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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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  • #2342
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Cushtie wrote: »
    If the Germans are as reported sitting on 1.5 Million doeses for AZ that they can't administer for whatever reason, not giving it to over 65's., The population don't want it etc. Would it not make sense to have these redirected to other EU countries that would take them. Ie Us. Or am I missing something?

    The French and Germans governments are making a big public push again, admitted their initial concerns were disportionate as the studies from the UK Scotland etc are now proving , US trials will be done this month. Not a chance they are gonna sell their allocation off to other countries unless it's clearly a lost cause, which it isn't ....yet.


  • #2343
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Government considering vaccine green cards :

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40235168.html

    Correct decision


  • #2344
    Cushtie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    lbj666 wrote: »
    The French and Germans governments are making a big public push again, admitted their initial concerns were disportionate as the studies from the UK Scotland etc are now proving , US trials will be done this month. Not a chance they are gonna sell their allocation off to other countries unless it's clearly a lost cause, which it isn't ....yet.

    I guess you are right. Even if we could do a swap. Give us 1 mil of theirs now if they are not using it immediately and we will allocate 1 mil of ours back say in 6 weeks or two months time. It just seems such a shame to have it sitting in storage when we have a willing population here sleeves rolled up ready to go.


  • #2345
    Thornysheep
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭Thornysheep


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Government considering vaccine green cards :

    That's not what the article says.


  • #2346
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Thornysheep wrote: »
    That's not what the article says.

    Can you not read? They are obviously thinking about it.



    The Government could introduce so-called “green cards” that allow people who have been vaccinated to access services including gyms and cinemas.

    The system is currently being used in Israel, where citizens who are inoculated against Covid-19 have been provided with a green pass.

    The pass allows people to access gyms, restaurants, hotels and concerts.


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  • #2347
    Thornysheep
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭Thornysheep


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Can you not read?



    The Government could introduce so-called “green cards” that allow people who have been vaccinated to access services including gyms and cinemas.

    The system is currently being used in Israel, where citizens who are inoculated against Covid-19 have been provided with a green pass.

    The pass allows people to access gyms, restaurants, hotels and concerts.

    I can read very well, thank you. I think you should read it again. This time more slowly.


  • #2348
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Thornysheep wrote: »
    I can read very well, thank you. I think you should read it again. This time more slowly.


    So genuis tell us what it means. By the way welcome to the forum, great to see new ‘members’ joining.


  • #2349
    Thornysheep
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭Thornysheep


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    So genuis tell us what it means. By the way welcome to the forum, great to see new ‘members’ joining.

    Read it again more slowly. Nowhere in the article does it say that the government is considering. It states 'could' consider. That is a huge difference.

    Why did you put member in inverted commas?


  • #2350
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?


  • #2351
    Thornysheep
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭Thornysheep


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

    With vaccination ramping up there is every hope. I'm hoping to travel in September.


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  • #2352
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Thornysheep wrote: »
    Read it again more slowly. Nowhere in the article does it say that the government is considering. It states 'could' consider. That is a huge difference.

    Why did you put member in inverted commas?

    No you are just nitpicking the article or my post. If they are talking about it they are considering it. The probability is high they’ll bring it in. But if it makes you feel better would you like me to edit my original post to ‘thinking of considering green cards’?


  • #2353
    Thornysheep
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭Thornysheep


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    No you are just nitpicking the article or my post. If they are talking about it they are considering it. The probability is high they’ll bring it in.

    No, you are misinterpreting what is, to begin with, a very poor article.


  • #2354
    Morries Wigs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 199 ✭✭Morries Wigs


    Do we know if you are vaccinated you can still pass on the virus to other people


  • #2355
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Thornysheep wrote: »
    No, you are misinterpreting what is, to begin with, a very poor article.

    No, they are thinking about it hence the article full stop.

    Original post edited ;)


  • #2356
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Thornysheep wrote: »
    With vaccination ramping up there is every hope. I'm hoping to travel in September.

    Will be last minute bookings I reckon but let’s hope, I’m in group 7 so should be well done by then


  • #2357
    Dressoutlet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    Morries Wigs wrote: »
    Do we know if you are vaccinated you can still pass on the virus to other people

    Other countries are showing that vaccines do stop the spread


  • #2358
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Morries Wigs wrote: »
    Do we know if you are vaccinated you can still pass on the virus to other people

    A number of studies have suggested that both AZ and Pfizer appear to reduce transmission, and possibly quite significantly. This would be a real game changer.


  • #2359
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,508 ✭✭✭harr


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

    I have a wedding in Portugal end of September and I am hopeful of getting to it ..


  • #2360
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Courtesy of Fergal Bowers on Twitter (hattip to irishlad), I've reoriented the Cohort 3 breakdown and the original rollout plan to make them easier to read. The dates may have slipped, but it's still a useful guide.

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  • #2361
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    ddarcy wrote: »
    With the US approving the Johnson and Johnson vaccination, we sound probably in March see it approved here as well.

    Also interesting that my parents in the US have been told that they are moving to only one vaccination for Pfizer/ Moderna as this is good enough (still 80%+ efficacy) and the Phase IV information is supporting it. So they’ll get it next week and won’t need a second dose. They’re based in California and my aunt in Massachusetts has been told the same so it all seems to be heading this way, along with the UK, so we could shortly be seeing this as the official guidelines worldwide. I’d say by April the official dosing guidelines will be changed, if the information coming back remains the same.

    I know this is complete hearsay but I wonder if this is the way we will go.

    Reportedly Pfizer is 90% effective after 1 shot
    J&J is 66% after 1 shot and is called a game-changer as its one shot.

    If the regime does change the UK will have 1/3 of the population done and finished.


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  • #2362
    BlondeLou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 ✭BlondeLou


    Did we hit the 100,000 vaccines administrated this week?


  • #2363
    JTMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

    I would think long before September especially if travelling inside the EU and if vaccinated.

    The UK roadmap has international travel allowed from 17 May at the earliest.

    The EU have said that green passports, for EU wide travel, will be ready in late May.

    Perhaps people will be allowed do intra EU travel from around 1 June if they have been vaccinated.


  • #2364
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,369 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    BlondeLou wrote: »
    Did we hit the 100,000 vaccines administrated this week?

    We won't know till Wednesday, But we're on target.


  • #2365
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,369 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    JTMan wrote: »
    I would think long before September especially if travelling inside the EU and if vaccinated.

    The UK roadmap has international travel allowed from 17 May at the earliest.

    The EU have said that green passports, for EU wide travel, will be ready in late May.

    Perhaps people will be allowed do intra EU travel from around 1 June if they have been vaccinated.

    That's great, have any countries said they'll let them in though?


  • #2366
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    That's great, have any countries said they'll let them in though?

    What a very valid point


  • #2367
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Will be last minute bookings I reckon but let’s hope, I’m in group 7 so should be well done by then

    I hope you get to go. Either way, Sept this year will be better than last.


  • #2368
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,268 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    With the vaccine rollout and lifting of restrictions, I reckon both the hospitality and travel industry will be in for a boom Autumn. People will want to go out to eat and do a bit of travel.


  • #2369
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    A 77 year old couple I know in Wexford have been offered to the week after next


  • #2370
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Gael23 wrote: »
    A 77 year old couple I know in Wexford have been offered to the week after next
    Have heard they're flying through the over 70 group in my GPs too


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  • #2371
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭brickster69


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    That's great, have any countries said they'll let them in though?

    Maybe it is a better idea for EU countries to get the supply and vaccination roll out sorted first, before they start planning on which tourists might allow in or not.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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