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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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lbj666

Cushtie wrote: »

If the Germans are as reported sitting on 1.5 Million doeses for AZ that they can't administer for whatever reason, not giving it to over 65's., The population don't want it etc. Would it not make sense to have these redirected to other EU countries that would take them. Ie Us. Or am I missing something?

The French and Germans governments are making a big public push again, admitted their initial concerns were disportionate as the studies from the UK Scotland etc are now proving , US trials will be done this month. Not a chance they are gonna sell their allocation off to other countries unless it's clearly a lost cause, which it isn't ....yet.

Deeper Blue

Micky 32 wrote: »

Government considering vaccine green cards :

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40235168.html

Correct decision

Cushtie

lbj666 wrote: »

The French and Germans governments are making a big public push again, admitted their initial concerns were disportionate as the studies from the UK Scotland etc are now proving , US trials will be done this month. Not a chance they are gonna sell their allocation off to other countries unless it's clearly a lost cause, which it isn't ....yet.

I guess you are right. Even if we could do a swap. Give us 1 mil of theirs now if they are not using it immediately and we will allocate 1 mil of ours back say in 6 weeks or two months time. It just seems such a shame to have it sitting in storage when we have a willing population here sleeves rolled up ready to go.

Thornysheep

Micky 32 wrote: »

Government considering vaccine green cards :

That's not what the article says.

Micky 32

Thornysheep wrote: »

That's not what the article says.

Can you not read? They are obviously thinking about it.

The Government could introduce so-called “green cards” that allow people who have been vaccinated to access services including gyms and cinemas.

The system is currently being used in Israel, where citizens who are inoculated against Covid-19 have been provided with a green pass.

The pass allows people to access gyms, restaurants, hotels and concerts.

Thornysheep

Micky 32 wrote: »

Can you not read?

The Government could introduce so-called “green cards” that allow people who have been vaccinated to access services including gyms and cinemas.

The system is currently being used in Israel, where citizens who are inoculated against Covid-19 have been provided with a green pass.

The pass allows people to access gyms, restaurants, hotels and concerts.

I can read very well, thank you. I think you should read it again. This time more slowly.

Micky 32

Thornysheep wrote: »

I can read very well, thank you. I think you should read it again. This time more slowly.

So genuis tell us what it means. By the way welcome to the forum, great to see new ‘members’ joining.

Thornysheep

Micky 32 wrote: »

So genuis tell us what it means. By the way welcome to the forum, great to see new ‘members’ joining.

Read it again more slowly. Nowhere in the article does it say that the government is considering. It states 'could' consider. That is a huge difference.

Why did you put member in inverted commas?

Gael23

Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

Thornysheep

Gael23 wrote: »

Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

With vaccination ramping up there is every hope. I'm hoping to travel in September.

Micky 32

Thornysheep wrote: »

Read it again more slowly. Nowhere in the article does it say that the government is considering. It states 'could' consider. That is a huge difference.

Why did you put member in inverted commas?

No you are just nitpicking the article or my post. If they are talking about it they are considering it. The probability is high they’ll bring it in. But if it makes you feel better would you like me to edit my original post to ‘thinking of considering green cards’?

Thornysheep

Micky 32 wrote: »

No you are just nitpicking the article or my post. If they are talking about it they are considering it. The probability is high they’ll bring it in.

No, you are misinterpreting what is, to begin with, a very poor article.

Morries Wigs

Do we know if you are vaccinated you can still pass on the virus to other people

Micky 32

Thornysheep wrote: »

No, you are misinterpreting what is, to begin with, a very poor article.

No, they are thinking about it hence the article full stop.

Original post edited

Gael23

Thornysheep wrote: »

With vaccination ramping up there is every hope. I'm hoping to travel in September.

Will be last minute bookings I reckon but let’s hope, I’m in group 7 so should be well done by then

Dressoutlet

Morries Wigs wrote: »

Do we know if you are vaccinated you can still pass on the virus to other people

Other countries are showing that vaccines do stop the spread

bilston

Morries Wigs wrote: »

Do we know if you are vaccinated you can still pass on the virus to other people

A number of studies have suggested that both AZ and Pfizer appear to reduce transmission, and possibly quite significantly. This would be a real game changer.

harr

Gael23 wrote: »

Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

I have a wedding in Portugal end of September and I am hopeful of getting to it ..

Apogee

Courtesy of Fergal Bowers on Twitter (hattip to irishlad), I've reoriented the Cohort 3 breakdown and the original rollout plan to make them easier to read. The dates may have slipped, but it's still a useful guide.

afatbollix

ddarcy wrote: »

With the US approving the Johnson and Johnson vaccination, we sound probably in March see it approved here as well.

Also interesting that my parents in the US have been told that they are moving to only one vaccination for Pfizer/ Moderna as this is good enough (still 80%+ efficacy) and the Phase IV information is supporting it. So they’ll get it next week and won’t need a second dose. They’re based in California and my aunt in Massachusetts has been told the same so it all seems to be heading this way, along with the UK, so we could shortly be seeing this as the official guidelines worldwide. I’d say by April the official dosing guidelines will be changed, if the information coming back remains the same.

I know this is complete hearsay but I wonder if this is the way we will go.

Reportedly Pfizer is 90% effective after 1 shot
J&J is 66% after 1 shot and is called a game-changer as its one shot.

If the regime does change the UK will have 1/3 of the population done and finished.

BlondeLou

Did we hit the 100,000 vaccines administrated this week?

JTMan

Gael23 wrote: »

Is there any hope for holidays around September/October if this good news keeps coming?

I would think long before September especially if travelling inside the EU and if vaccinated.

The UK roadmap has international travel allowed from 17 May at the earliest.

The EU have said that green passports, for EU wide travel, will be ready in late May.

Perhaps people will be allowed do intra EU travel from around 1 June if they have been vaccinated.

hynesie08

BlondeLou wrote: »

Did we hit the 100,000 vaccines administrated this week?

We won't know till Wednesday, But we're on target.

hynesie08

JTMan wrote: »

I would think long before September especially if travelling inside the EU and if vaccinated.

The UK roadmap has international travel allowed from 17 May at the earliest.

The EU have said that green passports, for EU wide travel, will be ready in late May.

Perhaps people will be allowed do intra EU travel from around 1 June if they have been vaccinated.

That's great, have any countries said they'll let them in though?

lbj666

hynesie08 wrote: »

That's great, have any countries said they'll let them in though?

What a very valid point

Danzy

Gael23 wrote: »

Will be last minute bookings I reckon but let’s hope, I’m in group 7 so should be well done by then

I hope you get to go. Either way, Sept this year will be better than last.

Water John

With the vaccine rollout and lifting of restrictions, I reckon both the hospitality and travel industry will be in for a boom Autumn. People will want to go out to eat and do a bit of travel.

Gael23

A 77 year old couple I know in Wexford have been offered to the week after next

ACitizenErased

Gael23 wrote: »

A 77 year old couple I know in Wexford have been offered to the week after next

Have heard they're flying through the over 70 group in my GPs too

brickster69

hynesie08 wrote: »

That's great, have any countries said they'll let them in though?

Maybe it is a better idea for EU countries to get the supply and vaccination roll out sorted first, before they start planning on which tourists might allow in or not.