The prom (COVID closed 31 March 2020, reopened 18 May)

Whereisgalway · 18-06-2020 6:22am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Anyone who was reversing fast enough to get that far onto the rocks at that point lacks basic vehicle control skills. Sad if s/he had those skills but has now lost them - but the aging process affects everyone and the RSA regularly take licences off people who have become a danger to themselves and others.

And yes, car drivers have to be licenced. That licence can be be removed. Unlike bicycle drivers, who can continue no matter how incompetent. So I do feel safer around car drivers.

heard the car malfunctioned. Come down off your high horse til all the facts come out

Snow Garden · 18-06-2020 9:17am

Will it ever be safe to walk the prom again? Ever?
Unlikely, they should bite the bullet and just plough it all into the sea. Footpath, railings, walkers, dog poo, swimmers, rocks, moaners....the whole damn lot.

Storm 10 · 18-06-2020 10:21am

Rodin wrote: »

New as soon as I saw the story that it was going to be an elderly driver.
They're a scourge.

More over 65s die on the roads than any other age group.

Every driver should have passed a test and should be mandatory retesting over a certain age.

I am sure the though crossed your mind that some day you will be elderly and you will want to be driving your car around, also posting with out knowing the facts is just stupid, the car had a malfunction which caused the problem, thank God they are ok. Have you parents that drive

Mrs OBumble · 18-06-2020 12:29pm

Rodin wrote: »

More over 65s die on the roads than any other age group.

Every driver should have passed a test and should be mandatory retesting over a certain age.

In fairness, more over 65s die than any other age group, from any cause.

And if it was a vehicle malfunction, then I expect we'll be seeing a major recall of that make / model very shortly.

18-06-2020 2:08pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And if it was a vehicle malfunction, then I expect we'll be seeing a major recall of that make / model very shortly.

Not if its just some failure due to some wear and tear item, not maintained etc which is far more likely than a manufacturer fault.

JoeA3 · 18-06-2020 2:28pm

It appears to be an old Nissan Primera, i.e. banger territory or very close to it. There's not going to be a major recall. :pac:

My guess is, the poor old guy was probably trying to do a U-turn when pulling in or moving into a parking spot by the footpath and he over-egged it in reverse gear or maybe his foot slipped off the clutch or something like that. He was fortunate no one was behind him for sure.

Storm 10 · 18-06-2020 3:20pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

In fairness, more over 65s die than any other age group, from any cause.

And if it was a vehicle malfunction, then I expect we'll be seeing a major recall of that make / model very shortly.

Good job your not in charge of car recalls, if you would recall every car that would have a malfunction on a daily basis

zell12 · 06-01-2021 6:11am

Have to say, it's a delight seeing Salthill so 'open' without all the parked cars spoiling the view. It really changes the tone and landscape of the place
Should be made permanent

Storm 10 · 06-01-2021 9:16am

zell12 wrote: »

Have to say, it's a delight seeing Salthill so 'open' without all the parked cars spoiling the view. It really changes the tone and landscape of the place
Should be made permanent

If you were in business there you would not say that

ben.schlomo · 06-01-2021 9:23am

Storm 10 wrote: »

If you were in business there you would not say that

They've removed the car parks have they?

06-01-2021 9:36am

ben.schlomo wrote: »

They've removed the car parks have they?

They've closed off the car parks.

Edit: Obviously that wouldn't be permanent!

ben.schlomo · 06-01-2021 9:50am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They've closed off the car parks.

Edit: Obviously that wouldn't be permanent!

Really? That wasn't mentioned last week unless I missed it,all they were doing was removing the parking along the Prom.

WallyGUFC · 06-01-2021 10:18am

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Really? That wasn't mentioned last week unless I missed it,all they were doing was removing the parking along the Prom.

Parking at the Aquarium and across from the cinema gone too. Plenty just parking at Leisureland instead.

Storm 10 · 06-01-2021 10:57am

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Parking at the Aquarium and across from the cinema gone too. Plenty just parking at Leisureland instead.

There is appx 100 spaces at leisureland and that's it for Salthill at present

06-01-2021 11:21am

Strange the city council blocked the parking, don't see anything in the government framework to dictate that. I know the gardai requested (not ordered) it but since when do they get involved in public health advice.

It's a pity they blocked that coastal cycle lane last year, businesses wouldn't have as much impact from restricted parking again this year. Businesses in Dublin are doing very well along the route where they brought that in.

what_traffic · 06-01-2021 11:32am

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a pity they blocked that coastal cycle lane last year, businesses wouldn't have as much impact from restricted parking again this year. Businesses in Dublin are doing very well along the route where they brought that in.

Interesting observation - you are probably right if one took a long term vision of it, unfortunately our authorities here are very reactive rather than pro-active.

Mrs OBumble · 06-01-2021 11:52am

zell12 wrote: »

Have to say, it's a delight seeing Salthill so 'open' without all the parked cars spoiling the view. It really changes the tone and landscape of the place
Should be made permanent

There are lots of amenities that would be great if they were restricted to people who live within walking distance only.

But that's not really how cities work.

Has bicycle parking also been blocked off?

?Cee?view · 06-01-2021 11:56am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

There are lots of amenities that would be great if they were restricted to people who live within walking distance only.

But that's not really how cities work.

Has bicycle parking also been blocked off?

What a ridiculous suggestion! The bi-cyclers are wholesome, pure and good, and nothing should be done to inconvenience them in the same way as the users of other modes of transport.

what_traffic · 06-01-2021 12:17pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Has bicycle parking also been blocked off?

it has. See Blackrock if ya can walk that far

?Cee?view · 06-01-2021 12:19pm

what_traffic wrote: »

See Blackrock if ya can walk that far

Lovely

06-01-2021 12:26pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Has bicycle parking also been blocked off?

Not really, there's bike parking in the carpark with the entrance blocked but easily accessible by bike. I think the racks at Blackrock might be behind barriers now too.

Don't see why they'd block them though since the government Level 5 transport advice is "walk or cycle where possible".

what_traffic · 06-01-2021 12:35pm

?Cee?view wrote: »

Lovely

Lovely day for a walk alright.

Mrs OBumble · 06-01-2021 1:52pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Don't see why they'd block them though since the government Level 5 transport advice is "walk or cycle where possible".

It's actually walk or cycle where possible instead of using public transport, which is now reserved for essential journeys.

Parking in Salthill has been removed to encourage people to stay within 5km of home. All modes should be equally affected, to allow those within walking distance plenty of space.

Personally Blackrock is within my 5km, so I might consider a weekend stroll if it warms up.

06-01-2021 2:42pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's actually walk or cycle where possible instead of using public transport, which is now reserved for essential journeys.

Bus stops and bike parking should remain open everywhere. If you don't drive and need to do a grocery shop, getting on the bike is the safer option and to be encouraged over public transport.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Personally Blackrock is within my 5km, so I might consider a weekend stroll if it warms up.

Blackrock is within 5km of almost half the city population! It's within the restrictions for tens of thousands of people.

Are you within walking distance of Blackrock? That seems to be the travel restriction the city council are working off rather than the government framework. The prom is still busy with parking blocked.

Why not just widen the prom into the blocked parking spaces, making the prom safer and allow people to get healthy exercise for the body and mind. Also open the carparks for badge holders.

06-01-2021 4:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Blackrock is within 5km of almost half the city population! It's within the restrictions for tens of thousands of people.

Yup

Deleted User wrote: »

Why not just widen the prom into the blocked parking spaces, making the prom safer and allow people to get healthy exercise for the body and mind. Also open the carparks for badge holders.

The strategy right now is to reduce mobility for as many people as possible to reduce the spread. What you are suggesting would enable additional mobility, which, while not a bad thing generally, is not something to be considered at level 5.

As for badge holders, those would be among the highest vulnerabilities and would be strongly recommended to remain isolated unless absolutely necessary.

A stroll along the prom is something most can forego for a few weeks

zell12 · 06-01-2021 6:13pm

More anti-parking wands installed along golf course wall. What is going on?

06-01-2021 7:17pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The strategy right now is to reduce mobility for as many people as possible to reduce the spread. What you are suggesting would enable additional mobility, which, while not a bad thing generally, is not something to be considered at level 5.

Yeah that's fair. Probably more suited to Level 4 to 3 as people start mixing again but try to keep social distancing as people get out for exercise on a wider prom. Maybe even a one way system, go west on the old prom and return by the road.

We should open up the 2 actual car parks then too, and parking on the village-side by the aquarium.

Mrs OBumble · 06-01-2021 11:06pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe even a one way system, go west on the old prom and return by the road.

Or on the empty footpath on the other side of the road.

Most pedestrians cannot even manage to keep left on existing footpaths, or to follow on-floor arrows in shopping centres. I doubt they'll be disciplined about an artificial distinction on the prom.

Far better to simply take walks on one of the many non-sea-front routes. An added bonus is that these actually have some (admittedly gentle) hills in them so do actually provide a bit of real exercise.

07-01-2021 12:26am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Most pedestrians cannot even manage to keep left on existing footpaths

Since when is keeping left on footpaths a thing?

what_traffic · 07-01-2021 10:37am

zell12 wrote: »

More anti-parking wands installed along golf course wall. What is going on?

Preparation for a NEW footpath from Spinnaker to Blackrock Diving tower?

?Cee?view · 07-01-2021 4:19pm

zell12 wrote: »

More anti-parking wands installed along golf course wall. What is going on?

People shouldn't be parking there and it's been very full since legal parking was blocked off a few days ago on the prom. In addition, it rips up all the grass and leaves a complete mess.

A friend was highly indignant at being ticketed there a few weeks ago. She hadn't a clue what she had done wrong!

buzz11 · 03-03-2021 11:13pm

Heard today that Seamount (off Threadneedle rd) is introducing clamping to deter prom visitors from parking there, I'm not surprised, Threadneedle rd is a real bottleneck at the moment

zell12 · 04-03-2021 5:25am

buzz11 wrote: »

Heard today that Seamount (off Threadneedle rd) is introducing clamping to deter prom visitors from parking there, I'm not surprised, Threadneedle rd is a real bottleneck at the moment

Is it not a public road? Therefore, they can't do that

cfeeneyinterior · 04-03-2021 8:24am

zell12 wrote: »

Is it not a public road? Therefore, they can't do that

It's an estate so they would be. Dun na carraige been doing it for years. They need to put in double yellow along the main road down to the roundabout, really tight with cars on both sides.

04-03-2021 8:47am

Unfortunately it seems to be necessary, people driving to Salthill and leaving their cars on nearby roads.

They should open up the main prom car park for badge holders only while parking is restricted.

?Cee?view · 04-03-2021 11:59am

cfeeneyinterior wrote: »

It's an estate so they would be. Dun na carraige been doing it for years. They need to put in double yellow along the main road down to the roundabout, really tight with cars on both sides.

Not necessarily. Most older estates wouldn't have private roads. Dun na Carraige is a much newer estate.

cfeeneyinterior · 04-03-2021 1:22pm

?Cee?view wrote: »

Not necessarily. Most older estates wouldn't have private roads. Dun na Carraige is a much newer estate.

I am sure the clampers would be aware

what_traffic · 04-03-2021 1:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Unfortunately it seems to be necessary, people driving to Salthill and leaving their cars on nearby roads.

They should open up the main prom car park for badge holders only while parking is restricted.

Ya 100% agree, need more innovation from the Council. It would be a good facility to have in place post pandemic regardless

cfeeneyinterior · 05-03-2021 8:36am

https://connachttribune.ie/residents-call-in-the-clampers-to-sort-problem-parking/

zell12 · 05-03-2021 10:24am

what_traffic wrote: »

Ya 100% agree, need more innovation from the Council. It would be a good facility to have in place post pandemic regardless

I disagree, it's a huge area for people to play around in on the sea front, rather then facilitating the storage of personal private property.

zell12 · 05-03-2021 10:28am

buzz11 wrote: »

Heard today that Seamount (off Threadneedle rd) is introducing clamping to deter prom visitors from parking there, I'm not surprised, Threadneedle rd is a real bottleneck at the moment

Turns out:

Seamount is a private estate and the road has not been taken in charge by the Council. The residents have clubbed together and hired a clamping company, which will erect signs in the coming days and begin clamping illegally parked cars from next week.

05-03-2021 10:52am

Isn't that what buzz11 said?

I wonder if this will cause a wave of private estates introducing clamping as inconsiderate parkers get pushed from residential streets.

zell12 · 05-03-2021 11:00am

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't that what buzz11 said?
I wonder if this will cause a wave of private estates introducng clamping as inconsiderate parkers get pushed from residential streets.

Seamount is a pretty old estate, how is not taken into charge yet?
Plenty of estates already have clamping or even cctv, but it is obvious there are management companies therein, in Seamount not obvious.

Storm 10 · 05-03-2021 11:10am

Friend lives in Newcastle and during the University term students park all over the estate, he went to the Council and Garda and was told as long as they don't block your entrance they are not parked illegally.

buzz11 · 05-03-2021 11:29am

zell12 wrote: »

Seamount is a pretty old estate, how is not taken into charge yet?
Plenty of estates already have clamping or even cctv, but it is obvious there are management companies therein, in Seamount not obvious.

Seamount was built in '80's before the rules over private/public/taking in charge were fully clear & established like nowadays so I'm sure its something the council are searching through their files to find out!

I really think the Seamount residents reaction is a bit of "dog in the manger", surely its not a big deal to facilitate parking during this pandemic? (except of course stupid parking blocking entrances & corners etc which should not be tolerated)

Isn't it better to share the prom and sea views than bunkering down in whos entitled to what and so on.... the pandemic will be gone at some point and they can get their quiet estate back then, unlike other parts of town like near the uni & hospital

zell12 · 05-03-2021 11:48am

buzz11 wrote: »

Seamount was built in '80's before the rules over private/public/taking in charge were fully clear & established like nowadays so I'm sure its something the council are searching through their files to find out!
I really think the Seamount residents reaction is a bit of "dog in the manger", surely its not a big deal to facilitate parking during this pandemic? (except of course stupid parking blocking entrances & corners etc which should not be tolerated)

Dunno, heard Cllr Donal Lyons whinging about people 'having no business being there' regarding other parking locations

Mrs OBumble · 05-03-2021 1:31pm

buzz11 wrote: »

I really think the Seamount residents reaction is a bit of "dog in the manger", surely its not a big deal to facilitate parking during this pandemic? (except of course stupid parking blocking entrances & corners etc which should not be tolerated)

Isn't it better to share the prom and sea views than bunkering down in whos entitled to what and so on.... the pandemic will be gone at some point and they can get their quiet estate back then, unlike other parts of town like near the uni & hospital

The cyclist lobby groups want to remove parking permanently from the prom, to facilitate bicycle lanes. They see the current state as a trial, not a temporary measure. Seamount residents are right to be concerned, and if their estate is not yet taken on charge are well within their rights to exclude unwelcome visitors.

05-03-2021 1:46pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

The cyclist lobby groups want to remove parking permanently from the prom, to facilitate bicycle lanes.

Which groups? I thought the proposal was for cycling lanes to go on the coastal side, using some of the road-side footpath, with most car parking moved across the road? (some loss from junctions)

What is the current state trialing?

what_traffic · 05-03-2021 2:17pm

zell12 wrote: »

I disagree, it's a huge area for people to play around in on the sea front, rather then facilitating the storage of personal private property.

Would not be replacing like with like here, would only need 1/5 of the space the current car park on the prom takes up for blue badge holders. Space should be utilised far better for sure.

what_traffic · 05-03-2021 2:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Which groups? I thought the proposal was for cycling lanes to go on the coastal side, using some of the road-side footpath, with most car parking moved across the road? (some loss from junctions)

What is the current state trialing?

Ya your right that was the proposal. Nothing is been done on this though by Galway City Council

The prom (COVID closed 31 March 2020, reopened 18 May)

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