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The prom (COVID closed 31 March 2020, reopened 18 May)

  • 22-03-2020 3:14pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭ Whereisgalway


    Drove by the prom, in fairness the council have put up signs it up to people to respect the social distancing. People of Galway we really are embarrassing ourselves, I seen runners going in groups of three, people stopping for chats bunched intogether, cyclists on the footpath forcing people in closer together, dogs off leads pooing and sniffing everyone and thing, a group of teenager playing frisbee on the green and to my horror a circuits class been carried out in the play ground. Not a garda in sight. They really need to patrol or close the prom to footfall


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  • Registered Users Posts: 904 pure.conya


    Drove by the prom, in fairness the council have put up signs it up to people to respect the social distancing. People of Galway we really are embarrassing ourselves, I seen runners going in groups of three, people stopping for chats bunched intogether, cyclists on the footpath forcing people in closer together, dogs off leads pooing and sniffing everyone and thing, a group of teenager playing frisbee on the green and to my horror a circuits class been carried out in the play ground. Not a garda in sight. They really need to patrol or close the prom to footfall

    thats just human stupidity, nothing exclusively Galway about it, I'm slowly warming to the notion of nanny state, there really are some ridiculously stupid people among us


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭ Whereisgalway


    A formal request has been submitted to Galway City Council this evening to close off Salthill Prom, Eyre Square and other areas where large crowds can gather, in an effort to combat the spread of Covid-19.

    It comes after thousands of people took to the Prom, Silverstrand and other parts of the city today – after concerns had already been raised by Council officials.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/connachttribune.ie/galway-city-council-asked-to-shut-salthill-promenade-and-eyre-square/amp/


  • Registered Users Posts: 672 ✭✭✭ Ashleigh1986


    Most people are sheep .
    They all think the same .
    It's a lovely day ... Let's go walk the prom .
    These sheep can't think outside the box .
    The same ones that panic bought in the supermarkets are the same sheep walking the prom .
    The same sheep that can't get enough of Christmas shopping .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 Diabhal Beag


    Expecting the types who swing open their doors without looking at oncoming traffic to demonstrate consideration for the greater public will always fail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭ Mrs OBumble


    A formal request has been submitted to Galway City Council this evening to close off Salthill Prom, Eyre Square and other areas where large crowds can gather, in an effort to combat the spread of Covid-19.

    It comes after thousands of people took to the Prom, Silverstrand and other parts of the city today – after concerns had already been raised by Council officials.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/connachttribune.ie/galway-city-council-asked-to-shut-salthill-promenade-and-eyre-square/amp/

    So no crowds actually have gathered at Eyre Square (which is a whacking big open area, and cannot be easily closed off without disrupting public transport access anyway - but "they" are wanting it closed off.

    How about the front of the County Council building (I saw a crowd there yesterday)? The council buildings? The docks? Rahoon Cemetery?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭ JoeA3


    A huge percentage of people are just a bit stupid, inconsiderate and blissfully unaware of anything outside their own bubble tbh. As per above, they're everywhere, those people who'll swing doors open into your path, who'll swing their car door into yours leaving a nice dent, etc...

    I think the Government can advise and plead until the cows come home, but it'll take this pandemic to actually reach many people's own doors (their own loved ones become seriously ill or worse) before the penny finally drops.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭ Whereisgalway



    How about the front of the County Council building (I saw a crowd there yesterday)? The council buildings? The docks? Rahoon Cemetery?

    It’s not the same & you know that aswell


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭ Fitz*


    Closing off public places like the prom is now a need because idiots are being idiots.

    The Garda were called to Lahinch today in Clare and Banna in Kerry. Kilkee was also busy and so was Spanish Point beach. Apparently a lot of 'foreign' county reg plates. Achill island is having similar problems with non-locals driving there.

    Why are people actually doing this? If you want the kids to get fresh air, bring them to one of the many public GAA pitches that are not being used now and easier to implement social distancing, instead of bringing them to one of the busiest places in the county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭ Mrs OBumble


    It’s not the same & you know that aswell

    I don't.

    The largest group I saw yesterday were the Roma having their sleep / team-meeting outside County Hall. Am really not sure why the guards haven't got rid of them yet, as happened last summer.

    Now I totally believe that dummies were mingling on the prom. And I had to go to the supermarket, and was not amused by just how close some people got.

    But I cannot see that it's feasible to "close" spaces which are wide open with multiple entry/exit points.

    And if congregating is to be a crime, it needs to be not allowed anywhere, not just on popular places.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 youngrun


    I don't.

    The largest group I saw yesterday were the Roma having their sleep / team-meeting outside County Hall. Am really not sure why the guards haven't got rid of them yet, as happened last summer.

    Now I totally believe that dummies were mingling on the prom. And I had to go to the supermarket, and was not amused by just how close some people got.

    But I cannot see that it's feasible to "close" spaces which are wide open with multiple entry/exit points.

    And if congregating is to be a crime, it needs to be not allowed anywhere, not just on popular places.


    Sounds like we are walking ourselves into martial law .

    Why not follow Ryans advice from WHO and isolate contacts and vulnerable groups for 14 days and put a cap on virus as opposed to a total lockdown

    How long realistically can a lockdown last without severe physical and mental health consequences eg domestic incidents, suicide, mass depression, death through general ill health and loneliness, and wider civil unrest and worse? hard to see longer than a month before deaths under such a scenario start mounting rapidly.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    youngrun wrote: »
    How long realistically can a lockdown last without severe physical and mental health consequences eg domestic incidents, suicide, mass depression, death through general ill health and loneliness, and wider civil unrest and worse? hard to see longer than a month before deaths under such a scenario start mounting rapidly.
    A very long time indeed.
    People have been in isolation (proper isolation) for very long times and managed to bounce back.
    Or in direct provision for months on end.

    Even if it is boring people need to stay inside, for others sake.
    They won't die form lack of exercise, but they could actually die from COVID19.
    The internet is really a helper during these times, you can still chat to others daily, just not meet in person.

    French police patrol the streets challenging anyone caught outside. Maybe we need that too.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    Free things you can access over the internet
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058063358


  • Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭ jam83


    I think there's a bit of generalisation going on with the accusing everyone who goes to a popular place as an idiot.
    Having really young kids it's really hard to stay indoors all day. If they're cranky an hour can feel like a day. Putting them in a buggy and walking on a beach should be fine.
    I understand if the prom is packed then people shouldn't all still pile out of their cars but why don't the council and government bloody give everyone a long list of places to go? Why don't they force all local sports pitches to stay open so people have alternatives? **** the insurance thing, every pitch has public liability insurance. If they close all the most popular spots then the local towns and villages will be thronged with people just trying to get some fresh air and the same problem exists. Give us a list of alternatives.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭ what_traffic


    One solution.
    Just widen the footpath by removing the seaside car parking along the length of the prom or else just close the road so that have even a wider footpath.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭ _Whimsical_


    youngrun wrote: »



    Sounds like we are walking ourselves into martial law .

    Why not follow Ryans advice from WHO and isolate contacts and vulnerable groups for 14 days and put a cap on virus as opposed to a total lockdown

    How long realistically can a lockdown last without severe physical and mental health consequences eg domestic incidents, suicide, mass depression, death through general ill health and loneliness, and wider civil unrest and worse? hard to see longer than a month before deaths under such a scenario start mounting rapidly.

    God, people live through wars for years, fight in wars for years, find their lives and homes in ruins after natural disasters that take years to recover from, people end up isolated due to illness and disability everyday around us.

    We are being asked to stay at home in comfort with tv, internet and phones. The alternative we are being presented with is the mass death of loved ones, hospitals too busy to save us if we've had car crashes etc, medical staff forced to risk their lives to help us.

    We really can do this for as long as it takes. If we are all keeling over after a month for want of a coffee and having the chats in the pub or the prom etc, God help us.
    We'll know all about depression if deaths are anything like projected even in midrange scenarios and if we have a repeat of italy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭ _Whimsical_


    jam83 wrote: »
    I think there's a bit of generalisation going on with the accusing everyone who goes to a popular place as an idiot.
    Having really young kids it's really hard to stay indoors all day. If they're cranky an hour can feel like a day. Putting them in a buggy and walking on a beach should be fine.
    I understand if the prom is packed then people shouldn't all still pile out of their cars but why don't the council and government bloody give everyone a long list of places to go? Why don't they force all local sports pitches to stay open so people have alternatives? **** the insurance thing, every pitch has public liability insurance. If they close all the most popular spots then the local towns and villages will be thronged with people just trying to get some fresh air and the same problem exists. Give us a list of alternatives.

    People have alternatives.
    There's fresh air outside your front door and a footpath, walk on it, follow it , take a different route everyday. Admire the houses you pass etc.

    We do not need to go the prettiest nicest places or have people working to tell us where to find them.

    What we need is functioning hospitals, medical staff who are healthy and not utterly overwhelmed and exhausted not working in an environment so chaotic they're likely to get sick and die themselves, our vulnerable friends and relations not dying very difficult deaths.

    48% of those hospitalised at the weekend were under 54.

    We have a very limited amount of ICU beds.

    If that's those stats continue we won't even be able to save all those under 54.We need to seriously isolate now and try prevent hospital overcrowding.

    We have no other need greater than this right now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭ beardybrewer


    The internet tide is roaring against anyone leaving the house for a walk although the HSE said it was okay just a week ago. We went to Wind Park yesterday figuring it might be quiet. It wasn't. Car park full but as far as them all being idiots did they all park at the same time? We went a mile up the road and managed to social distance the entire walk very aware to touch nothing. Last week this was probably okay but this week I've a feeling the internet is not okay with this... right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭ _Whimsical_


    The internet tide is roaring against anyone leaving the house for a walk although the HSE said it was okay just a week ago. We went to Wind Park yesterday figuring it might be quiet. It wasn't. Car park full but as far as them all being idiots did they all park at the same time? We went a mile up the road and managed to social distance the entire walk very aware to touch nothing. Last week this was probably okay but this week I've a feeling the internet is not okay with this... right?

    No one has a problem with people going for walks or leaving the house.
    There's only a problem with going to densely crowded places. Walk all you possibly can at a safe distance from others in locations that aren't packed. The HSE assumed that's what people would do.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    Just keep your distance

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  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ flynnlives


    they should just close the road from Grattan road right up to Blackrock.

    Then people will have plenty of space to walk the prom.

    They do it for storms so why not this event.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭ Fitz*


    The guidelines have been to stay inside and avoid all unnecessary travel. Go outside your house for a walk if you need fresh air and exercise, but only do it with people you are sharing a house with.

    The guidelines were not 'get in your car and drive to a busy hotspot and then walk alongside hundreds of others'.

    Wicklow has closed public parks and walks today.
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1242113528162639873


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 youngrun


    biko wrote: »
    A very long time indeed.
    People have been in isolation (proper isolation) for very long times and managed to bounce back.
    Or in direct provision for months on end.

    Even if it is boring people need to stay inside, for others sake.
    They won't die form lack of exercise, but they could actually die from COVID19.
    The internet is really a helper during these times, you can still chat to others daily, just not meet in person.

    French police patrol the streets challenging anyone caught outside. Maybe we need that too.


    I disagree I dont think anyones long term health is helped by being locked down. What about all the mind your mental health talk wheres that gone.

    Whats the point of being alive if you are locked inside for months or years ??

    I dont see a future for people in that


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭ JoeA3


    youngrun wrote: »
    I disagree I dont think anyones long term health is helped by being locked down. What about all the mind your mental health talk wheres that gone.

    Whats the point of being alive if you are locked inside for months or years ??

    I dont see a future for people in that

    I tend to agree with you, so lets hope it isn't endless months of this we're facing. Mental health issues and the economy - which will be in tatters - concerns me greatly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ flynnlives


    Get a grip!

    Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in a cell 7-by-9-foot in size.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    youngrun wrote: »
    I disagree I dont think anyones long term health is helped by being locked down.
    I don't think anyone think it helps.
    youngrun wrote: »
    Whats the point of being alive if you are locked inside for months or years ??
    You are not locked inside, it's not a prison. You can go outside any time you want.
    The government is telling you not socialise in groups. The best way to do this is to remain indoors.

    I understand your concerns but there are people's physical well-being at stake here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭ Mrs OBumble


    youngrun wrote: »
    I disagree I dont think anyones long term health is helped by being locked down. What about all the mind your mental health talk wheres that gone.

    Whats the point of being alive if you are locked inside for months or years ??

    I dont see a future for people in that

    Your grandparents were asked to go to war.

    You are being asked to sit on your sofa.

    You CAN do this, honest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭ Whereisgalway


    Your grandparents were asked to go to war.

    You are being asked to sit on your sofa.

    You CAN do this, honest.

    You should quote pier morgan when you plajorise his work

    https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1258889/Piers-Morgan-fury-coronavirus-advice-ignored-tourist-Good-Morning-Britain-ITV-video


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭ flazio


    There is one more concern about asking people, especially lower classes to lock themselves away in their houses indefinitely.
    Domestic violence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 672 ✭✭✭ Ashleigh1986


    The gardai had to go to a McDonald's in Dublin today to tell them to close their drive tru .
    Why ???
    The traffic it was causing because the muppets were getting their last Big Mac before mcdonalds closes .
    What da fxxk ????


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭ Mrs OBumble


    flazio wrote: »
    There is one more concern about asking people, especially lower classes to lock themselves away in their houses indefinitely.
    Domestic violence.

    Domestic violence is not restricted to any particular class.

    Yes, it is an issue, the rate will go up. But on the other hand, any amount of it is unacceptable. Social conditions that allow people to live amid lower levels of domestic violence, instead of forcing them to confront the need to leave, are as damaging.



    Everyone knows it's a quote. I have no idea who said it first.


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