Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

mloc123 · 20-02-2021 04:53PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The trend is still good, but achingly slow given the L5 restrictions.

Makes you wonder how and where people are still picking it up... 7 weeks into level 5

Ficheall · 20-02-2021 04:57PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

There is plenty of surplus test capacity at the moment, so no reason to believe our case numbers aren't a true reflection. What's happening is that we are doing less mass testing at the moment, and the close contact positivity rate is high (because close contacts are nearly all household contacts). Both of these factors mean the positivity rate is higher.

Ah, I see where we differ. You have a lot more faith in the tracing.

igCorcaigh · 20-02-2021 04:58PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Makes you wonder how and where people are still picking it up... 7 weeks into level 5

I don't know, but are more workplaces open now compared to the first lockdown last year?

UrbanFret · 20-02-2021 04:58PM

niallo27 wrote: »

What you mean by teeming with people, where are they. Where is there to go. Everywhere is shut.

supermarkets, carparks of supermarkets seem a great place for a natter. parks , walks, theres even a walk beside me which is not completed or hasnt been officialy opened yet. there was that many people using it they've had to mound up the soil at the entrance and put up signage in an attempt to stop people acessing it.
The roads are thick with cars. 5km restriction is purely cosmetic.

20-02-2021 04:59PM

As regards the PCR test, I had two recently. First one was a day after reporting fairly mild symptoms of respiratory infection and exhaustion to doctor. Negative, so he put me on a week of amoxicillin for presumed bacterial infection. No effect, in fact I got abruptly much worse towards end of antibiotic with the true flu-type full on fever and coughing etc, sent this time by taxi for another nasal swab as I was too unwell to drive or walk, again negative. Acutely duck with lowish oxygen (90-94%) etc for a further few days. Everything tasted like poison so all I could take was tea as a few nibbles. Lost a load of weight and no harm too. Then all symptoms faded away and I'm pretty much back to old self now. Had taken every measure not to get anything at all, and only interaction I had was in supermarket and in and out through common areas of apartment block where people don't always wear masks. Haven't a clue what I had, but had to treat myself as a potential false negative and stay locked inside for over two weeks.

Bubbaclaus · 20-02-2021 04:59PM

Does anyone have up to date data on nursing home outbreaks? Hopefully the data shows a sharp decrease, given at least half of them already have a second dose of Pfizer.

gw80 · 20-02-2021 04:59PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

The reality is that the lockdown is in name only. everywhere is teeming with people. the numbers will not drop below 500 until we are vaccinating a couple of hundred thousand a week. the north will be vaccinated in 2 months time, What then?

"What then",
We are going to see a lot of yellow reg campervans and caravans enjoying the beaches and other scenic areas that we are not allowed to visit.

MerlinSouthDub · 20-02-2021 05:03PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Purely because we don't get Sundays swabs until Monday, comparing what we do have so far.

Monday to Saturday last week - 5498 swabs
Monday to Saturday this week - 4008 swabs

28% lower. A good week!

20-02-2021 05:03PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

supermarkets, carparks of supermarkets seem a great place for a natter. parks , walks, theres even a walk beside me which is not completed or hasnt been officialy opened yet. there was that many people using it they've had to mound up the soil at the entrance and put up signage in an attempt to stop people acessing it.
The roads are thick with cars. 5km restriction is purely cosmetic.

Churchtown, Dublin, is in my catchment area, and when I got there to shop there are lots of gathering gs of people huddled together outside Number of takeaway coffee shops. All they are lacking is official seating, but a wall serves adequately. Same in my immediate area, lots and lots of folk lined on a wall by a riverside park opposite a takeaway coffee shop. I don't know if these are all from same household etc, which would be ok, but some are sitting extremely close together.

UrbanFret · 20-02-2021 05:04PM

gw80 wrote: »

"What then",
We are going to see a lot of yellow reg campervans and caravans enjoying the beaches and other scenic areas that we are not allowed to visit.

You are absolutely correct. Anyway I expect it will be over in 6 months either way.

blackcard · 20-02-2021 05:05PM

Prince Charles visited his father in hospital. Surely not in accordance with current protocols? Interesting to see will there be a backlash

MerlinSouthDub · 20-02-2021 05:06PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Positivity rate is an important metric. 5% means we are missing alot of cases.

No reason to think we are the moment. If case numbers were going up, and the positivity rate was staying the same, I'd be concerned, but that's not what we are seeing.

Benimar · 20-02-2021 05:08PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

28% lower. A good week!

Those numbers are incorrect. Its 5,498 last week v 4,851 this week (he didn't include todays swabs). Its 11.8% lower.

20-02-2021 05:08PM

blackcard wrote: »

Prince Charles visited his father in hospital. Surely not in accordance with current protocols? Interesting to see will there be a backlash

Possibly end of life scenario?

hynesie08 · 20-02-2021 05:09PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

The reality is that the lockdown is in name only. everywhere is teeming with people. the numbers will not drop below 500 until we are vaccinating a couple of hundred thousand a week. the north will be vaccinated in 2 months time, What then?

How will the North be vaccinated in 2 months when they are waiting 12 weeks between shots and they are only planning on half having their fist shot by the end of March?

stephenjmcd · 20-02-2021 05:09PM

Reposting as made a small error when adding them up there.

It's actually

Monday to Saturday last week - 5605 swabs
Monday to Saturday this week - 4851 swabs

stephenjmcd · 20-02-2021 05:10PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

28% lower. A good week!

Skipped a day there by mistake when adding them deleted post

igCorcaigh · 20-02-2021 05:12PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Possibly end of life scenario?

Didn't apply to anyone else, did it?
(honest question)

Ficheall · 20-02-2021 05:13PM

Benimar wrote: »

Those numbers are incorrect. Its 5,498 last week v 4,851 this week (he didn't include todays swabs). Its 11.8% lower.

And is it ~8.5% fewer tests conducted? Slowly, slowly, but progress..

Icantthinkof1 · 20-02-2021 05:13PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Didn't apply to anyone else, did it?
(honest question)

People have been allowed into hospitals to say goodbye to their dying loved ones

igCorcaigh · 20-02-2021 05:14PM

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

People have been allowed into hospitals to say goodbye to their dying loved ones

Thanks. I didn't know that.
Good.

iamwhoiam · 20-02-2021 05:14PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Didn't apply to anyone else, did it?
(honest question)

Yea it did . Two people I know were allowed in to visit a dying relative . Full PPE and they could be in his room with him thankfully

Jim_Hodge · 20-02-2021 05:15PM

UrbanFret wrote: »

supermarkets, carparks of supermarkets seem a great place for a natter. parks , walks, theres even a walk beside me which is not completed or hasnt been officialy opened yet. there was that many people using it they've had to mound up the soil at the entrance and put up signage in an attempt to stop people acessing it.
The roads are thick with cars. 5km restriction is purely cosmetic.

Must be particular places. Supermarket here was nearly empty. We shopped and had no queue at the checkout. The carpark wasn't 15% full. Plenty are walking around here but the vast majority are within their 5km. I've seem a few people stop to talk but they all were masked and kept their distance. If people are keeping near to home you would expect a bit of a gathering in local parks.

stephenjmcd · 20-02-2021 05:15PM

Benimar wrote: »

Those numbers are incorrect. Its 5,498 last week v 4,851 this week (he didn't include todays swabs). Its 11.8% lower.

I miss added in the original post, deleted and corrected but I've 5605 for the week before unless that's wrong?
4851 for this week alright

Oranage2 · 20-02-2021 05:17PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I miss added but I've 5605 for the week before unless that's wrong?

You tried to skewer the figures and failed.

igCorcaigh · 20-02-2021 05:18PM

People with underlying health issues moved up the list for vaccination. Rte.

I thought that already been the case.

So who gets pushed down?

stephenjmcd · 20-02-2021 05:19PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

You tried to skewer the figures and failed.

Eh no, I literally forgot to hit plus on the calculator for today, deleted the post about a minute later btw when I noticed the error.

Nice try at trolling though

MerlinSouthDub · 20-02-2021 05:20PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

People with underlying health issues moved up the list for vaccination. Rte.

That's really good news for the people involved. It also might be the thing that makes the biggest difference to hospitalisation rates in the coming months.

Van.Bosch · 20-02-2021 05:20PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

You tried to skewer the figures and failed.

You reckon? Why would someone want to skew figures on a discussion forum? More likely a mistake by someone trying to outline facts.

igCorcaigh · 20-02-2021 05:21PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

That's really good news for the people involved. It also might be the thing that makes the biggest difference to hospitalisation rates in the coming months.

Who gets deprioritised though?
(obviously, those without underlying issues, but why now?)

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