it sounds, I don’t really care about people that I’ve never met in my life. I only care about myself and my family

If someone said to you, you can either be locked in your home for the next 12+ months, or someone who you have never met before, who is probably very frail, and very old, may die, what would you chose?

I probably know what you would choose, but for the vast majority the answer would be different

I didn’t come on here looking for sympathy, nor do I want any. But when a large proportion of the population feels the same way as I do there’s clearly a big problem there.

I’m blocking you after this post so please don’t reply

that's the only course of action to take with kermit don't feed him

Enter name here

ShyMets wrote: »

Now that's just nasty and a di*kish thing to say

Sorry the truth hurts, the age of woke-ism truly astounds me. The reason we are in a constant state of lockdown is because most people like the OP say **** everyone it doesn't affect me and do as they like. Maybe if people started doing as they were fking told almost 12 months ago we would be open like our counterparts in the southern hemisphere.

ShyMets

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry the truth hurts, the age of woke-ism truly astounds me. The reason we are in a constant state of lockdown is because most people like the OP say **** everyone it doesn't affect me and do as they like. Maybe if people started doing as they were fking told almost 12 months ago we would be open like our counterparts in the southern hemisphere.

Truth hurts. How do you know what your saying is the truth

Kermit.de.frog

User1998 wrote: »

As blunt as it sounds, I don’t really care about people that I’ve never met in my life. I only care about myself and my family

By extension why should I or anyone else care about you?

We don't know you, we've never met you.

I'm just applying your own standard.

themacattack.

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry the truth hurts, the age of woke-ism truly astounds me. The reason we are in a constant state of lockdown is because most people like the OP say **** everyone it doesn't affect me and do as they like. Maybe if people started doing as they were fking told almost 12 months ago we would be open like our counterparts in the southern hemisphere.

what were we told 12 months ago that we did not do?

RobitTV

Kermit.de.frog

When was the last time you showed empathy? let's get some clarity from you.

I'm just applying your own standard.

Third time asking this question.

LessOutragePlz

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry the truth hurts, the age of woke-ism truly astounds me. The reason we are in a constant state of lockdown is because most people like the OP say **** everyone it doesn't affect me and do as they like. Maybe if people started doing as they were fking told almost 12 months ago we would be open like our counterparts in the southern hemisphere.

The compliance with the initial lockdown was extremely high, so to say people weren't doing as they were told is complete bullsh1t.

Blaming the people instead of the government that have been in charge of this whole mess is fairly typical from a number of posters such as yourself.

Was it the Irish people that let people travel into Ireland and do as they pleases and travel wherever they wanted over the last 12 months?

Was it the Irish people that let over 2,000 Brazilians arrive into the country a few weeks ago knowing that there was a Brazilian variant here?

Was it the Irish people that moved elderly and vulnerable people from hospitals into nursing homes when this all started leading to high death tolls in Irish nursing homes?

Enter name here

themacattack. wrote: »

what were we told 12 months ago that we did not do?

Stay home, essential journeys, wear masks just to name a few. But no we had the woke brigade at BLM protests, we had to open up at Christmas so everyone could see their mammy, more protests in Dublin, college kids throwing endless house parties, groups of teenagers in every village congregating and doing as they please, travellers doing what they do best which is ignoring everyone and carrying on.
The only thing i find remotely entertaining is that the same idiots that have prolonged this lockdown are going to spend the rest of their working lives paying for it. So I suppose karma is a truly wonderful thing.

ypres5

Enter name here wrote: »

Stay home, essential journeys, wear masks just to name a few. But no we had the woke brigade at BLM protests, we had to open up at Christmas so everyone could see their mammy, more protests in Dublin, college kids throwing endless house parties, groups of teenagers in every village congregating and doing as they please, travellers doing what they do best which is ignoring everyone and carrying on.
The only thing i find remotely entertaining is that the same idiots that have prolonged this lockdown are going to spend the rest of their working lives paying for it. So I suppose karma is a truly wonderful thing.

do you get paid for every post you shoehorn the word woke into?

Kermit.de.frog

RobitTV wrote: »

Kermit.de.frog

When was the last time you showed empathy? let's get some clarity from you.

I'm just applying your own standard.

I show empathy all the time just not with grumpy posters.

If they are flustered but selfish I don't see how they owed empathy.

If they want to be compassionate and understanding of vulnerable people while making arguments they'll get a lot of empathy from me.

If they literally, as above, start out with "I care about no one else now here is my story..." then no.

ShyMets

In the last hour this thread has become more of a train wreck then usual

mightyreds

Enter name here wrote: »

Stay home, essential journeys, wear masks just to name a few. But no we had the woke brigade at BLM protests, we had to open up at Christmas so everyone could see their mammy, more protests in Dublin, college kids throwing endless house parties, groups of teenagers in every village congregating and doing as they please, travellers doing what they do best which is ignoring everyone and carrying on.
The only thing i find remotely entertaining is that the same idiots that have prolonged this lockdown are going to spend the rest of their working lives paying for it. So I suppose karma is a truly wonderful thing.

And now, we move on, to liars

User1998

Enter name here wrote: »

Sorry the truth hurts, the age of woke-ism truly astounds me. The reason we are in a constant state of lockdown is because most people like the OP say **** everyone it doesn't affect me and do as they like. Maybe if people started doing as they were fking told almost 12 months ago we would be open like our counterparts in the southern hemisphere.

I’ve barely left my house in the past year. I am definitely not the reason for this constant lockdown

themacattack.

Enter name here wrote: »

Stay home, essential journeys, wear masks just to name a few. But no we had the woke brigade at BLM protests, we had to open up at Christmas so everyone could see their mammy, more protests in Dublin, college kids throwing endless house parties, groups of teenagers in every village congregating and doing as they please, travellers doing what they do best which is ignoring everyone and carrying on.
The only thing i find remotely entertaining is that the same idiots that have prolonged this lockdown are going to spend the rest of their working lives paying for it. So I suppose karma is a truly wonderful thing.

yes yes yes blame the people...nothing got to do with our government or nphet? people were highly compliant until recently...if you want a proper lockdown head over to china they will accomadate you...lockdown was never a good or worthy solution in the first place and the penny has dropped for most and now compliance is gone out the window...history will look at this time as the biggest over reaction in human history

growleaves

Enter name here wrote: »

Stay home, essential journeys, wear masks just to name a few. But no we had the woke brigade at BLM protests, we had to open up at Christmas so everyone could see their mammy, more protests in Dublin, college kids throwing endless house parties, groups of teenagers in every village congregating and doing as they please, travellers doing what they do best which is ignoring everyone and carrying on.
The only thing i find remotely entertaining is that the same idiots that have prolonged this lockdown are going to spend the rest of their working lives paying for it. So I suppose karma is a truly wonderful thing.

The policy is a failure because cancelling human nature isn't possible. All the containment methods are entirely theoretical and are based, at best, on dubious models with no solid proof that they do much of anything. It is you and people like you who placed a debt millstone around all our necks. Congratulations on destroying the country and I'm glad you get a sense of satisfaction from it.

bb1234567

UDAWINNER wrote: »

I don't wish to be rude but do you have parents, elderly relatives or anyone in the vunerable category who are alive as you seem to say it's a bad thing they were protected. A society is meant to look out for the vunerable not just people who give out because they can' have drink, a haircut or a feckin foreign holiday for a while

Should a society be expected to do that, at the expense of everything, and every other group that makes up the society though? It's not viable to do that for such a long period of time, as we can see now. Society did give so much for so long, and that was an amazing show of empathy and solidarity by the nation, we are only seeing support starting to slip now, which shows how determined most people were to help reduce the burden of COVID for so long. But now as we head into over a year of our lives disrupted for it, it's just getting harder to justify with each passsing week.

And besides, did Ireland protect it's vulnerable effectively after all that, it has to be asked.With by far the longest lockdown in Europe, we have seen 915 COVID deaths per million, vs the EU average of 1600 COVID deaths per million. Decent bit lower yeh, but has to be remembered that part of this is also surely down to the fact Ireland has by far the youngest population in the EU.

Enter name here

ypres5 wrote: »

do you get paid for every post you shoehorn the word woke into?

Why do you get offended every time I mention it? It's unsustainable to maintain a society of the beliefs of a minority, but time and time again we pander to the left to appease them. Sorry but I would love nothing more than to see anarchy reign down on us and let the strong survive and finally be done with the word you despise.

RobitTV

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I show empathy all the time just not with grumpy posters.

If they are flustered but selfish I don't see how they owed empathy.

If they want to be compassionate and understanding of vulnerable people while making arguments they'll get a lot of empathy from me.

If they literally, as above, start out with, as above "I care about no one else now here is my story..." then no.

"I show empathy all the time"

Any proof of this? we would all love to see. You don't have the best track record when it comes to empathy.

ShyMets

ShyMets wrote: »

In the last hour this thread has become more of a train wreck then usual

It has been deliberately derailed in a blatant effort to antagonise posters and get the thread locked. Don't engage inflammatory drivel.

ypres5

Enter name here wrote: »

Why do you get offended every time I mention it? It's unsustainable to maintain a society of the beliefs of a minority, but time and time again we pander to the left to appease them. Sorry but I would love nothing more than to see anarchy reign down on us and let the strong survive and finally be done with the word you despise.

brilliant breitbart has sprung a leak

Enter name here

themacattack. wrote: »

yes yes yes blame the people...nothing got to do with our government or nphet? people were highly compliant until recently...if you want a proper lockdown head over to china they will accomadate you...lockdown was never a good or worthy solution in the first place and the penny has dropped for most and now compliance is gone out the window...history will look at this time as the biggest over reaction in human history

Agreed in time history we look back on this period as the most over entitled and naive generation that ever graced humanity. See people like your self and many others now don't worry about facts and truths they simply contrive to create falsehoods and beliefs.

Kermit.de.frog

RobitTV wrote: »

"I show empathy all the time"

Any proof of this? we would all love to see.

If you talking about this particular thread I don't see much empathy from the other side toward the vulnerable groups so naturally there wouldn't be much in return from me.

You are literally defending a poster who just said he didn't care about anyone else and you're saying I have lack of empathy....

Anything to suit your narrative.

growleaves

Enter name here wrote: »

Why do you get offended every time I mention it? It's unsustainable to maintain a society of the beliefs of a minority, but time and time again we pander to the left to appease them. Sorry but I would love nothing more than to see anarchy reign down on us and let the strong survive and finally be done with the word you despise.

'Woke' beliefs are the vanguard of politically correct left-radical opinions.

All the woke people are pro-lockdown because they (correctly) perceive that direct bureaucratic control over every aspect of people's lives represents a political advance for left-wing control of culture and economics.

themacattack.

Enter name here wrote: »

Agreed in time history we look back on this period as the most over entitled and naive generation that ever graced humanity. See people like your self and many others now don't worry about facts and truths they simply contrive to create falsehoods and beliefs.

what are you going on about...im living in the real word here and lockdowns are not working,wakey wakey time to get up pal

RobitTV

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

If you talking about this particular thread I don't see much empathy from the other side toward the vulnerable groups so naturally there wouldn't be much in return from me.

You are literally defending a poster who just said he didn't care about anyone else and you're saying I have lack of empathy....

Anything to suit your narrative.

I'm not defending anybody. You are the one who earlier criticised him for not showing empathy, while at the same time you have never shown an ounce of empathy.

I'm just attempting to get some clarity as to when you have previously shown empathy. It's rather unusual for you of all people to be critical of somebody else in the empathy department.

This all comes after you said earlier you do show empathy. I'm glad if that is the case.

Kermit.de.frog

growleaves wrote: »

'Woke' beliefs are the vanguard of politically correct left-radical opinions.

All the woke people are pro-lockdown because they (correctly) perceive that direct bureaucratic control over every aspect of people's lives represents a political advance for left-wing control of culture and economics.

Never been accused of being left wing on boards before! Slightly left of center once now that I think of it.

I prefer to be on the right or wrong scale rather than the left or right scale myself.

Politics is nothing to do with it.

The restrictions enjoy widespread political support. It's not left or right.

Enter name here

themacattack. wrote: »

what are you going on about...im living in the real word here and lockdowns are not working,wakey wakey time to get up pal

Agreed they are not working as I have said many times before, because the Irish as far to intelligent and know much more than anyone else on how to control it. How do you think countries like Australia and New Zealand controlled it so easily compared to us?