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Gordon Elliott

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    #152
    but1er
    Registered Users Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭but1er


    Davy Russell to take out trainers licence and run the horses for him.


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    #153
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Dodge wrote: »
    It’s always the whistleblowers fault...

    It wasn't for the good of the sport so in this instance, yes it is the whistleblowers fault.


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    #154
    jakiah
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭jakiah


    Kauto wrote: »
    It wasn't for the good of the sport so in this instance, yes it is the whistleblowers fault.

    That's some hot take. Do you think Elliot has any responsibility here?


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    #155
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    wardides wrote: »
    Assuming you're hinting that this was leaked by KH. I don't think she would do so, far too engrained in the sport.

    I don't know who leaked it... I'm sure it will become public knowledge soon enough.
    I'm sure whoever released it probably didn't realise how much damage this would do.


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    #156
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    wardides wrote: »
    Assuming you're hinting that this was leaked by KH. I don't think she would do so, far too engrained in the sport.

    Agreed


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    #157
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    jakiah wrote: »
    That's some hot take. Do you think Elliot has any responsibility here?

    Obviously. A moment of madness. I don't like the guy but he is going to pay a severe price for something that happened a long time ago.


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    #158
    Dwarf.Shortage
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    Kauto wrote: »
    Obviously. A moment of madness. I don't like the guy but he is going to pay a severe price for something that happened a long time ago.

    In the absence of any real reason to think he has changed it doesn’t matter that it’s from 2019. It’s not like he was a child when it happened.


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    #159
    jakiah
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭jakiah


    Kauto wrote: »
    Obviously. A moment of madness. I don't like the guy but he is going to pay a severe price for something that happened a long time ago.

    It happened in 2019, not 1961.


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    #160
    Raisins
    Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Raisins


    Kauto wrote: »
    Whoever released the photo(seems to be the same name going round) has damaged the sport immensely of which they are a part off.

    I highly doubt he/she will be well received over the coming months and I'd say her mother is fuming!! Put a lot of jobs at risk.

    It’s not the person who released the photo’s fault.


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    #161
    Kauto
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    Raisins wrote: »
    It’s not the person who released the photo’s fault.

    It 100% is. It was not done out of concern for the animal.


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    #162
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Gigginstown just released statement saying they are sticking by him. Fair play to Mick.


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    #163
    Coybig_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    Kauto wrote: »
    It 100% is. It was not done out of concern for the animal.

    A crazy way of looking at things.


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    #164
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,194 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Kauto wrote: »
    It 100% is. It was not done out of concern for the animal.

    Where as sitting on it while you’re on the phone was?

    See we can all use spurious logic...


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    #165
    realdanbreen
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    Sean Worried Memory wrote: »
    The fact that he is posing with a big gurn on his face, and the fact that the picture is captioned with a joke.

    So yes, posing and joking.

    You think he put the caption on the photo?
    You really do don't you!:rolleyes:


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    #166
    The Hoarse Whisperer
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    Kauto wrote: »
    Gigginstown just released statement saying they are sticking by him. Fair play to Mick.

    Was their horse apparently


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    #167
    wardides
    Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wardides


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    You think he put the caption on the photo?
    You really do don't you!:rolleyes:

    In fairness he's not exactly stricken with grief. Not that i'd expect him to, horses passing away isn't exactly rare.

    Does say a bit about the culture in the yard though, if a worker thought it would be funny to take a picture of it, and even more so that Gordon thought it funny enough to pose.


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    #168
    [Deleted User]
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    You think he put the caption on the photo?
    You really do don't you!:rolleyes:
    It was one of his staff. Everyone was having a laugh.


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    #169
    jakiah
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭jakiah


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    You think he put the caption on the photo?
    You really do don't you!:rolleyes:

    The fact that someone else in the yard took it and also thinks its a lark surely makes it worse? That points to the general attitude of the yard being one of disrespect toward the animal, rather than a 'moment of madness' by one individual.

    Some of you lads would be best placed saying nothing at all.


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    #170
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,157 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Sean Worried Memory wrote: »
    It was one of his staff. Everyone was having a laugh.

    Wow! So now you know that 'everyone was having a laugh'
    Good job you're not into spreading gossip !


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    #171
    Plasandrunt
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    jakiah wrote: »
    The fact that someone else in the yard took it and also thinks its a lark surely makes it worse? That points to the general attitude of the yard being one of disrespect toward the animal, rather than a 'moment of madness' by one individual.

    Some of you lads would be best placed saying nothing at all.

    Have you just set up an account today to come onto a horse racing forum and stick the boots to the sport?

    Surely there's somewhere else where you can do that?


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    #172
    posturingpat
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    Kauto wrote: »
    It 100% is. It was not done out of concern for the animal.

    What planet are you living on? 100% the whistleblowers fault? How can any person come to that conclusion? Really? Gordon Elliott wouldn't even say that.


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    #173
    posturingpat
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    Plasandrunt wrote: »
    Have you just set up an account today to come onto a horse racing forum and stick the boots to the sport?

    Surely there's somewhere else where you can do that?

    He has a fair point though.


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    #174
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,157 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    jakiah wrote: »
    The fact that someone else in the yard took it and also thinks its a lark surely makes it worse? That points to the general attitude of the yard being one of disrespect toward the animal, rather than a 'moment of madness' by one individual.

    Some of you lads would be best placed saying nothing at all.

    Were you ever in a horse trainers yard?


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    #175
    irish_major
    Registered Users Posts: 525 ✭✭✭irish_major


    I'm shocked at how shocked people are that Gordon Elliot could do such a thing!

    Surrounded by scumbags, clearly a dubious character himself and the videos that have circulated in recent weeks from his yard bar show a man who thinks he's untouchable. Hopefully he gets a hefty suspension for the trouble this will cause the wider racing community. ****ing idiot


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    #176
    Raisins
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    People arguing that it’s not a big deal because the horse was dead or that it’s the person who leaked the photos fault would want to get real.

    Inappropriate pictures / chats that end up on WhatsApp and bring a sport into disrepute can destroy a sportspersons career. Paddy Jackson learned that lesson.

    Smiling and sitting on a dead horse lying on the gallops while making a peace sign to camera. What an idiot.


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    #177
    posturingpat
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    irish_major wrote: »
    I'm shocked at how shocked people are that Gordon Elliot could do such a thing!

    Surrounded by scumbags, clearly a dubious character himself and the videos that have circulated in recent weeks from his yard bar show a man who thinks he's untouchable. Hopefully he gets a hefty suspension for the trouble this will cause the wider racing community. ****ing idiot
    Has it not been confirmed that video is from a year or 2 back and not when it was claimed? Surrounded by what scumbags?
    You're surprised were shocked? Do you think we follow the sport expecting the animals to get treated with no respect? I for one certainly dont. From my little experience any horse I've been involved with or yard I've visited(including Gordons) it's always been a case of horse is number one and respect is important in life and death. This goes totally against that. So being shocked is not ridiculous.


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    #178
    irish_major
    Registered Users Posts: 525 ✭✭✭irish_major


    posturingpat wrote: »
    Has it not been confirmed that video is from a year or 2 back and not when it was claimed? Surrounded by what scumbags?
    You're surprised were shocked? Do you think we follow the sport expecting the animals to get treated with no respect? I for one certainly dont. From my little experience any horse I've been involved with or yard I've visited(including Gordons) it's always been a case of horse is number one and respect is important in life and death. This goes totally against that. So being shocked is not ridiculous.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/ninety-per-cent-of-cheltenham-winning-horse-bought-with-proceeds-of-crime-court-1.4063092


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    #179
    mobby
    Registered Users Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭mobby


    irish_major wrote: »
    I'm shocked at how shocked people are that Gordon Elliot could do such a thing!

    Surrounded by scumbags, clearly a dubious character himself and the videos that have circulated in recent weeks from his yard bar show a man who thinks he's untouchable. Hopefully he gets a hefty suspension for the trouble this will cause the wider racing community. ****ing idiot

    This 100%. A disgusting photograph that shows his true colours.

    Only sorry now because he was caught out.

    Anyone says sure its just a death horse is as bad.

    Hopefully karma will get him in the end.


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    #180
    Francie Barrett
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    Twitter didn't take long to react.

    https://twitter.com/gordondeadhorse


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    #181
    lemush
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    irish_major wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/ninety-per-cent-of-cheltenham-winning-horse-bought-with-proceeds-of-crime-court-1.4063092

    What the **** has that got to do with anything?


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