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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    markodaly wrote: »
    Are they going to fully vaccinate the over 85+ with two doses first before moving onto the 80-85 group?

    No, they won't wait the 4 weeks.
    Next week will be 85+
    Week after 80+
    Week after 75+
    Week after that 70+
    Week after that 85+ second dose
    etc....

    Not all surgery's will finish within a week or some may finish faster so it won't be as exact as that, but it's the general jist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Yes, he does have an agenda, but these dissenting voices need to be heard too. The medics, left unchecked, will only consider public health and nothing more - probably resulting in indefinite restrictions as there will always be some threat from existing and future viruses. In reality, we know that we need to be more pragmatic and look at things holistically. Eventually the threat of the virus will be reduced to the point where economics will supersede public health, and the justification for restrictions will be minimal

    But but but.....the variants....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭padjocollins




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Herd Immunity again FFS just proves that paper will take any ink. Even if its a thing, the USA are miles ahead on vaccines


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  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    trellheim wrote: »
    Herd Immunity again FFS just proves that paper will take any ink. Even if its a thing, the USA are miles ahead on vaccines

    Miles ahead on cases too, not comparable to Ireland at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    trellheim wrote: »
    Herd Immunity again FFS just proves that paper will take any ink. Even if its a thing, the USA are miles ahead on vaccines

    It's herd immunity from mass vaccination, mostly, with the considerable amount of infection as well.

    The UK will be looking at the same in April or May. Hopefully we'll be there in the Summer and the rest of the EU in last third of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    trellheim wrote: »
    Herd Immunity again FFS just proves that paper will take any ink. Even if its a thing, the USA are miles ahead on vaccines
    Granted it's all a bit excitable claiming herd immunity in a couple of months but it is a thing. Why do you think they talk about 70%-80% of people being vaccinated? It doesn't mean there won't be any cases in the future but they will not be at this pandemic level, nor will we see many severe cases. Measles, for example, needs over 90% to provide this protection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    EU announces fresh new deal with Moderna:

    https://www.ft.com/content/a6cd1bc8-f6e0-4e32-8399-6fde8b71c579?segmentID=09cf3415-e461-2c4a-a8cc-80acc4846679&twclid=11363785996928704515





    Brussels is set to almost triple its orders of Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine as part of an EU push to respond to the emergence of new variants and the possible need for booster shots.

    “”The European Commission and Moderna on Wednesday announced a deal for a further 150m doses of the US pharmaceutical company’s jab this year, and an option for 150m more next year. Next year’s order could be of a vaccine tailored to a new variant, if necessary, one person familiar with the matter said. 

    The agreement, first reported by the Financial Times, would add to Brussels’ agreement last year to buy 160m Moderna shots. It is part of a wider effort to tackle criticism of the EU’s sluggish vaccine rollout and prepare for the possible evolution of the disease as mutant strains appear. “”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Cork2021 wrote: »

    Astra Zeneca would be my vaccine of choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Apogee wrote: »
    Thursday's numbers: 15,182 administered.

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    Friday's numbers - 14,120 admininstered. Mon-Fri: 66,057

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Cork2021 wrote: »

    Listen Buddy. Dont be trying to blind us with your science. We know the vaccine wont work. Sure didn't Dr Sam tell us.

    Now where did I put that tin foil hat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Astra Zeneca would be my vaccine of choice.


    When your time comes for a vaccine take what you can.
    The vaccines will all work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Encouraging words from Helen McEntee this morning :

    “Government wants to ensure that this is the last lockdown and that society can be reopened in a safe and phased way.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Encouraging words from Helen McEntee this morning :

    “Government wants to ensure that this is the last lockdown and that society can be reopened in a safe and phased way.”

    Certainly beats the "we'll be locking down again for Christmas" message they were going with only a couple of weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Encouraging words from Helen McEntee this morning :

    “Government wants to ensure that this is the last lockdown and that society can be reopened in a safe and phased way.”
    Good to hear but also tacit recognition that another one will just not work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Cork2021 wrote: »

    So the fourth week looks to have a bigger benefit. Who would of believed it ?

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Certainly beats the "we'll be locking down again for Christmas" message they were going with only a couple of weeks ago.

    I don't recall this message. I recall one saying there would not be much foreign travel at Christmas. I don't recall anyone suggesting a lockdown.

    Who said we'd be in a lockdown and to what extent of restrictions were they referring to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Leo Varadkar :

    “” I know we’re getting tired of lockdown but here’s positive thought for the week ahead. Next week, for first time, more than 100k people will receive vaccine. Rampup continues. In April, it’ll be c250k a week. Vacination works and will help us end pandemic. Summer should be better””


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,893 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Leo Varadkar :

    “” I know we’re getting tired of lockdown but here’s positive thought for the week ahead. Next week, for first time, more than 100k people will receive vaccine. Rampup continues. In April, it’ll be c250k a week. Vacination works and will help us end pandemic. Summer should be better””



    To add on that, the numbers vaccinated per day last week:


    Tues 17,500
    Wed 17,160
    Thurs 16,000
    Fri 14,200

    Things are going the right way. This is before all the big vaccination centres open up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Leo Varadkar :

    “” I know we’re getting tired of lockdown but here’s positive thought for the week ahead. Next week, for first time, more than 100k people will receive vaccine. Rampup continues. In April, it’ll be c250k a week. Vacination works and will help us end pandemic. Summer should be better””

    Summer should be better. After Phillip Nolan telling us yesterday we can only socialise outside in the pissing rain. While countless people are stuck on PUP till God knows when....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭eoinbn



    Armchair analysis - As odd as it sounds those finds could justify our strategy to give the most at risk the double dose and to stick with mRNA for the 70+. Pfizer was approved first so it was given to the most at risk which is probably why it appears to be less successful at reducing hospitalisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Is there a resource for the current vaccination programme including figures for doses? It seems like information is fed to the public in dribs and drabs but it all gets lost after a short while. I know it's a constantly changing thing, but would be good to know what the current projections are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    eoinbn wrote: »
    Armchair analysis - As odd as it sounds those finds could justify our strategy to give the most at risk the double dose and to stick with mRNA for the 70+. Pfizer was approved first so it was given to the most at risk which is probably why it appears to be less successful at reducing hospitalisation.
    Or the AZ could be better......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    The constant negativity about the AZ vaccine is getting really tiring- even when there’s good news about it preventing hospitalisations (94%) there’s a ya, but...
    Which I don’t see the same of when there’s positive news released about the Pfizer’s/ Moderna vaccine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The constant negativity about the AZ vaccine is getting really tiring- even when there’s good news about it preventing hospitalisations (94%) there’s a ya, but...
    Which I don’t see the same of when there’s positive news released about the Pfizer’s/ Moderna vaccine

    Who cares, there is 250 million over 70's people due to receive it in the next 6 weeks, mostly in really poor places. So i am quite sure this is welcome news for them.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,672 ✭✭✭✭josip




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